29 Dec 2017 15:34:34
I was one of the fans who really wanted stability to stick with a manager, give them plenty of time to get a decent backroom staff together and to try and implement a way of playing that can work through from the youngsters to the first team. I am however struggling to see enough positives from MW - the way he plays should be worked on through the academy and I'm sure we would see results in the coming years here comes the problem!

I cannot think of any manager who has ever been successful who hasn't played to his players or collective groups strengths, the level of success doesn't matter - it could be winning the champions league, a cup or winning a relegation battle. It looks to me that we are playing to our weaknesses in an attempt to play in a way that some of our players just cannot do.

We do have some good players and if they are encouraged to play to their strengths rather than their weaknesses we could easily have an extra 6-10 points this season. Come on breadman - play to our strengths and we will all support you, keep messing and it's a downwards spiral and more fans will get on your back.


1.) 29 Dec 2017
29 Dec 2017 17:05:20
But he’s not got a full squad capable of playing the football he wants. He’s not moaned about the squad that he has but it’s certainly obvious he feels he needs more of a certain type of player.

You’re right, we need stability but more importantly, and possibly above other things - we need patience and belief. No one is saying, “let’s see how this works over the next 5 years” - it’s a case of us understanding that right now, we are simply a mid table team trying to improve.

That improvement comes from a structure, a philosophy and a recruitment plan which are all on the same page.

Give this man another season and if it’s not working we look at our options. I’d also make a case for us being unable to attract top, top managers if we continue this revolving door policy.


2.) 29 Dec 2017
29 Dec 2017 18:43:56
2 tone your bang on regarding players playing to strengths.Joe Worrall is a good example.When he keeps it simple he looks class but sometimes I feel he takes risks with the ball when it's just not necessary and seems out of character.I do have to give MW credit for giving some of these young men a chance.Past managers have been guilty of having a closed door policy on young players development.


3.) 29 Dec 2017
29 Dec 2017 19:18:51
Ldn red - he’ll never have a full squad capable of playing the way he wants, that’s a completely different level to where we are and would cost millions!! If he isn’t careful he will ruin some of our ‘better’ players as they will forget what they are actually good at. I want to back him and give him a few years but I do want to see steady signs of improvement


4.) 29 Dec 2017
29 Dec 2017 19:56:43
I’m not saying you’re wrong - but what I will point to is that in past/current seasons, teams which play a very similar style to us have competed at the top end or been promoted without spending millions.

Teams like: Sheffield United, Reading, Fulham, Bournemouth, Watford and Swansea.

MW won’t be looking to try and spend millions, he’ll be selecting players which fit his style.


5.) 29 Dec 2017
29 Dec 2017 21:51:21
Bang on 2tone. Best post on here for ages


6.) 29 Dec 2017
29 Dec 2017 21:53:35
Another season... You really think so?
Please lnd red enlighten us to why you think he should be given another season?
You state you want to sit down all of whom disagree with the way of the breadman... Again please enlighten us? Myself like many feel exactly like 2tone.

The inability to address many shortcomings is not how structure is built.
Structure comes from the chairman down to the staff who steward each week.
There seems to be a piece missing where Warburton is concerned his way of tactics, leaving players out in the cold and playing out position isn't a structured formula.
Yes structure takes time I agree but how much time is required.... 2,3,4 seasons?
So lnd red please with your infinite wisdom and inside knowledge tell us why Mr. Warburton is the messiah?


7.) 29 Dec 2017
29 Dec 2017 23:11:04
I’m not one for enlightenment, I have an opinion, just like everyone here.

There’s certainly negatives with some of MW’s decisions, not all I’ve agreed with. But why kick us when we’re down though? Why get rid of the manager so quickly and start from scratch - AGAIN.

I feel it boils down to this. We have a young squad incapable of playing MW’s tactics on a regular basis and some fan favourites not getting as much game time as people would like. I’d be the first to say that we should’ve signed a CB and a GK in the summer, I’d like to think we tried (Hector & Federici) at least! The defence is certainly our weak point and it’s of course a shortcoming thay it wasn’t fixed back then.

The team he has now isn’t even his yet. There’s plenty of players in there which don’t suit the way Warburton wants to play which I think is largely why some players are being played out of position or not at all (Vellios). I personally feel we need to trust in a philosophy/manager and buy players which are suited to that style. It’s the only way we can make a real success of this - not by bringing in someone new and having them reshape the squad their way.

If we’ve learnt anything over the past few years, it’s that changing manager takes us at least 8months to reset. It’s been the thing which has largely held us back in recent years.

What we have now (I think), is a manager who wants to promote from within, has a clear idea of how he wants us to play and is willing to build a squad capable of doing that in his style. It doesn’t just happen in 1 window (incredibly rarely!).

Worth noting quickly - if we lose MW, we also lose our DoF, Frank McParland. Not something I’d want to do in a hurry.

Warburton aside for a minute - and remembering last season, where do people feel would be an acceptable place for us to finish based on our squad. Top half would be a lot of progress in my book.

If we can manage our expectations and take the lows with the highs, I think we’ll all be better for it.


8.) 30 Dec 2017
30 Dec 2017 09:38:31
LDN Red

I agree with what you are trying to get across, but i feel 2 things are getting on most people's nerves are, we let the opposition score too easily, and there has been little sign of it being sorted, and inspite all of our possession, and odd patches of really good football the opposition mostly out play us.

It is a slow process, and we should try to be more positive, and hope for the best, but with each loss it gets harder.


9.) 30 Dec 2017
30 Dec 2017 10:25:00
With you there 100%. Who here could say watching us lose is much fun?! I was at the Wednesday game and felt for much of the match we were actually miles better than them. 3 one on ones and a strong penalty shout - we were unfortunate not to go in 3-1 up at half time.

I digress.

The defence is a cause for concern and a large one at that. Most attacking possession based sides do leave themselves open at the back. We do need to be more solid but I’d wager that this is a personnel issue more than anything else.

Look at Huddersfield’s style of play (Champ and Prem), they look to out score you rather than play bland, slow football where you’d be lucky to see us score a goal. Progress is slow but my god, weren’t we a lot worse before?

The statement from the new owners and in particular the new chairman stated they wanted stability. This comes from trust and again, managing our own expectations.