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17 Aug 2018 22:07:44
We should not be loaning brereton he should be our 3rd choice striker in front of Murphy. He should get plenty of game time coming off bench starting off games. The lads only going to get better. He's only 19 years old.
Playing in his favoured position with the better players we have this season will do him loads more good.
And his value will ticket in today's crazy market
Keep hold of him.

Red always

1.) 18 Aug 2018 07:23:59
Brereton and Murphy are different strikers and fit different tactics.if you want to play away with a lone striker to win balls in the air Murphy is First choice and brereton third maybe 4th if you include Soudani.if you want a goal scorer and your going to play football and want to bring the midfielders into play Grabban is 1st choice and brereton is second.maybe even 3rd if ya want to put Soudani in not saying get rid but brereton and Murphy play different not saying get rid but he needs to wait and take his chance when it comes or decide to go out on loan until jan.
He played last season and he also went to an england tournament so maybe he’s being looked after properly rather than burning him out.the comp didn't finish till end of July.

2.) 18 Aug 2018 09:03:24
It comes down to how badly the club need the money to balance the books. How do we know that Forests plan was always going to be offloading a youngster or two to balance the books after the summers spending. For me, 8m for Brereton presents good money. Whether he should be getting game time or not is another story but the fact is he isn't, AK sees him as 4th striker right now.

3.) 18 Aug 2018 11:11:10
It's obviously not down to money as it's now a loan window?

4.) 18 Aug 2018 11:35:04
Perks you literally sent that post ONE second too early!

5.) 19 Aug 2018 09:35:17
I wouldn't be surprised to see BB go and another striker come in on loan.



16 Aug 2018 15:06:37
Unless we are bringing in another forward of prem quality. We should not be letting brereton even go out on loan.
He should be ahead of Murphy every week.
Murphy Is past it and we should be developing the likes of brereton and worrell not loaning or selling them.

Red always

1.) 16 Aug 2018 17:29:56
I think they would both benefit from loans if they are getting game time but I wouldn't like to see them sold. Both could have big futures ahead of them. Lascelles was ripped apart on here and nobody was bothered when he went to Newcastle. Now he is on the fringe of the England squad and worth 30 mill.

2.) 16 Aug 2018 18:16:41
Nobody was bothered when he went to Newcastle? Didn’t we get a pretty good deal and a loan back for the season? Nobody will moan when we do well out of a deal which to be fair at that time we really needed

3.) 16 Aug 2018 18:59:17
I agree with everything you are saying 2tone. What I would say is that we are now in a better situation than back then. We are not under pressure to sell to make ends meet and that gives us more bargaining power.I personally wouldn't like to sell either player sold just yet. In an ideal world we should encourage them to develop as players and increase their potential selling price of that were to transpire.

4.) 16 Aug 2018 19:53:49
Brereton is 19 and Worrall is 21 and they have played 53 and 65 senior matches each in struggling teams and are still learning their trade despite winning honours and trophies with England. They are our future as were Lascelles and Darlow who were sold in a fire sale.

Neither are going to be the stand out performers this season to get us our target of promotion but need to develop their game playing week in week out and would benefit from a loan deal. Under no circumstances should they be sold as they will be regulars next year in the Championship or given the chance if we go up where they will have more time to play and improve.

If you want an example of allowing a player to develop then it's Jack Grealish arguably the Championship's best young prospect. He is 22 but now has 137 senior games (100 in the Championship) under his belt, having had a loan season at Notts. Now worth £30m and would have been at Spurs if the builders had finished on time.

The smart business is to get them playing a full season on loan to develop them and their value then loan a Premiership striker to complete our Championship squad?

5.) 16 Aug 2018 20:54:47
Cash in and get a striker that can actually score goals now. 20m for Brereton in 3 years time or 180m for getting promoted to the Prem come what may?

6.) 17 Aug 2018 02:20:02
Cash in now?the window is closed !

7.) 17 Aug 2018 20:21:17
I would loan him out get game time get used to scoring he didn't get many last season yes he played out of position a few times but look at grant 19 last season for Notts already scoring so do bb the world of good game



13 Aug 2018 15:05:28
I'd change majority of players tomorrow
But I'd still play grabbon upfront with brereton he needs to get off mark for confidence
Don't know why some are slating him.
He's scored goals wherever he's played.
But being a loan striker is hard for any forward. Only forward that springs to mind could do it was collymore. But he had everything.
Karanka needs to experiment with 2 upfront
Maybe 3 at back 5 across middle.

