11 Sep 2018 11:16:14
Having read the hysterical opinions on the team and manager I offer some balance and reality to life at the City Ground since EM's conditional deal to purchase the club in 2016.

We are proud of our history but burdened by our 2 stars which represents the benchmark for players and managers.

We had good times BC and very few AD. Therein lies the problem of over expectation for many fans in the stands?

Be in no doubt how close to we were to going under Fantasy Fawaz and his casino football. Purchased a club on the up under SOD. Replaced with a series of "trophy" managers until the cash ran out. Hired DF for the fire sale prior to bailing out. "The new investment sought" funded by EM to see the season out. An appointee manager PM, the sale of OB to fund the season. Last spin by FF to sell to the Yanks before EM called in the debt.

MW / FMcP appointed to save the season and the deal. Job done. Given a chance to rebuild summer 2017. The youth and up and coming buying strategy clearly out of step with other teams and heading us down. Appointment of AK with a proven track record of promotion was a measured appointment in a changing football market saved the season.

The new TV deal that followed blew Championship promotion budgets out of the water. Wolves set the money benchmark for recruitment. Cardiff the experienced organised team professional route to success. Fulham put a team together over 2 seasons with the same proven manager.

This is the current reality in a sea change in football finances and EM/ AK adjusting strategy to compete after failed inherited talent and initial transfer strategy.

So before condemning our current manager and recruitment consider the strategies and ingredients of the three promoted teams Budget. Experience and Time.

EM has provided the budget and exciting talent as Wolves. Invested in experience and team building as Cardiff. Appointed a proven manager in AK to blend the team with a mix of youth and experience as Fulham.

Yet despite the fact that EM/ AK's strategy combines all the ingredients of last seasons promoted teams a certain minority want to press the historic default fire button after only 6 league games. REALLY?

There has been a running commentary on selection tactics and the team's short comings and player turnover. In fact recruitment has reflected the position AK found the club in Jan 2018 and building again in the last window.

Jan 2018 signings urgently recruited quality experienced players to survive, notwithstanding some may not be first choice for a promotion challenge. Needs must at the time. Summer 2018 having given youth and existing players a chance rang further changes to build a stronger squad albeit not all targets were secured during the window.

In 6 league games weaknesses are highlighted in certain positions and balance of the squad. Yet the hysteria returns even though fans criticism are addressed with signings Hefele, Janko, Yacob, Tachtsidis, (Ansarifard/ Sako) . All upgrades on the departed.

Clear evidence that EM/ AK are determined to have a competitive squad over the season. There is no justification for certain fans not giving the manager the same courtesy and respect as Jokanovic in backing him over a season to get us into playoff contention even if like Fulham after finishing 18th it takes two seasons to get promoted!

This is the reality and evidence of where we are as a club and what it takes to get promoted. We now have all the ingredients to follow those promoted teams. A change of manager in the short term would be certain failure having only just got the plan in place.

By all means judge AK on his future results over a season. However, hanging him over what he has walked into, your 2star expectations and 6 games shaping his team is just plain stupid when the approach applied by the promoted teams is reflected in our squad and manager.

AK now has the tools and the track record to use them well so everyone needs to stop being so short sighted and back him to succeed over the season!


1.) 11 Sep 2018
11 Sep 2018 11:34:31
That's what I call a severe case of krankiness.
Thought you said beware of Greeks bearing gifts??emmπŸ€”πŸ€”πŸ€”


2.) 11 Sep 2018
11 Sep 2018 11:40:59
Redinexile Aitor since joining us has been like a scene out of a film called Trading Places.

Once it was realised it was a disaster the orders were to : Buy, buy, buy, buy, come on buy, buy, and buy some more.

It is a scatter gun approach buy enough and hope the job gets done.
Only good results will give Aitor the time he needs.


3.) 11 Sep 2018
11 Sep 2018 11:46:07
AndI thought war and peace took some getting through


4.) 11 Sep 2018
11 Sep 2018 11:59:36
πŸ™„πŸ˜΄πŸ˜΄πŸ˜΄ That was about exciting as watching forest under karanka red 😁


5.) 11 Sep 2018
11 Sep 2018 12:08:13
That's your dinner break gone skeggs ? Bet you never got chance to read the paper?🀣🀣🀣🀣🀣


6.) 11 Sep 2018
11 Sep 2018 12:16:19
Redinexile where do you get this ludicrous notion that fans are expecting another clough type era??most fans I speak to these days only expect more disappointment so I will ask you again do you get to many matches? because you seem out of touch to me


7.) 11 Sep 2018
11 Sep 2018 12:17:26
Ff that post from red should of come with a government health warningπŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ€―πŸ€―πŸ€―πŸ€―


8.) 11 Sep 2018
11 Sep 2018 12:18:44
Red I think you are Senor Karanaka is disguise.


9.) 11 Sep 2018
11 Sep 2018 12:22:34
Found it a bit early for a bedtime story.🀩🀩🀩😭😭😭😭


10.) 11 Sep 2018
11 Sep 2018 12:51:23
Redinexile oh and by the way i do not consider those 2 stars a burden I watched them won and was never more proud to be a forest fan ,and still am and don’t need someone like you telling me how to support my club, I believe you are totally out of touch with rank and file forest fans who in the main just want us to be competitive and decent to watch


11.) 11 Sep 2018
11 Sep 2018 13:04:25
Bang on Stevie f.


12.) 11 Sep 2018
11 Sep 2018 13:37:25
I have great memories before bc as Well 66 to 67 and Ian storey Moore running defences ragged for a few seasons,Duncan McKenzie after that,wearnt all bad.
After bc frank Clark and Stan collymore,Dave Bassett and van hoojdonk,so much better than anything I'm watching lately.
Just saying.


