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04 Mar 2019 22:03:39
Will we ever find out who scouted, who chose, who decided the fees, for the 3 amigos or like many things in our lives - perhaps it will remain a mystery but I think we have been sold our most expensive player that at the moment we couldn't give away. My guess like Dias, we will not see our 13 M player again in a Forest shirt.

doc m

1.) 04 Mar 2019 23:00:41
The boy has a touch of class and personally think he'll become a very good player.
The problem lies with paying so much money out when your a championship club.
13 million for a kid who hadn't hardly kicked a ball for bemfica in the proper league asks questions.
It could have been worst as gongalves was supposed to be even better and would have cost 20 million.
It's a risk we shouldn't have taken,but the kid does have talent and he's not exactly surrounded by it though.
On the flip side we signed lolley for 500k and now he's worth what we paid for Carvahlo,some you win some you lose,kids in this decision tend to lose.
Still time to make a late impact and I'm not giving up,can't see it being pretty though,but couldn't care as long as it has an end product.

2.) 05 Mar 2019 08:21:40
Agreed mate,it's not over till it's over!!!

3.) 05 Mar 2019 09:50:31
Good post ff. I could tell who had written it before i saw your name at the bottom.
We were all excited about the Pertuguese at the start of the season. Unfortunately it hasn't worked

4.) 05 Mar 2019 10:51:25
I don’t think any of it matters , there is nothing sinister and no one was badly advised. Carvalho did fine under AK and would Have improved vastly, he will struggle under these two. He’d do fine in Derby’s formation. MON and RK play a different game that doesn’t suit carvalho, I do believe that I’m the fullness of time it will be a more effective brand of football in this league . I did say when we pursued these two that some of the players would have sacrificed to make it work and that will, I think play out. You never know they may be able to coach him enough to change but you have to remember he will have been coached to play a certain brand from a young age.

Best outcome will be for us to get our money back, if he goes cheap we’ve still got cash and lolley.

5.) 05 Mar 2019 13:31:23
2 star and ff79 i totally disagree about carvalaho. You only have to look at his history, which their is none. Someone tried to be clever and say they had unearthed a star.Oops big big blooper. He has skill but a poor touch. He is not strong and has no pace. Has no ariel prowess and cannot tackle. The qualities vital for this league he is missing in spades. What he brings their is plenty of in the under 23's. Maybe if we were in the prem then the way people sit off wnd allow people to play he might be different. You won't see oneil pull this type of stunt or be persuaded to do so either. It is not the lads fault he just has not got it at this level. Its an awful scenario that was wrong and its no good forcing the issue. We won't get a brass farthing for him so big dilema for the club.

6.) 05 Mar 2019 18:04:50
Fair enough Rutland , let’s hope we have a solution then because it’s more money than we can afford to squander and will undoubtedly restrict the plans of MON in the transfer market.

7.) 05 Mar 2019 19:19:16
2star i would love him to come good as you are righton that. But really has he got enough to convince the management to trust in him????

8.) 05 Mar 2019 20:31:51
It’s worrying if someone did have our pants down. Let’s hope they don’t own a bakery for their sake!

9.) 06 Mar 2019 19:31:46
Was it not only a couple of games ago fans were questioning why mn hadn't picked jc because of his talent and best attacking midfielder we have next to lolley or the fact we'd hardly created any chances since he's not been playing, give him a break he's had a couple of minutes here and their so not exactly match sharp and having been at the game we not managed a chance till jc come on the pitch yeah he cocked up but how many of the other players have a perfect game take derby we could have had 5 past em but managed 1 . As for paying to much I'd agree but I think we'll make that plus more if we get to the prem as I think that's where he'd shine



15 Feb 2019 21:02:13
It will be a close game tomorrow but a Forest win with some good favour that we are surely due. I suspect the side to be unchanged tomorrow but sorry would not want Murphy on for the last 15 as happened on Tuesday. He is not able to run like Lolley and I felt the change gave WBA more freedom to run fioreward. Maybe no sub tomorrow or Bonatini.

doc m

1.) 16 Feb 2019 00:08:47
Or appiah

2.) 15 Feb 2019 08:44:49
Preston 1 v Forest 3


3.) 16 Feb 2019 07:54:39
Yacob for Watson. When Murphy came on you'd have thought he was the player that needed bringing off for a rest. Zero effort to get at the WBA defense.