Red always

1.) 13 Aug 2018 16:09:11
Grabban isn't on loan

2.) 13 Aug 2018 16:19:34
Lone lol

3.) 13 Aug 2018 16:49:00
Every time Grabban fails to score I blame Murphy. :)

4.) 13 Aug 2018 17:38:38
If he was to play 2 upfront it would be grabbon and soudini

5.) 13 Aug 2018 19:52:04
I'd drop grabban and play soudani

6.) 13 Aug 2018 20:00:00
XI for Bury.


7.) 14 Aug 2018 00:32:34
Hefela will start

8.) 14 Aug 2018 01:59:31
I would play soudani behind grabban and leave carvalho out and play cash and goncalves and maybe watson and Yates in the middle of the park. Think geddy and colback need a well earned rest

9.) 14 Aug 2018 10:36:46
The boss has said he wants to give every player a game so he won't play Grabban who has games under his belt.

I think if Dawson isn't going to start Saturday the might play three at the back to give all three centre backs a run out. If they don't play three at the back then he will play everyone who has not had a start.

Byram, Hefela, Worrall, Robinson
Bridcutt, Yates
Soudani, Concalves, Appiah/Cash?

You can mix and match the front four/5

10.) 14 Aug 2018 11:30:52
I think grabban will get some time tonight good chance of him getting a goal to kick start him off



11 Aug 2018 08:35:57
Get in 😀Byram loan for season.
Once all our players are upmto speed we going to be unstoppable.
Wouldn't surprise me if we got another in
Prem teams have to release players if they aren't in 25 man squad. Could be a a few quality players available.

Red always

1.) 11 Aug 2018 23:30:57
Tyrone Mings would complete the set!



09 Aug 2018 19:22:40
Just looking at all championship teams transfer/ loans. None of them scare me.
Got to say we've bought very well and had a fantastic window.
I would like us to sign byram. As darikwa isn't the answer.
So long as they all gel quickly.
We should be pushing comfortably top 6.
Maybe see where we are at in January. Sure our owners will spend if we doing well to take us towards automatic promotion.

Red always

1.) 09 Aug 2018 20:38:56
I think Middlesborough have spent (and sold) wisely. They're the ones to beat IMO.

2.) 09 Aug 2018 20:47:15
Red always i agree with a lot of what you have put but as you have said it yourself about us, it is if players gel. On paper players can look average but it is how they gel that makes the difference so do not be too quick to condemn other teams. I feel as long as the Forest players have the right attitude we could be fighting it out for promotion in some form this season.

3.) 09 Aug 2018 22:17:09
Looking at the way we played on Tuesday I would say we are well on the way to gelling
Good times ahead I hope

4.) 10 Aug 2018 01:08:58
The one thing that impressed me the most Tuesday is every player works so hard to get the ball back out of possession which we can't say we have seen that with previous squads we have had u can just tell the effort and commitment from every player is there and that's what u need

5.) 10 Aug 2018 13:21:02
I’m of the opinion we might be going to 3 at the back. The only issue is who do we drop for the CB? I’d say drop a DM and go 3331. I’d be a lot more comfortable with Darikwa and Osborn if they didn’t have to worry about defending as much.




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19 Aug 2018 09:26:23
I look forward to when karanka picks is best side. because at moment he's showed loyalty to likes of darikwa and osbourne
Defensively they not good enough
And although fig and fox are playing well. We are still conceding silly goals.
Byram Dawson Robinson need to come into back for. With either fox or fig remaining
Cash colback geddy osbourne
Make the 3 Portuguese lads prove in training they better than the above.

Red always

1.) 19 Aug 2018 09:29:21
Whoops forgot I'd swap osbourne for lolley

2.) 19 Aug 2018 09:43:04
So your moaning about karanka showing loyalty to Osborn (correct spelling) but you would still put him in your

3.) 19 Aug 2018 09:51:23
Have to say it was fun watching Nugent try his heart out on Quest,and get nowhere for his beloved Sheep!!! Also see Olllie still hasn't changed!!! Definitely a penalty!!!

