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19 Jan 2017 11:12:03
To try and make sense of the mess Forest have got themselves into, one has to try to understand the mindset of Fawaz Al-Hazawi. Whatever he may say in interviews, on Twitter or through the Forest website, you can be sure it's not what he really thinks. What he says one day can change 180 degrees before the next day dawns. "Oliver Burke, great player, not for sale" - next day Burke is sold. "Sean O'Driscoll, wonderful manager" - sacked following a 4-2 victory with the club in 8th place. In the light of all that's gone on at Forest, it's easy to conclude that Fawaz is deluded, but that's looking at it from a normal perspective. If any normal Forest supporter had failed so badly with a business, they'd call it a day, but not Fawaz. He doesn't think like the average fan, let alone the average person. People may conclude that the desire to claw back cash was the main factor behind his fall-out with the Americans, but I would say it's much more a case of pride than greed. I suspect he felt insulted by JJ Moores, who probably told him he was living in La La Land with his valuation of Forest. He could have afforded to give the club away for nothing and take a hit on his £100 million "loan", but that would amount to an admission of failure - and that's what he can't stand. This is a man with a HUGE ego and his ego is on the ropes right now, which makes him a dangerous and unpredictable animal. One only has to look back at the Al-Fayed situation at Fulham to work out that these kinds of people - who have inherited vast sums and have always lived like kings - have a very different idea of reality. When Fayed first arrived at Craven Cottage, he ran the length of the pitch waving his scarf at the fans at the start of every home game, thinking he was adored. The truth was that most fans (and I know this because I attended many of these games) thought he was a complete t**t, whilst at the same time secretly admiring him for stumping up the cash - and this is problem for clubs like Forest, who need ego-driven multi-millionaires like Fawaz Al-Hazawi. Only the very wealthy have the means to buy and run top football clubs. These types of men, the Fayeds, the Al-Hazawis and so on, are not stupid people. They have financial empires after all. However the more sensible ones delegate, the less sensible ones dictate, because they think they can do everything better than everyone else. At this moment in time I suspect Fawaz trusts very few people, is worried about his reputation and will be very reluctant to admit failure. Even that rather sombre interview with Natalie Jackson when he more or less admitted he'd cocked it up, was a smokescreen. "The people want humility, I'll give them humility". But this is not a humble man - you can tell that by every action he has ever taken. Understanding pride is the key to understanding Fawaz. So when it comes to getting him out, be careful what you wish for. A mass protest outside the City Ground gates may well have the opposite effect. We're all fed up with him but demonstrating it publicly could make him even more determined to stay put and prove everybody wrong. He's keeping a lowish profile right now, but the only way he's going to permanently vanish from the scene is when his family tells him enough is enough. Let's just hope that day comes soon.

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1.) 19 Jan 2017 12:38:34
Swiss Red You are spot on with most of your post but first of all Fawaz has no money of his own it is all Family money loaned to the club. His family would disown him if he lost them that amount of money. "IF" he were a business man He would have had people in to run the club from day one, instead he employed Family and friends to oversee something that they knew nothing about . If you ask yourselves why the answer is simple. He did not want people to know that everything he said was a lie and it was not his money and by having family and friends around him nobody would find out. That was they until the incompetent fools he had employed didn't pay the bills on time because they didn't realise they were running out of money and Fawaz was not able to put any more in because the Family said NO


2.) 19 Jan 2017 12:59:25
thanks for that update 1978, you're obviously in the know here, all I would say is that if what you say is the case, we're doomed because no-one is ever going to buy the club for anything like the money the family has put in - so the likelihood is he'll let the club burn and the family will disown him anyway


3.) 19 Jan 2017 14:37:04
I have friends who work at the ground and have done for a very long time so I get to hear things that don't come out very often, but have to be careful as not to get anyone in trouble. As I posted yesterday why would a so called Millionaire Have to borrow 2.2 million from JJM to help run the club through December, That in its self tells you He has no money


 

 

05 Oct 2016 07:51:26
Sorry to bang on about Burke, but it's the main reason why the team performances have fallen off a cliff. The three league victories in August were mostly down to his running and his goals. Who knows how many more points he could have earned us during September? Not only that, the thought of seeing him play made me want to go to the City Ground and since he left the matches are nowhere near as exciting. I don't see anyone else in the squad that could win matches single-handed, aside from Assombalonga, assuming he will play regularly. Selling Burke when we did was a major error and something no-one can blame Montanier for. We can blame someone else however.