4.) 16 Feb 2019 08:33:38
Appiah played yesterday against Barnsley. So far he's not even making the bench, so maybe MON/RK not so impressed?



01 Jan 2019 22:28:30
What entertainment today, We saw the best out of Cash and Murphy and Benny as a Sub. Geddy put himself about challenging robustly. Colback just gets better. Cavahlio also I think had his best game. There is no doubt our best central defence is Fig and Dawson. Was Grabbon was injured? Let us hope Marinakis watched the match heard the cheering from the fans for AK and appreciates a manager that knows more about football than he and is an absolute gentleman in his manner. Probably the best manager we have had since BC. However in 2019 a manager has to be more PC than ever was the case in the past.

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1.) 02 Jan 2019 00:34:46
Carvalho was pissh today, jumped out of 50/50s think the wind blew him over a couple of times, gave the ball away plenty of times, he's trying you can tell that but he looks like an u18 out of his depth atm

2.) 02 Jan 2019 12:44:14
So 4 people thought he wasn’t a passenger yesterday, would you like to explain your reasons? Like I said he was a passenger.



27 Dec 2018 23:52:25
I have just watched the highlights! Both the second goals would not have been scored if Robinson was still there. Sadly both of these goals were when number 31 was skinned on the left and then number 31 miss the ball completely for the third. Equally I believe neither of these goals would have happened if Osborn had come on instead of 31. What is a complete mystery is why AK did this.

I can only presume as with Dowell last season, 31,has to play a certain number of games to fulfil the loan contract and AK thought at 3 1 up it was safe to do this. AK has played with the best been an understudy to the best coach and got Middlesbrough up and I believe he will with Forest. However if 31 is even on the bench on Saturday, I will think that there is something going on we are completely unaware of.

Also I am sure AK was given an ultimatum at the Ipswich match. Remember the good old days with Fawaz a managerial change every 6 months, relegation battles at the end of the season. Is that what we want to go back to? The match on Saturday is a crucial one. The fate of AK is in the teams hands. If they want him to stay they will pull out all the stops and again against Leeds and maybe we will be just in the play offs.

doc m

1.) 28 Dec 2018 00:22:23
Only one thing wrong with your post doc, you like karanka blame the team.
Think about it? and none of us are football managers ,but would you have taken cash off when he's on a hat trick and replace him with a total lightweight??
What gets worst is he then says Norwich have such good forwards they are bound to score.
Sorry mate karanka had a win in the bag and blew it with bad decisions

2.) 28 Dec 2018 05:13:13
The manager had a strict task and target at the start of the season.
At this moment in time he isn't fulfilling the requirements.
He picks players and tactics. If Forest doesn't win the manager gets the blame. Look at Man U as an example.
Jose's arrogance cost him his job.
I initially thought Krankie was the right man for forest but cracks appeared with his choice of players and tactics etc.
So I ask this question. Do you give him more money in January or get in somebody else?
Very tough decision to call!

3.) 28 Dec 2018 05:26:28
He does not feel our forward players are any good then.

4.) 28 Dec 2018 06:38:11
I think what FF is trying to say is 3 nil with 20 mins left we should of shut up shop.
Instead Manuel makes poor choices.
Norwich bang in 3. post match interview Manuel was trying to save face by basically saying he expected Norwich to score. A strange thing to say?
He should of said I made a wrong call and it Cost us a win. Simples

5.) 28 Dec 2018 10:37:37
I like krankie but the result on Boxing Day was his fault no one else's. Other than scoring two excellent goals Cash didn't have his best game but to bring Dias on for him and ask him to help a right back out at left back was an accident waiting to happen. Osborn would've been a better option. The manager made a massive mistake but didn't want to admit it. That said, I don't think sacking him is a great idea half way through a season. Hopefully the recent results are just the obligatory dip in form most teams suffer throughout a season.



