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22 Jun 2015 07:39:26
The currant bun thinks we are after Nick Powell.

Pne also interested

I wonder if Man Utd would release him on loan at our affordability.

RiverofOaks

1.) 22 Jun 2015 10:53:10
Wouldn't think united would be too bothered about the wages contribution as long as their player gets the right coaching to bring him on. Think that's what dougies aiming for


2.) 22 Jun 2015 13:14:42
Could well happen. He is a good versatile player with a great long range effort. He has even been known to play as a number 9 before, maybe we will see him up top


3.) 22 Jun 2015 14:36:56
He had even been known to score the odd goal. Should fit in well with our proud history of non striking strikers over the last decade or so (earnshaw and Britt aside)


4.) 22 Jun 2015 19:27:26
Would be a good addition, hope its true


 

 

19 Jun 2015 15:40:50
Radi is refusing to leave.

RiverofOaks

1.) 19 Jun 2015 16:24:50
where?


2.) 19 Jun 2015 16:49:37
Good. Use him. Proper footballer !


3.) 19 Jun 2015 17:06:14
He's not refusing to leave, he just said the offer from Poland maybe isn't right for him. And he'll see if Dougie decides to give him a go. Fairly standard. Get him playing like he did under Davies and he could be a valuable asset (although Huddersfu


4.) 19 Jun 2015 17:36:41
Dare2believe, sorry, RiverofOaks, Radi isn't refusing to leave, he's turned down the offer of joining another club which a lot of players do. He's hoping he can make a go of it at Forest as Dougie tried to sign him when in charge at Bolton. The attitude we need I think


5.) 19 Jun 2015 17:52:28
another who is only interested in the money for not playing.
These are players with NO ambition


6.) 19 Jun 2015 22:02:40
1987 I think he would much rather be playing and earning his money than not!


7.) 20 Jun 2015 08:52:30
Uptheforest
you are deluded they only do it for the money.
He knows he is on good money that he won't get anywhere else
So He is happy to keep taking it.
If He had any ambition e would have gone after BD was sacked.
He went on loan and was not In Huddersfield team.
He knows if He goes back to Poland He won't be on the same sort of money He's on here


8.) 20 Jun 2015 09:07:28
1978.

Absolutely spot on.


9.) 20 Jun 2015 09:38:57
When I first read the article I thought "well he's got 2 years left on his Davies contract" So he'll hang onto those good wages if he plays or not. But if an English team comes in, he'll go I'm sure


10.) 20 Jun 2015 10:48:10
Comments bordering on disgraceful about one of the few players in the squad with real quality. Assumptions being made about the players own morality and character from people who no nothing about him or his personal circumstances. Well done folks


11.) 20 Jun 2015 11:11:26
Agreed if his heart is in it radi can be a great player for us


12.) 20 Jun 2015 12:08:10
Wilderbeast.

The way I see it, Radi has spoken to a club/ clubs therefore he has been told he can leave.

When realizing he can not get the same wages he is turning them down, therefore refusing to leave.

If he had performed well at Huddersfield he would have got a club that would pay what he wants, so he has not knuckled down to prove himself.


13.) 20 Jun 2015 12:39:46
I've got no problem with people attacking a player for being poor on the pitch as I've done many times myself but to have a go at someone without knowing a thing about their personal circumstances is out of order ! There are plenty of players that "knuckle down" and work hard in squad training without making the starting eleven. Billy rated him and psycho didn't. Now we have a new manager everybody is on a level playing field so if he fancies his chances under DF I've got no problem in him giving it a go. We need to get away from this "all players are just in it for the money" mentality. I know for a fact Raddy is currently doing extra training during the break while team mates are on the beach.


14.) 20 Jun 2015 13:11:09
Wilderbeast
What quality does He have.
In the two years under BD He was never fit enough to play more than 5 games for 90 mins. Most games he was brought off after 60 mins because He lacked stamina. Which in short means not good enough for the English game.
This was also proved at Huddersfield where He was unable to make any sort of impact.