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1.) 05 Oct 2016 08:20:15
Swiss, would keeping Burke have addressed our dreadful defensive tactics though?

Your right though we'd have won more by scoring more and at least it would have been entertaining!


2.) 05 Oct 2016 17:51:42
It all comes down to why we go to football matches - I don't expect my team to win every time but I feel much better when I've seen an exciting match, even when the result has gone against us. I agree the defense has been dodgy, but I still enjoyed watching in August. September was a different story, for me anyway.


 

 

02 Oct 2016 08:55:25
I don't get this thing about Hobbs - how unfit can he be? Surely when Forest haven't kept one clean sheet all season he must be worth a try. Also don't see why Vaughan isn't getting starts. Both of these are experienced championship players and the team needs tightening up. Hopefully Pinillos will help, if he's as good as last season when he gets back.

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1.) 02 Oct 2016 10:06:52
Totally agree, if fit both fit they should be fixturers, plain silly!
No wins post Burke, no that is Fawaz to blame, came away from the Leeds game feeling quite optermistic but since nothing, would definatly have more points if we still had him . Could prove football suicide .
The three new wingers looking very poor replacements so far and PM seems reluctant to play Peirea there on the right where he could develope a good flank with Eric but what do I know.
CARLO.


2.) 02 Oct 2016 10:32:14
and I agree with you Carlo - selling Burke was idiotic, but as you say, what do we know?


3.) 02 Oct 2016 11:38:20
I don't get it. If Hobbs was on bench against Fulham. Where was he yesterday.


4.) 02 Oct 2016 12:21:53
Probably got injured in his warm up.


 

 

02 Sep 2016 08:03:45
Phillips Montanier seems to have suddenly improved his written language skills - or perhaps that statement was written for him?

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31 Aug 2016 06:45:01
money talks and business is business, but a good negotiator would recognize that a club whose opening bid is £8 million is very serious about buying and would be willing to go to a lot more than £13 million as well as agreeing to a sell-on clause. Then again we don't have a good negotiator, we have Fawaz.

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12 Dec 2016 17:32:40
agree - Kasami, Lam, Carayol extremely poor. Bendtner average. Vaughan and Hobbs are better than any of these but the manager doesn't fancy them. Without Assombalonga and Lansbury we look unimpressive. Could have lost by more, at least Cash and Osborn gave it a go. Get rid of the deadweights and bring in some more youth players, they couldn't be any worse.

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30 Sep 2017 07:34:01
sorry Rutland I got the wrong poster - too early in the morning. I agree with you actually

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30 Sep 2017 07:25:39
Rutland why do you say Hobbs is clinging on? Do you know something we don't? Given a choice between him and Mills I know who I'd pick - I agree with many on here who think the defence needs a shake-up, so why not try a different line-up?

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31 Jan 2017 07:40:56
Totally agree - but I wouldn't be surprised if Fawaz makes a less logical choice !

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19 Jan 2017 12:59:25
thanks for that update 1978, you're obviously in the know here, all I would say is that if what you say is the case, we're doomed because no-one is ever going to buy the club for anything like the money the family has put in - so the likelihood is he'll let the club burn and the family will disown him anyway

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05 Oct 2016 17:51:42
It all comes down to why we go to football matches - I don't expect my team to win every time but I feel much better when I've seen an exciting match, even when the result has gone against us. I agree the defense has been dodgy, but I still enjoyed watching in August. September was a different story, for me anyway.

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