23 Dec 2018 21:25:44
I think the first half of the season needs some perspective we are 7th . Only two other teams have lost 4 games - Middlesbrough and Norwich. Our goal difference is the same or better as the 4 teams above us. Where we are down is of course the games we drew. Apart from Osborn and Cash no other player was in this team a year ago.

From our Greek owner down to users of this site, this can't be seen other than a complete turnaround for our team. AK wants players that commit 100%, he says that time and time again. Anyone who was at the match would agree that the teams enthusiasm from a high on Monday dropped to a low on Saturday. Were they worn out? We now have 3 consecutive matches for AK and his team to prove they have the desire. Norwich will be a difficult test as to a lesser extent will Millwall.

If they are not fired up however to beat Leeds and give Mr Roofe his come uppance I would be disappointed to say the least. AK has done a significant amount already let's hope he can continue to get consistency out of them.

doc m

1.) 23 Dec 2018 21:44:33
In my opinion the reason we have drawn so many games is the players think they have the game won before stepping out on the pitch, or they tried to protect a one goal lead.

2.) 23 Dec 2018 22:40:28
Doc m did you see leeds play villa despite going down 2 nil they were relentless if forest are not up for it we will be hammered.

3.) 23 Dec 2018 23:00:49
LC, I agree. It's that fine line between confidence and arrogance. The players have to grasp the simple fact, you earn the right to win a football match.

4.) 23 Dec 2018 23:02:37
I am up and down with AK. A few weeks ago we were 2 points off top now we are 13 and 12 respectively. His stubbornness with playing the likes of pants and carvalaho is costing us valuable points. He won't change and when he does its nuts like yesterdays subs. What was all that about? I really want to believe he knows what he is doing but sadly he is a sulker and beligerent.

On a side note Grabban scores when its on a plate, fair play for a poacher but other than lolley where do the opportunist goals come from? We are still lacking in that dept. too so on reflection, we are back to being inconsistent and can't score. Not real progress

5.) 24 Dec 2018 13:49:16
Rutland, the thing with Grabban is that's exactly what he is, a poacher. And a good one. So why aren't we playing his strengths? We should be playing 433 with 2 fast wingers either side of him, providing him with tap in oppertunities. But instead its like we are playing 451 and just kicking it up to Grabban and expecting him to run on to everything and create all his own chances.




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19 Apr 2019 14:42:20
There is no way Sheffield are a better team or have a better manager. MoN had a plan ruined by that sending off, which was not a red card. We matched them until that sending off. Pressure in the last 20 to get an equaliser, so they got another goal! This was not a poor display. Yacob, Milosevic keep. Benalouane is a liability. Colback is good not that good and too expensive. Pantillion doesn't come off his line but makes great saves nevertheless. MoN needs the next year for once stability in our club. No manager no team changes would have made any differences. Monday another game. COYR.

doc m

1.) 19 Apr 2019 14:57:01
Saying Colback not that good,he was playing out of position.hes been our best cm this season by keep making the excuses up.

2.) 19 Apr 2019 14:58:47
I like the optimism Doc
Wasn’t impressed with Sheffield United but we were never going to win without some one that can make a final pass
Some one that can cross a ball
Players that take a chance when it arrives
We have non of the above

3.) 19 Apr 2019 15:44:23
My point re Colback was not good enough to warrant £50,000 / week when you have other options. The only ones I would keep are; Byram, Milosevic, Wague, Pantillion , Yacob, Yates , Fig , Osborn, Watson , Walker ,Grant , Grabban , Lolley. These next 3 matches Forest need to get a core to the side and build on that. Pele I like but gave the ball away again today leading to the goal. Benoloune is a liability. Cash will not ever play in the premier league. I welcome other suggestions as to how MoN would have won today

