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19 Aug 2015 13:21:43
Nixon indicating that the Dutch lad linked recently has in fact been over to forest but gone quiet now. Perhaps 1978 wasn't wrong at all, but the cleaner just got a bit over excited saying the deal was done :-)

Keeno

1.) 19 Aug 2015 14:07:00
I only pass on what I am told by someone at the club who works with the team on a daily basis and most of the time He is right,
Unlike others who come on and spout rubbish and things they have in their heads.
I also said on Saturday that the player DF wanted was Jukervitch and nobody believed that either


2.) 19 Aug 2015 14:13:41
Keeno

If the Dutch lad is any good I would be pleased if he came to Forest, but is it not Nixon who said Frey had come to Forest to complete his transfer, look what happened to that.

There is nothing wrong to say we are interested in someone, it is another thing to suggest things will be completed in a day or three.


3.) 19 Aug 2015 15:21:44
Dare2River
Is that a large slice of Humble pie you are choking on /


4.) 19 Aug 2015 15:24:45
The Dutch Lad - Ebecilio - was at the City Ground and spotted by a number of people, it was also in the national press that he'd held talks with Forest. I don't think it was ever rubbish.


5.) 19 Aug 2015 15:37:10
1978

We actually agree on something, some people post rumours that are nothing more than what they have made up themselves, or as someone else mentioned their source is the bird site, but they make out they know some ex player or just someone in the know.

If you really do have someone in the know, good for you, but you should be careful posting their exact words as the Hamer, and Frey deals are fine examples of how things can fall apart so easily.


6.) 19 Aug 2015 16:03:06
1978

I'm sorry I'm not able to eat humble pie as I'm vegan. If you had read my posts taking the p out of you it was based on you stating there should be an announcement by Monday, yet on Tuesday no hint of an announcement.


7.) 19 Aug 2015 16:14:40
Dare2River
You should read what I said
"I was told by a reliable source"
If it didn't happen it didn't happen but the post was from a reliable source and I only quoted what He said.
There are lots of transfers breaking down for whatever reason
most of which we will never know why and most of what DF spouts in the media can't be believed. He is hardly going to come out and tell us we have no money and Fawaz can't pay the bills is He


 

 

05 Jul 2015 12:00:09
Alan Nixon is stating that we are looking to sign Ryan Taylor after his Newcastle release!
There'll be a few posters on here choking on their Sunday dinners hearing this, with his recent injury problems

Keeno

1.) 05 Jul 2015 12:40:14
Par for the course.


2.) 05 Jul 2015 22:21:09
Averaged 14 games a season over the last 10 years! he's made up entirely of metal & pins.

Think we need a different approach to this recruitment drive.


3.) 06 Jul 2015 03:59:36
Yep, I agree on this one. On his day and fully fit he is a very good champ player but a risk too far imo


4.) 06 Jul 2015 10:08:24
Surely given Cjays expert analysis of Mr Taylor's medical condition signing him is a must as he would be a " magnet" to attract other signings to add more "steel" into our side ?


5.) 06 Jul 2015 21:21:44
Easy one to solve ish. get him in on a 'pay as you play' deal only but then again on the other hand he would take up one of the 24 (?) slots?


 

 

10 Mar 2015 09:08:30
As daft as this sounds the sun (Alan Nixon) reporting that we are trying to sign Jordan Rhodes on loan.
Apparently some clever ploy to skirt FFP and with an agreed deal and payments if we go up.
Can't see any remote truth in it but just thought i'd post it

Keeno

1.) 10 Mar 2015 09:31:18
If it was possible to pay loan fee plus wages then would believable but under the embargo and only able to offer 10000 of his wages its likely never going to happen


2.) 10 Mar 2015 14:22:47
right let's put this to bed, we have been linked to rhodes for almost 2 yrs, he was never oming to forest and i doubt he ever will !!!


3.) 10 Mar 2015 16:11:15
The sheep are after him . Let's hope he doesn't want to go there.


 

 

08 Feb 2015 21:15:06
Journo's reporting that we are in for Nick Powell from utd.
Would prefer an out and out centre forward but highly rated by all accounts and could sit off britt up top

Keeno

1.) Britt needs someone to sit off himself he,s a preditor not a target man , needs a big man to feed off ,then goals galore!