4.) 19 Aug 2018 10:02:58
It's good he's shown loyalty to Osborne but as a left back he's not good enough

5.) 19 Aug 2018 10:48:54
Would play 3 at the back, with Robinson and Bryan as wing backs.

6.) 19 Aug 2018 13:07:53
Me to burncross. But then who in front of them

7.) 19 Aug 2018 22:43:04
Our best team consists of 25 players over 46 matches. We will need to keep mixing it up to move forward. You usually get 10 games before the opposition works out how to play against you but with the technology available you can alreasy see teams are adapting after only 3/4 games?
There is no best first 11 that is going win week in week out. Expect Leeds to now stop dropping points after only winning 2-0 against Rotherham.

Trust in the depth of our squad and a manager you knows how to get the best out of his team?

Onward and Upward



19 Aug 2018 09:03:32
Sounds like we haggling add ins for brereton going to Blackburn
If karanka is prepared to sell. Hope he's looking to bring someone in on loan.
Grabbon soudani and Murphy leaves us light upfront.

Red always



18 Aug 2018 18:06:47
Here we go again
This players crap that players crap.
Chill out we've bought almost a new
Squad since karankas been here
It's going to take time to gel and to find out which first 11 and which formation is best for us. Plus it takes almost foreign players a lot longer to adapt to the championship plus different languages. Even karanka uses interpreter.

Red always

1.) 18 Aug 2018 18:17:32
Time to gel and find the first 11 he's had all summer to do that lol and it didn't take the foreign players at wolves to take long to adapt and I'm sorry oh no I'm not grabban was crap again simples

2.) 18 Aug 2018 18:22:58
And p.s red soudani is foreign lol

3.) 18 Aug 2018 21:38:39
We are unbeaten FFS skegs



18 Aug 2018 09:58:27
Brereton as got all the attributes to be a top player in future for defo.
We need to keep and develop him.
England Under 20 regular.
He's going to be worth closer to 30m in couple seasons
Look at ex players who we sold on cheap and what they worth now.
Laschellas 30m
Assombolnga 15m
Antonio 20m
Brereton only 19 years old
We should be keeping him letting him have last 20mins and sometimes starting him. If we sell then we definitely need to bring another forward in on loan.

Red always

1.) 18 Aug 2018 10:37:50
We sold assombalonga for £13mill so if he’s only worth £15 now we didn’t do too bad seeing as he cost us £5million.

2.) 18 Aug 2018 11:28:25
Britt and Antonio didn't come through the academy,so cannot be used as a comparison really.



14 Aug 2018 19:07:09
Karankas made 11 changes but no room not even on bench for worrell or bridgcutt.
Looks like they will be getting loaned.

Red always

1.) 14 Aug 2018 19:11:28
NO brereton either. 🤔

2.) 14 Aug 2018 20:45:52
Sorry lads I tempted fate. 😭😭😭😭




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19 Aug 2018 22:23:58
Season long loan with 1m loan fee.

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13 Aug 2018 16:19:34
Lone lol

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10 Aug 2018 16:55:03
He's there 3rd voice right back. How much is he worth bearing in mind he's had a few injurys aswel.
I'd say 2m tops

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09 Aug 2018 18:01:33
I wouldn't sell. Unless we were bringing in another forward of quality. Even then I'd want 5m plus 20% sell on fee
Plus another 2m after set apps and goals.

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09 Aug 2018 15:34:24
Deal agreed just got to pass medical.
Good solid signing to keep Dawson on his toes. Just need byram now.

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20 Aug 2018 21:45:20
I'd go with a 442 formation at present at least at home
Byram Dawson fox Robinson
Cash geddy colback lolley
Soudani grabbon
Brereton osbourne Dias Watson calvalho concalves
Fig Hef
Then it's upto these subs to take there chance when they get it.

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19 Aug 2018 22:26:44
Loan brereton for season charge them 1m loan fee. He comes back better player having done business Worth double they offering

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19 Aug 2018 13:07:53
Me to burncross. But then who in front of them

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19 Aug 2018 10:02:58
It's good he's shown loyalty to Osborne but as a left back he's not good enough

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19 Aug 2018 09:29:21
Whoops forgot I'd swap osbourne for lolley

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