15.) 20 Jun 2015 13:45:59
We all know Raddy is lightweight but I'm talking about his ability to make space, control a ball, see a pass and execute it. He's a clever player who always tries to play the right way on the floor which is what most of our team struggled to do last season. You seem to be confusing quality with strength and stamina.


16.) 20 Jun 2015 14:07:10
Wilderbeast.

What is the point in having the qualities you mention if you are brushed to one side before being able to show them.


17.) 20 Jun 2015 14:47:39
No point in being able to pick a pass if you never have the Ball. There are loads of people who can do miracles with a football but they don't ay professional football


18.) 20 Jun 2015 15:08:45
There are loads of people with stamina and strength who are crap at football. I would rather a player have the talent. Take Andrew Surman. A quality passer and good football brain who is a complete lightweight, but because he plays in a team on the same wave length which plays to his strengths, brings out the best in him and his quality comes to the fore.


19.) 20 Jun 2015 16:04:49
we could talk forever about who is able to pick a pass and who can't. we have had countless managers who don't think Radi has what it takes and I agree with them.
The problem was our chairman gave him a four year deal which will be another millstone around his neck.


20.) 20 Jun 2015 16:46:09
Countless managers ? But only one who knew how to use him


21.) 20 Jun 2015 16:59:22
Wildrbeast
One manager who knew him ???
He played 90 min football 5 times in 18 months under BD
Most of the time he was brought off after 60 mins
This is not a great record for a pro footballer.


22.) 20 Jun 2015 17:24:11
One knew how to use him, but he had no idea how to use a forward, he had no idea how to handle the media, he had no guts to push on when going in front.

He moaned about wanting more money, no matter how much he was given. He got George Boyd chucked out of the club when he took over, he thought he was better than he was.

He also got rid of our youth system.


23.) 20 Jun 2015 19:48:22
Erm I'm lost. How did we get from personal attacks on Majewski to what a poor manager Billy was.


24.) 21 Jun 2015 00:07:45
You implied Davies was the only manager that knew how to get the best out of Radi, so I let you know what Billy was useless at, as you well know Wilderbeast.


25.) 21 Jun 2015 07:06:44
Just to back wilderbeast up here there was a young lad at Chelsea who was one of the best English players we have seen for a while.good on the ball could spot a key pass and had goals in him but in his Chelsea career who only made was it 1 full 90 mins and I'm pretty sure he didn't play many 90 mins for his next few clubs.
He's won and intertoto cup
3 premier league medals
3 fa cups
2 league cups
And 2 charity shields.
That's not bad for a player who can't manage a full 90 mins.
His name was joe cole if you didn't know.


26.) 21 Jun 2015 08:04:41
Like I said folks, you can gain strength and stamina but you've either got natural ability or you ain't. I know which I prefer.

{Ed001's Note - both? Only Joe Cole was a fat lazy donkey when he played for Liverpool. One of the worst players I have ever seen in the shirt, which takes some doing when you look at the dross that has pulled it on in the last 30 years! If they don't train properly, and improve their strength and stamina, then they end up like fatboy Cole with injury after injury and never get to show anything. In fact his only use was as a workout to the stretcher bearers. Surely you are better off getting a player with ability that he can use? If you are not fit enough, then your mind is unable to work properly, it slows down, you want to play a pass but your leg can't generate the power or you just react too slow and the ball is gone before you have had time to play it. There is no excuse in this day and age for being out of shape. They are professional athletes being paid huge sums of money to kick a ball, the least they can do is actually put the effort in. I still can't believe someone thinks Joe Cole was a good player, one of the most over rated lumps of lard I have ever seen, even as a kid. If he had been from anywhere else he would have got nowhere near international football in his life, but we like to hype anyone who does a fancy flick, even if he was doing it in his own half and giving the ball back to the opposition. I remember him as a kid, he was all flicks and tricks in his own half then, he never learnt a thing sadly.}


27.) 21 Jun 2015 08:35:34
Joe cole was a game changer simple as that.i would rather have him in my team than against me (in his prime).
He wasn't all about flicks he was about beating his man and creating chances which he did and looked very good doing it.joe cole was never fat or overweight.peoples bodies are different and some have different muscles structures that don't permit them to have the stamina to go a full 90mins running at defenders.some players are 60min all in players and some go the full 90s,everyone's body is different some cope with the day to day routines some don't.sometimes it's something that Connot be changed and they have to live with.