CARLO


2.) 08 Feb 2015 23:01:04
I thought we were on a transfer embargo, or has Fawaz now paid up?


 

 

03 Feb 2015 22:56:01
The club are apparently now under a second embargo following non payment to Peterborough. The new embargo prevents any loans being bought in as well!!
Just when u thought it couldn't get any worse!! :-)

Keeno

1.) Papers also say if we pay 1.5 mil before the emergency loan window reopens next week then the week full embargo will be lifted


2.) 04 Feb 2015 08:48:13
We have had this before, it seems to be the clubs standard practice to pay monies owed when it suits them, rather than when due.

It's been reported 3 or 4 times before that this has happened. The club will probably make the payment the day before we want to make a loan signing.

A poor way to run a business but not something that I can see changing, unless more serious sanctions are forthcoming.


 

 

 

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29 Feb 2016 21:33:27
Given the new rules we will be out of embargo in the summer. However although our losses will be significantly better it will still probably be the best part of a third of the allowed loses over the 3 years. Therefore what do we all think around recruitment strategy this summer. I certainly don't think that we can afford to go back to our spending of old or even close to it. It will be embargo time again in two years.
What I would like to see is us taking a gamble on some lower league players showing a lot of potential and which would financially be more viable. I think the foreign options should also be targeted as we seem to already have a half decent network already out there.
If DF is still in post its going to be a decent rebuilding job required I think so we need to be cracking on early doors.

Keeno

 

 

17 Feb 2016 11:03:26
Fawaz announcing that cohen has signed a new deal with the club. Interesting one after only a few games back and I'd be interested to see the specifics.
Pleased for him though. Without doubt if he can get back to anywhere near his best he gets in my 11, in central midfield. We desperately lack some energy and a box to box midfielder.

Keeno

1.) 17 Feb 2016 11:48:42
Keeno

If Cohen can stay fit he will be clearly be a asset, in my opinion box to box midfielders are ten a penny therefore i'm sure we could get someone in in the summer to fill that role who would cost far less.

So by giving Cohen another contract i sincerely hope he does not get used in the box to box midfield role.


2.) 17 Feb 2016 12:41:58
Let's just hope he stays fit. For me a brave move by fawaz to say cc hasn't had much game time since his injury.


3.) 17 Feb 2016 13:06:56
They are clearly not ten a penny at our club tomorrow! Having an engine in the middle is absolutely vital to having a more attacking side, allowing more players to get forward with that cover provided. At present none of our midfielders have it hence why we have two sitting deep most games who very rarely venture forward.
Cohen has that engine and also the quality to boot and would be an asset in the middle if fully fit.
I'm interested to know where u think he fits in.


4.) 17 Feb 2016 13:30:41
Keeno

I know some will say leftback, some may say defensive midfield, but i would have him as part of two sitting just behind a striker.


5.) 17 Feb 2016 13:44:33
An attacking midfielder?


6.) 17 Feb 2016 18:01:10
Giving Cohen another year on his contract now means the lad is entitled to a Testimonial next year which he thoroughly deserves.


7.) 17 Feb 2016 18:01:49
Interesting tomorrow. Never really thought of him as an attacking type midfielder. Just my opinion but that doesn't really play to his strengths.


8.) 17 Feb 2016 19:27:28
Keeno

Not afraid to get stuck in with a tackle, chasing lost causes, decent passer, decent crosser, and not easily brushed off the ball.

I could be wrong, but i think that would be ideal.


9.) 17 Feb 2016 20:21:30
Don't think he has the skill to beat a player or has the goals in him to play behind a striker that's just my opinion.


 

 

14 Feb 2016 09:47:27
One bad performance (shocking in fact) doesn't mean a dip in form. Hopefully the team bounces back from that game and gets some consistency in results.
For the last few years now our teams have just been hampered by inconsistency. We are either on great runs of form or on terrible runs. Right back to BD reign and that great run. Same with Pearce when he came in, did very well and went to rats and exactly the same with Dougies time so far.
We have Got to get some consistency into the team and hopefully we can do that by bouncing back and picking up a couple of wins in our next few games.

Keeno

1.) 14 Feb 2016 12:22:35
I think it's the ace mArksman we are short of keano.