4.) 19 Apr 2019 16:01:10
Doc maybe if Martin played Yacob and Colback in midfield instead of Yates and Pele Robinson at Left back Milosovic from the start
And Carvalho
We might have had a better chance

5.) 19 Apr 2019 16:02:52
Sorry to throw a spanner in that Doc m but if it were me I'd have put Johnson up front with Appiah in the first half; I bet Gary Brazil would have. We have nothing at all to gain or lose now, so get some young guns blooded and build a spine in the team that will mature and improve. The old stagers have had their day.

6.) 19 Apr 2019 16:08:51

7.) 19 Apr 2019 16:22:01
Bsered, warburton attempted this , it was woeful , can you offer some hope as to why it would any different with the ones we have now?

8.) 19 Apr 2019 16:45:00
You get nothing out of a midfield that has Cash,Pele and Yates absolutely nothing. Yacob about the only player who can hold his head up.

9.) 19 Apr 2019 16:48:32
Got to agree 2 star,some thinkthis us a good squad,it isn't

10.) 19 Apr 2019 20:30:55
It’s dross FF



15 Apr 2019 09:30:32
Benny O has had his car window smashed by an act of malicious vandalism. £4.50 stolen according to the Post. Benny is a young man learning his trade in football who is a Red through and through. Does a lot of charity work and gives his all every game he has the opportunity. I hope this was a random event but I suspect not.

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13 Apr 2019 20:25:47
MoN tried a new formula, on the whole it worked. Byram was good as was Pele 75% of the time. Pants is a good goal keeper but does not come out for crosses. Grabban has been off for 6 weeks and remember how long it took him to get going at the beginning! I feel we must keep this side largely together. There is no way we should contemplate ever changing this manager till the end of the next season. Does no one remember what has happened to this club over the last 20 years. STABILITY both in the TEAM, MANAGEMENT and OWNER are the only way this club will ever improve in STATUS and position.

doc m

1.) 13 Apr 2019 21:05:39
You say it worked doc. Blimey pal. Did you actually watch that abysmal first half?

2.) 13 Apr 2019 21:09:26
As far as rich owners are concerned stability comes with success.My guess is it will continue to be all change until we stumble across a winning formula or the owner cuts his losses.

3.) 13 Apr 2019 21:44:50
You get ten out of ten for me perks

4.) 13 Apr 2019 21:46:36
Doc how can you say pants is a good keeper but don't come out for crosses ????a good goal keeper is westwood at sheff wed if you saw him tonight against leeds you will know what i mean.

5.) 13 Apr 2019 21:48:19
Doc. it didn't work. It was dreadful.



10 Apr 2019 15:42:13
Some on this site say our squad needs severe pruning. I would remind them a team forms over a season at least. If we keep changing both manager and team every year we will remind as a championship side for eternity. The players in this current squad have been here around a year. They were the team that beat Sheffield United, Derby, drew or won ( Leeds ) ( WBA ) Norwich AV need I go on further? So this is a capable squad that AK had moulded into the start of a team and they played as such. Something went amiss and we lost a few so MoN came in. He more than anyone understands the team principle but it's all seemed to have got confused again. So we have a group of players that know how to win. To change the squad again will not work. Remember what they say about a workman and his tools. We see how Steve Bruce took the same group of players and they win or draw 9 on the trott. QPR appoint the wrong manager and down they go. SU appoint a blades fan who with elderly strikers I hope will get promoted. AV sack Steve B and up they go! So unless they sack MON now ( unlikely ) we should see out the 2020 season with them. Unless anyone has better plans!

doc m

1.) 10 Apr 2019 16:16:30
Doc we all want the best for our teams and you are right it's a poor league.
If you take a look at Boro six defeats in the trot and yet pullis is still there I can imagine the comments on here is that was us?
The squad we have will be dismantled anyway as a lot were only bought in on 18 month contracts or loans.
So it was never put together with a thought for the future,just a quick fix

2.) 10 Apr 2019 17:43:13
Dismantled and dismembered with some of the players we have FF.
We need players who actually want to play instead of turning up for a shift amd their overpaid wages.