{Ed001's Note - he really was fat and overweight, he got told so at Chelsea and at Liverpool repeatedly. Some players are 60min players because they are unfit and lack stamina. They should train harder and they would last longer. It really is that simple in the modern era with the diet and training available to them. If they were professional and put in the work rate, as someone such as Charlie Adam has done in recent years, they would be able to improve their stamina as he has done. There is no longer an excuse. This is not the 1980s any more. Lifestyle issues are usually the root of all the problems with stamina. They would rather go out on the lash than rest when their bodies need it, so they are tired the next day and do not train as hard as they should, which means they are not improving their stamina, so the next day they are tired and so on. Eat right, live right and they would gradually improve their stamina level.}


28.) 21 Jun 2015 09:25:31
I think it is fair to point out, I have nothing personal against Joe Cole, he is actually a lovely lad, a really nice lad who does work his butt off when he is on the pitch. The problem is that he is not very bright, and when he is training he tries too hard to be one of the lads and ends up slacking off messing around with his mates. That is probably why he did better while in France, as he would not have been able to do that, with him being unable to really get into the banter due to the language barrier. He allows himself to get distracted and led astray, in a very similar way to Gazza, though without anything like as much talent to get away with it.


29.) 21 Jun 2015 09:59:40
I'm confused again. Are we saying Raddy isn't fit ? We seem to be going off on tangents again. Joe Cole maybe considered fat and lazy but that's got nothing to do with Majewski being lightweight.

{Ed001's Note - good point you make there, the two cases are not relevant.}


30.) 21 Jun 2015 16:27:53
What I was saying is people have different genetics and some CAN change and be beneficial and some cannot change.look at paterson he's been doing weights and trying to gets gains yes he's leaned out and you can actually see muscle but he hasn't thickend out much ad will still be considered lightweight.some people cannot get to the stamina they need to play football for 90 mins because there body isn't made for it,yes cole could knuckle down but he still wouldn't be a 90min player.
Look at dyer all the ability trained like mad looked good for it come game time he gets injured same as jenas,training harder doesn't mean you get injured less it's all about your body and body genetics.


31.) 21 Jun 2015 21:40:10
You are all missing the point with Radi. He has been at his best in a Forest shirt when we have had a strong holding midfielder which allows Radi to express himself when Forest keep possession and are not chasing the ball. McKenna and Geddy allowed him to play. In his last full season we had no less than 8 players trying to play DM and our midfield was shambolic always losing possession which makes Radi look bad especially as he is not a ball winner although he did his best to track back.

Huddersfield was not a good move for him as they do not keep possesion well and rely on pace down the wings to attack.

Given Reid is done for he is our only creative midfield option provided we get the balance of midfield correct. Osborn is not the finished article so unless we can unearth a creative diamond then he should be given a chance but we need a strong DM to allow him and the team to play. Andrew Surman is a good example of a so called lightweight who is suberb if you get the team balance right!


 

 

17 Jun 2015 09:13:16
A tabloid has said we told West Bromwich Antonio is not available at any price, so spent £7m on someone else.

RiverofOaks

1.) 17 Jun 2015 13:05:26
Fawaz will sell on last day of transfer window


2.) 17 Jun 2015 13:44:43
Why on last day of transfer window?


3.) 17 Jun 2015 14:17:02
Cos he always does something strange on the last transfer day


4.) 17 Jun 2015 16:52:27
Not really Cannock, he normally does nothing - that's always been the problem!