We re not able to play badly and get something from the game which every successful teams need to do.

Didn't go yesterday but suspect we could have equalised well before their second with if we had a really consistent striker. Get back on terms with plenty of time to go and it changes everything, feel sure we'd be too six with the right man up front as I do feel we are now creating sufficient chances in games - probably have been since mid November.

We can't expect to never concede goals, we need enough goals of our own to overcome the teams who work out how to break us down, which some will manage more than others.


2.) 14 Feb 2016 13:03:18
Too much talk in the media this week about playoffs and the players start believing that teams like Huddersfield pose no problems. Oliveira should have scored 3 and that's where we fail. Just hope Britt recovers fully because he would have scored 2/ 3 chances.


3.) 14 Feb 2016 14:27:57
Keeno. Got to get some consistency into the team? Really? How about being consistently unbeaten for 13 league games!


4.) 14 Feb 2016 14:32:52
Is it me or doe's Nakki Wells terrorise us every time he plays!


5.) 14 Feb 2016 14:56:05
Read my post again IBM and think about what you're putting. College consistency I was referring to was about putting a strong run of results together as we have, but then undoing it by not winning again in 6, 7, 8 games etc. As has been indicative of our sides over several years now.
Do you want me to try and explain it a bit more?


6.) 14 Feb 2016 15:38:38
Yes please.


 

 

11 Feb 2016 20:20:39
I see that the Cardiff owner had written off a significant proportion of their debt which will allow them to come out from their embargo. I find it absolutely comical that the football league allow the scenario. Yes on one hand the debt has gone which is a massive plus for the club, but how on earth is that addressing the issues that got them there in the first place. Removing the embargo just allows those same old processes which are damaging the clubs to continue the following week.
And secondly how is simply allowing them to come out of the embargo genuine punishment? Once breached it should be a punishment handed down and that punishment sticks regardless of whether the debt is written off etc.
It is absolutely no deterrent to owners, who can just stick two fingers up at FFP and simply write the debt off when they need too and face no sanctions! It's a complete farce.
People may well say, well fawaz should have done this with our situation but I actually think this embargo has been a good thing for our club and given us a kick up the backside to somewhat get our house and finances in order. We have players committed and playing for the shirt now instead of money and we have a youth system that is very much flourishing.

Keeno

1.) 11 Feb 2016 20:35:10
I totally agree Keeno, I think QPR and a n other did similar by paying the fines but I also think it has made everyone at the club think long and hard about the business of running our club in a proper and fit manner, pulling everyone on board and all going in the same direction.


2.) 11 Feb 2016 20:36:17
It has been a good thing.

Many a poor player and manager has milked the forest udder.

It's been going on for years and needed to end.

We should no longer be seen as club who pay over the odds for anything.

Why? Because we're skint and have been for years.


3.) 11 Feb 2016 20:45:07
Totally agree keeno, its a disgrace how a few clubs/ owners have got out of embargoes and dealt with ffp but the fa or whoever governs it have allowed them to do it. However, we are coping well with the situation and hopefully will come out of it in a much better situation and a bright future.


4.) 11 Feb 2016 21:32:06
I think its a bit different to ourcsituation. I think we were given ample time to pay our debters and get our house in order. I think we were given enough time but just drifted from problem to problem. But i agree keano the ffp is unfair and not balanced. I can't see it remaining as force in general terms in the near future. Ultimateky vit has been the best thing for this club because going forward from now we will spend wisely and we are slowly getting our house in order!


5.) 11 Feb 2016 22:13:13
Agree Keeno but if fatwas had played are ffp rules off we would of all been happy and that's just the way it goes I definitely agree with it helping us as a team players playing for the team and not the money and bringing the youth through that wouldn't of been but let's hope that doesn't change when we are out of the ffp great season on a budget.


6.) 11 Feb 2016 22:48:23
The ffp rules only changed this year were you can loose up to 39 million over 3 years we are unlucky because we were are in an embargo under the old rules so we can't do it like them don't forget in June we will be out i think we have done amazing it as done us so mush good in so many ways.


7.) 11 Feb 2016 22:57:40
To be fair Skeg BD probably promised him promotion if backed.