13.) 11 Sep 2018
11 Sep 2018 13:56:01
79 reading reds post was like sitting in a traffic jam for 5 hours

😁


14.) 11 Sep 2018
11 Sep 2018 14:20:50
Ff779 that’s another thing that bugs me people carry on like forest didn’t exist before Brian we were a fixture in the top flight TIL relegated in 72 as you know nearly winning the double in 67 ,so our so called sense of top flight entitlement doesn’t just come from the clough era ,


15.) 11 Sep 2018
11 Sep 2018 14:15:58
2 Star expectations from a 1 Star team....red that must of been a waste of an hour of your life writing that yawn boring postπŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚


16.) 11 Sep 2018
11 Sep 2018 14:21:34
Well that flushed out the vocal minority!

The bottom line is based on the actual sequence of events which you all choose to ignore you are wanting to sack a manager based on 6 league games!

28,000 fans seem to think the football is competitive and decent to watch this season, so what is the problem after only 6 games? Are these fans out of touch?

Whether Karanka turns out to be good or bad for Forest in implementing the recruitment plan we will never get anywhere above mid table sacking manager during the season.

So please chill, sit back and enjoy the excellent value of your Β£18/20 season seats and let AK get on with the job in hand. At least if you do not like one player we actually have a couple in each position that might suit you all? πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚


17.) 11 Sep 2018
11 Sep 2018 14:34:07
I was bought up the forest way to play attacking entertaining football and win or lose as long as I saw the effort put in by the players and management then I was happy.
I'd just be happy now to have a manager that went out and took the game to the opposition instead of worrying about the opposition.
Hated it when megson was here and we now have all the hallmarks of a repeat,unless he changes his ways.


18.) 11 Sep 2018
11 Sep 2018 15:03:52
The problem is red we and every other forest fan can see and like the right players and the man who gets paid to pick the players hasn't got a clue and now he's signed 3 more players to replace who lol he doesn't know is best 11 maybe another 30 signings and 10 years in charge he might work it out and I might win the jackpot on the euros get rid πŸš–


19.) 11 Sep 2018
11 Sep 2018 15:05:35
Redinexile Just because We that make up that 28,000 go to the games it does not mean we think the team is competitive and decent to watch.

It means we are PROUD NOTTINGHAM FOREST FANS and can afford the travel money as well as the cost of the TICKET / SEASON CARD.

People want Aitor to find his best 11 and play them, if he will not do that then he must go.


20.) 11 Sep 2018
11 Sep 2018 15:36:20
nothing will suit this little lot red and have you noticed its the same lot that start having a go as soon as a positive post gets put up. just scroll back up it stands out a mile. ( all giving themselves a little thumbs up ).


21.) 11 Sep 2018
11 Sep 2018 15:37:08
There is no 28k.
Even when the crowd is given as 27k there are empty seats everywhere.
That's because of cheap cards to young ones and kids that hardly go.
Got an empty seat next to me and when I enquired about it for a friend they say it's sold,but no one has sat in so far this season.
We have a fan base of around 20k.


22.) 11 Sep 2018
11 Sep 2018 15:53:45
ff799 he s read your posts on here and gone and sat next to victor meldrew instead


23.) 11 Sep 2018
11 Sep 2018 16:04:15
Nothing positive about reds post pork chop.
More like riddles and bs.


24.) 11 Sep 2018
11 Sep 2018 16:11:38
Why is Victor in exile as well?πŸ€”


25.) 11 Sep 2018
11 Sep 2018 16:39:38
ye ff799 first brentford got rid then rangers got rid and finally us.


26.) 11 Sep 2018
11 Sep 2018 16:46:32
Chopsy never in 1 post have I asked for this manager to be sacked I want him to succeed I’ a forest fan for god sake , but redinexile posts take happy clapping to a whole new level,plus he insults the intelligence of some on here who travel all over the country to watch them when i’m not sure he does


27.) 11 Sep 2018
11 Sep 2018 17:38:09
Good old warbo chopsy statistics at forest show he was a lot better manager than krankie with a lot less money lol πŸ˜‚ πŸš–


28.) 11 Sep 2018
11 Sep 2018 18:10:03
skegjay he got brentford in the top six but they got rid ( stats ) ??????. he got rangers promoted and they got rid of him and even the fans didn't want him and you can't get a much bigger fan base than that in the uk ( stats ) ??????. and now he s trying to mend his mates telly i don't expect you to have the stats for that but have ya got a manual for a matsui


29.) 11 Sep 2018
11 Sep 2018 18:51:21
Redinexile i've been going to forest all my life through thick and thin prices of tickets don’t matter I still go , do you?


30.) 12 Sep 2018
12 Sep 2018 00:01:31
The purpose of my post was to get you to look at the bigger picture instead of a match by match basis as football success is delivered over 46 games. Clearly very few of you can remember such a season under one manager?

Heyho carry on chaps as your Shepherd will round up the lost sheep into the reality pen!

Stevie Yes I do watch my team more away than home due to geography and also other teams. This gives a much better perspective of our standing in the League and why I am bemused by those who just do not see the bigger picture of where we are going as a club!

AK may not be the long term answer but really guys you do need to stop chopping managers off at the knees before they get their feet under the table?

Onward and Upward


31.) 12 Sep 2018
12 Sep 2018 00:02:55
Ff799
So are you claiming 8000 followers for your Foremoaning Group based on your maths?
There is a reason the seat next to you is empty? You have frightened off the lady that purchased it! 😲
The good news is that the seat will remain empty as a statement to equality and diversity and a reminder to be more open minded and embracing of your fellow fans. 🀒 😍
Onward and Upward