If we do cash in on the last day due to a massive panic bid (from someone like Fester) it doesn't make much difference to us as we can't spend the money, and any replacement will still be a free agent or loan when the window closes.


5.) 17 Jun 2015 17:13:05
So who did WBA spend £7m on?


6.) 17 Jun 2015 17:53:09
Makes me laugh - just standing at Leicester station waiting for a train home, and heard some bloke say with total confidence "WBA offered £9m and Fawaz said no chance". I know we can be a deluded bunch, but if anyone offered twice Antonio's worth, why would we turn it down?! We still need to get out of FFP! And his sellable value plus wages would be a massive step towards that (as much as it would damage our team to lose him).


7.) 17 Jun 2015 17:54:31
I must of dreamt the Boyd eye test and selling darlow and lascelles then A Block


8.) 17 Jun 2015 18:09:11
Do we all really think Antonio will have another season like he did last season?i personally think he performed way over par and I think this season he will be about par.as many good games as poor games and won't score half the goals he did last season.he excelled last season which I'm glad he did but can he keep that up,I don't think he can.he will always be a threat there's no doubt but I can't see him being as good next year.5-6 million I would be taking.plus a player on loan for free with us paying 10 wages for that player.


9.) 17 Jun 2015 18:48:51
Darlow and lascelles were sold on the 9th of August!so you must of dreamt the date up because that isn't the last day.


10.) 17 Jun 2015 19:27:46
Stevesuttonswonkyeye.

West Bromwich brought Qpr's Matt Philips apparently.


11.) 17 Jun 2015 19:31:13
Says qpr want 5million for him.


 

 

10 Jun 2015 16:59:25
Due to play Aston Villa on August 1st.

RiverofOaks

1.) 10 Jun 2015 17:52:20
Massive game for us.should set the 150years of forest a light with that game.


2.) 11 Jun 2015 14:26:23
hope we've got a plan to stop gardner getting back on the bus after the game.


 

 

09 Jun 2015 15:17:45
Derik Osede is reputedly choosing between Forest, Watford, and Wolves. How much game time is each club likely to give him.

RiverofOaks

1.) 09 Jun 2015 15:50:12
At least with us he would be first choice and get loads of game time and would have another spaniard reira to pal about with


2.) 11 Jun 2015 11:49:30
How do you know he'd be first choice?


 

 

 

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04 Jul 2015 17:58:07
What is wrong with some posters?

Our manager when answering reporter's questions comes out with statements, or answers which ever you prefer, some which prove him to be a lier, and some that make look a victoriana workhouse boss.

Then when a little time has passed they forget what he has said, if they ever check the Internet for reports, then moan when other posters state what he has said, because it does not suit their opinion.

No one is always right, even if we all like to think so, so do not moan when the manager says something that proves you opinion wrong, after all when I'm wrong, or someone comes up with a constructive argument I will listen, and admit I'm wrong.

RiverofOaks

1.) 04 Jul 2015 20:38:06
I much prefered Dare2belive4once.
He was a far more cheerful chap and filled me with optimism.


2.) 04 Jul 2015 20:44:16
Lol, Instead of trying your best to patronise others, how about your next post be the actual quote that he apparently said!! Then we can all say 'well done, you were right all along riverofoaks!!'


3.) 04 Jul 2015 21:25:09
Is he a liar ? or do situations change from week to week , day to day, hour to hour.
What I find funny is people on here want the management to inform fans all their business, plans, transfer targets, tactics, budgets, team selections because. you would wouldn't you. not
DF is the manager and doesn't need to and shouldn't have to tell all and sundry couch expert fans what he is up to.
Im a fan and do like news on the club but don't expect the club to tell me everything, its a business afterall and you get no where by discussing your plans in a public domain and your rivals.
Fans get real and let's trust the management to make the right decisions and take us forward.


4.) 04 Jul 2015 21:25:35
Wow River. a direct attack on my previous post. My post was in full defence of DF that I do not believe the theory that he prefers a workman like team over a footballing team.

You replied without answering the question my post was answering. Can you do that yet?? Or just going to throw more obscure DF quotes from 6 months ago into the mix?