He was probably able to put over a compelling and convincing case that the stumbling block was that final piece of backing.

The Shorey debacle was most likely rolled out, we were on fire until that point it would be easy to convince a naive fawaz thirsty for success that chucking cash around would take us to the next level.

Sadly it was au contraire!


8.) 12 Feb 2016 05:59:19
Perhaps Mr Fawaz cannot afford to pay off the debt. However I do not know how much it is.


9.) 12 Feb 2016 09:24:11
The FFP has very little to do with our situation.
We have been loosing a million pounds a month since the Clough days. Gross mismanagement has been the cause of our problems. paying too much money for players and letting their contracts run down and getting no transfer fees for them when they walk away, Commons, Wilson and Earnshaw are just three I can think of. Then we have had managers who have signed players that only wanted to play for money and not the badge, The owners have to take the blame for this as it's their money in the end. ND loved the club but had a set of clowns running the club and they did not have a care as long as they got paid, Fawaz I am sorry to say has No idea how to run the club and at some point He will have to stop putting in his millions per month to get results, I am not a lover of Freedman but have to admit He has done a good job with his recruitment of players and team commitment. The way it is we will need to sell a player per season to help balance the books.


10.) 12 Feb 2016 11:56:06
Of course FFP has a considerable amount to do with our situation 1978. If it wasn't for FFP we would still be doing what you say we've been doing for years and that is paying over the top for players, wasting money for the sake of it, still be in considerable debt and be full of players playing for money and not the shirt.
But because of FFP we have been forced to sort out the situation in terms of the finances at the club. This can only be a positive thing for the long term running. We have a youth system producing players as good as we've produced for years, our finances are under control to a greater extent and we have a crop of players playing for the shirt. All of these are things we have not had for some time and the main reason for that change in circumstances is FFP in my opinion.


11.) 12 Feb 2016 11:58:04
Fawaz promised BD champions league and told him to spend. BD said we'll do it on the cheap and wouldn't sign anyone.

Fawaz went out and did it for him.

Billy bottled it under the pressure of the money.


12.) 12 Feb 2016 13:41:07
My point to keano. Its funny how my hero pearce could not sort the defence but in comes DF a sriker and now we are really hard to break down. Funny old game. But ffp has stopped us dead in our tracks and we have had to re invent. Their is simply no easy way out. So really the five year plan started when DF took over.


13.) 12 Feb 2016 14:52:46
Should read my point too.


14.) 12 Feb 2016 15:12:42
Keeno you missed the point we have been loosing 15 million a year for at least 20 years FFP has been in place for 2/ 3 years.


15.) 12 Feb 2016 15:13:42
Rutland, I don't actually think it's DF that has sorted out the defence on the whole. I think that accolade should go to Paul Williams. Before he came in we were conceding left right and centre but since williams came in that has coincided with our defensive resurgence. I think a change in tactics from DF in terms of counter attack football and men behind the ball has certainly contributed to it, but the real credit in my opinion goes to williams.


16.) 12 Feb 2016 22:44:10
Agreed keeno but DF had the foresight to do this maybe in bringing in williams. DF is a young manager and learning his trade. It just seems at the moment that against a stiff tide freedman keeps doing the right thing.!


17.) 12 Feb 2016 19:29:14
I'm not missing the point 1978. What I'm saying is that we would still be losing that amount of money per year if FFP hadn't come in. Regardless of how long it's been in. So to say FFP has not had an impact or been a reason for our current circs is a contradiction in your post. It's not a cause of the debt granted, but it's certainly a massive reflection of the condition of the club at present.


 

 

26 Jan 2016 11:47:58
There is some serious money being spent in the championship at the moment which is creating a massive gulf between several at the top end and the bottom.
The likes of derbys spending on signings must be somewhere upwards of 25 million and when u think of the wages of some of them it's pretty astonishing for a champ club. Boro as well. Ramirez from Southampton coming in who's on mega money at the Saints. Add that to the fees they have payed over the last few seasons for players in the tens of millions.
Wednesday too. Spent big in the summer, just signed hopper who must have been up to 5 and now looking at another 6 odd on Alan judge! And I won't even go into QPR. It just shows that the league is becoming more and more like the premier league in terms of spending power of certain clubs and will become harder and harder to get out of.
Surely the whole point of FFP should be to address this type of issue, rather than what it currently focuses on? So anyway the point of my long winded post is this. FFP looks set to stay but on what basis would people like to see it implemented. Should it be on the current system or should they adopt an apparent fairer system. Such as for example clubs have a maximum that they can be spent every season on transfers and then it must be frees or loans etc if they hit that ceiling. or something like the rugby super league where by there is a wage cap for the entire squad and they decide how to spend it etc etc etc?