5.) 04 Jul 2015 23:23:12
Word is Daretobelieve & Riverofoaks have never been seen in the same room together? Intrigue.


6.) 05 Jul 2015 10:46:12
Nor 5th-8th!!!


 

 

02 Jul 2015 09:52:27
Just read the Mills interview, one minute he states he has joined us for footballing reasons, then moans the owner can not splash the cash.

I'm sure he is getting plenty of money in bonuses.

RiverofOaks

1.) 02 Jul 2015 14:37:18
He was critical of the ffp rules and our embargo, not fawaz


2.) 02 Jul 2015 14:48:43
Why are we bashing the new signings before they've kicked a ball??


3.) 02 Jul 2015 18:14:50
NA1.

You did not read my post right.

Off course Mills was moaning about the ffp, that is because without the ffp he would not have to rely on bonuses to make his wages up.

The only reasons he joined us are massive bonuses, and he could be on crutches and the manager would still consider picking him, if he feels like playing.

Are the other players going to like being shouted at by the managers best bud.


4.) 02 Jul 2015 20:11:39
River, NA1 did read your post right.

Bonuses are part of operating costs and therefore governed by FFP. Otherwise, any club could sign a player on 1k a week but give them a 1m bonus if they made it past the first match.


5.) 02 Jul 2015 20:24:52
I therefore read it wrong in the post, that says bonuses do not come in the ffp.


 

 

01 Jul 2015 14:14:34
For me Mills has a lot to win me over. Mills is nothing more than one of the managers cronies.

RiverofOaks

1.) 01 Jul 2015 15:01:48
Well at least he seems to have half a brain to organise the back line.

Hobbs Mills Wilson could make a great back 3 if we get some fast full backs!


2.) 01 Jul 2015 15:26:04
Rather a. crony than a detractor 😈


3.) 01 Jul 2015 15:51:11
Put in a call for a 352 a while back & Mr Redinexile put it down as "doomed for relegation". Funny how opinions constantly change. If your happy with Antonio out the loop then let's go with a 352.


4.) 01 Jul 2015 15:57:37
Hobbs can not stay fit, Mills a crony, Wilson back problems. All you need is Cohen, Reid, and Ward all injury prone, and you have bunch of unreliable has beens costing the club a fortune.


5.) 01 Jul 2015 16:09:50
Mills a Crony??? What does that even mean??? Mills played 41 games last season & if i'm not mistaken Bolton Conceded fewer than us. Mills is a decent player who ain't constantly broken.
What is your point about Mills & Freedman & how is it relevant???


6.) 01 Jul 2015 16:27:10
Mills said he jumped at the chance to work with df again translated that means df told him he will be first choice and captain.


7.) 01 Jul 2015 16:50:30
I'm pleased with this one, he is experienced, good in the air and will organise the defence better than anyone we have. The best pairing would be Mancienne and Mills, but I fear we will see Mancienne in midfield a lot more and Hobbs partnering Mills.


8.) 01 Jul 2015 17:39:49
Who cares if he told him that. Not unreasonable to see why he may rate him higher than Hobbs and Wilson. And even if he doesn't he simply may recognise how much we lack q leader. And not even the big idiot on here can think we have an abundance of players who stepped up and led last season!!


9.) 01 Jul 2015 20:22:14
Prediction hobbs and mills will be one of the best cb pairings in the division


10.) 01 Jul 2015 22:17:12
I've been saying for some time that most of the Championship clubs who have gone up have huge blokes in central defence. If he can give us passion and commitment Mills along with Hobbs could be a good paring.


11.) 01 Jul 2015 22:19:24
Cjay,

Please review my posts!

I have always maintained we should play to our strengths and given the balance of the squad 3-5-2 is a logical set up even for last season.

Antonio should not be a factor in this equation as he can do far more damage if played as a second striker in a free role where the opposition cannot double up and contain him on the flanks.This would also stop us being so one dimensional in our play and get the best out of others especially the Burkes!