Keeno

{Ed001's Note - Boro are only contributing towards Ramirez's wages, not paying them all.}


1.) 26 Jan 2016 13:14:27
Maybe so but I don't imagine they will be contributing a minimal sum will they and he is probably on 40 grand a week plus. It emphasises a wider point.


2.) 26 Jan 2016 16:06:53
Keeno
Why are you worried? Throwing pots of money at it does not bring success as we know full well. We are ahead of the curve for once as the mega cash is having a negative impact on players commitment. Just ask Chelsea Man U / City?


3.) 26 Jan 2016 17:45:20
I'm not worried at all mate. I was making an observation and the fact Derby have just chucked another few million quid today on a left back further emphasises that. I was simply attempting to get people's thoughts on FFP and any other ways people think it could/ should work.


4.) 26 Jan 2016 19:12:46
Keeno

I think a limit should be set as to what a club can spend each year, then anything above that has to be the owners debt and not the clubs, so should the owner leave they do not get anything more than the set limit back over the course of time.


 

 

 

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11 Mar 2016 13:45:57
Generally Older players with not many options on the table take shorter contracts and reduced wages tomorrow. 'He'd rather retire' - U don't half write some rubbish sometimes.

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10 Mar 2016 22:03:46
On a reduced contract he is an excellent championship back up defender.

Keeno

 

 

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29 Feb 2016 08:25:06
We got Chris Cohen on the wing red! Inspired positional selection!

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24 Feb 2016 22:01:13
I fully agree I have watched this midfield three of Gardner, tesche and Vaughan numerous times now and how on earth Cohen is not getting a game is simply beyond me. There is no energy or drive in there at the moment and it is certainly something Cohen would bring.

Keeno

 

 

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20 Feb 2016 20:46:38
Fox has a year and a half left.

Keeno

 

 

 

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14 Mar 2016 10:10:08
Don't dosagree with a Lou of the post Rutland and whilst I think DF did a reasonable job, I definitely don't think he ever got the best out of the group of players he had there.

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14 Mar 2016 00:55:46
I don't take back all I said about 5th-8th at all, but the sentiment of the post is good and at least it's an opinion he has held for some time and been consistent with. I'm not quite as negative around the owner but even the most staunch fawaz supporter has to look at things and say that the only constant in every single negative over the last few years has been him. I think the future is very uncertain unfortunately.

Keeno

{Ed003's Note - will you get over friggin 'negative' it's an opinion whether it's positive or negative - it's like forest fans are determined by negative - ffs I'd ban the word tbh!! just say what you friggin think(within reason ;) }


 

 

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12 Mar 2016 23:39:26
Fully agree. No stick whatsoever for being behind the team. Unfortunately at the moment fans are polarised by our current manager and I can kind of see both arguments. The unfortunate thing is that I can very much see DF being in charge next season, but getting the sack after about ten games when we aren't performing and he doesn't have the injuries and FFP argument anymore. And back to square one we will go.
Pessimistic I know but that's my early doors prediction.

Keeno

 

 

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12 Mar 2016 23:39:26
Fully agree. No stick whatsoever for being behind the team. Unfortunately at the moment fans are polarised by our current manager and I can kind of see both arguments. The unfortunate thing is that I can very much see DF being in charge next season, but getting the sack after about ten games when we aren't performing and he doesn't have the injuries and FFP argument anymore. And back to square one we will go.
Pessimistic I know but that's my early doors prediction.

Keeno

 

 

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12 Mar 2016 19:59:41
Absolutely johnny. I appreciate DF keeps going on about attacking more but u can only work with the players available for selection. Against a good Wednesday team we should have been compact and tried to break when the opportunity arose. Bannan and forestieri are too good to give space to like that and they tore us to pieces.

Keeno