Unfortunately at present Kane and McLoughlin and for that matter Mackie have been dispensed with so our squad wing back options are very thin on the ground.

No matter DF is by all accounts a "bright young thing" committed to "scouring Europe" for talent so I am sure he must have a plan for balancing up the holes in the squad he has created? Default to 4-4-2 will not move us forward next season

Time will tell!. a luxury he may not have?


12.) 02 Jul 2015 22:34:27
Antonio proved last year that he is not a striker I'm afraid so that isn't his best role. He is a winger and was at his best throughout the season on the wing


13.) 04 Jul 2015 09:41:42
Antonio never played with a strike partner. He would get far more space if played in a free role.


 

 

25 Jun 2015 14:04:43
Huddersfield supposedly have joined the ever growing queue for Josh Ginerlly from Shrewsbury. I beginning to think he will stay where he is.

RiverofOaks

1.) 25 Jun 2015 17:51:05
Why when he is out of contract and a host of clubs are chasing him will he stay where he is. We might not sign him but he will definitely move somewhere.


2.) 25 Jun 2015 19:26:37
My reasoning is, he has been speculated to be going to this club, that club, from what I have read Huddersfield are the only recent club to be linked.

He therefore has had loads of time to speak to everyone, yet through it all I have not read Shrewsbury are resigned to losing him.

Maybe he feels that at least for one more season is better of staying where he is. I know it is too early for any club to announce his signing, but for me Shrewsbury's silence is quiet confidence he might stay.


3.) 25 Jun 2015 21:43:22
Shrewsbury fully expect him to leave, they offered him a new contract at the end of last season and havnt heard from him since. The manager has stated that he feels it would be better for his development to stay but it is extremely unlikely that he will.


4.) 26 Jun 2015 10:49:35
Yes, he has his choice of Championship clubs and perhaps even a Premiership side or two but instead he'll decide to sign a one-year deal with Shrewsbury. Good call lol.


 

 

24 Jun 2015 20:32:33
I have just seen the video of the new shirt, I like it.

What would have been a good idea though, as it is for a Anniversary would to have Cloughs, and Taylors heads under the badge, and a Illustration of the ground from the Trent on the back, obviously a sensible size.

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03 Jul 2015 14:21:22
Let's wait and see.

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25 Jun 2015 19:37:22
Have you never felt fruity Wilderbeast, or has it been longer than your old age you had had no feelings.

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25 Jun 2015 16:01:36
I thought it was the bad apples that you do not want, not all other fruits.

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25 Jun 2015 12:25:35
Cjay for manager?

Having a knowledge of what positions playerror play in is a very small part of managing a team Redinexile, so that was not something I was suggesting.

I personally do think we have to take one step back to move two forward. The club has got to forget promotion and start getting the right foundations in place on, off the pitch before promotion is even considered.

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24 Jun 2015 20:58:22
Keeno.

I do not agree with everything Cjay says, but I believe he has a good knowledge of what players he comments on positions.

As you yourself say a natural leftbacks is needed.

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04 Jul 2015 18:32:48
Keeno

I can not state where I read it,as I check so many sites, but Mr Freedman after about 6 games into his reign said that when a reporter asked a question about team selection.

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04 Jul 2015 16:59:17
I traveled from Peterborough to Nottingham on the 2nd day the shop started selling them, I got both a short sleeve, a long sleeve.

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04 Jul 2015 16:54:37
What you seem to forget is, Freedman himself stated he prefers hard work over skill to get in the 1st team.

So do not shoot the messenger, shoot the horse whose mouth it came out of, if you do not like it being said.

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03 Jul 2015 21:29:20
Hard work over skill, and creativity are our managers stance.

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03 Jul 2015 21:23:27
Mapperly Red.

You are the 2nd person to mention Dare2, Cjay mentioned him recently.

Let me see, our manager got sacked at Bolton, Mills was there, so was the guy you want to give a chance to, so both helped our manager fail, yet come to Forest.

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