3.) 10 Apr 2019 17:56:22
I think that is the remit Tommy Johnson. Martin says he trust's him to find the right players.

4.) 10 Apr 2019 17:59:54
Coud'nt agree more fawaz,how do you motivate a player who is coming to the end of their career and has taken a wage drop to come here?
Just picking up one last pay check.
If you get promotion they know they'll be dispensed with,so there's nothing in it for them to perform

5.) 10 Apr 2019 18:44:45
FF exactly. Enough said.

6.) 11 Apr 2019 06:30:29
You motivate them by offering ludicrous long contacts on extortionate amounts of money and free drinks and buffalo wings from hooters for life. 💰🤑😂😂🍻



02 Apr 2019 08:35:40
Grealish comes back into the team AV change direction, Mount and Derby do the same . Do we have a mid field game changer waiting to power us on up into the play offs?

doc m

1.) 02 Apr 2019 11:24:59
JC maybe,has the talent

2.) 02 Apr 2019 14:02:33
Joe Lolley seems to be doing ok?




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25 Mar 2019 18:23:43
Colback is good but not upto Grealish’s standard . We have plenty of midfielders. So he either accepts whatever a good player at our club gets say Grabban /,Lolley or he goes. Who could blame Britt for moving for a better wage, one more injury to that knee and he is out vis a vis CC. The club wishes promotion without Colback it will still happen without Lolley it is a lot less likely

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17 Feb 2019 09:45:36
I agree VAR is the answer. But I believe a side as in Cricket and Hockey should be limited to two requests each per half

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13 Dec 2018 07:17:04
My view Defoe is the same type of player as Grabban, Appiah ie relatively diminutive! However I trust AK to make the right decision.

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21 Sep 2018 20:46:45
All the recent managers of different football persuasions had Osborn in their team. To me he gives his all for the club in a Chris Cohen manner. Benny will score goals but his assists are equally important. A future captain of our club when we are in the premier league following CC,s footsteps - but I hope not injuries

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13 Sep 2018 15:44:48
It should not be difficult to restrict goals against. Most on this site were against dariwika and Osborn but they have been replaced largely. The centre backs have changed as everyone considered Worrall a liability. So Steele needs to replace Pants or they need to all up their game. Grabban is a proven goal scorer in the premier league. Given the correct service he will score in the teens. This side has all the correct elements in place and especially a manager who needs our support

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23 Apr 2019 07:31:34
Maybe Wolves is an exception but most teams are promoted when they have been near or in the play offs the previous season. Sheffield, Bristol City, Leeds and Derby are prime examples. 3 of these will be more determined next season. Their teams play more consistently over the season. Our season was inconsistent sometimes beating the best and losing to the worst ! If . we can win 3 matches on the trot to end I will be more optimistic for the playoffs next season and of course with MoN as our manager all season.

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22 Apr 2019 21:56:13
Excellent report

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22 Apr 2019 19:23:12
Maybe Carvalho listened to MoN!! He was I agree exceptional and not like I ever seen him play all season. In part it was Osborn, Lolley Grabban who knew what pass he was going to make. I cannot remember the last time I saw such individual skills at the City Ground ! If that shot had gone in instead of hitting the post ? Also a complete display of a team player who was not after personal glory. To say we should build our team around him so they anticipate the killer pass which is his skill. I feel more optimistic about the next season but as they say one swallow doesn’t make a summer

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21 Apr 2019 06:36:31
I agree a good summary of the match. I think if Ed agrees there is a job for Creepy as match reporter

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{Ed001's Note - I definitely would agree with that.}



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19 Apr 2019 18:23:21
If we loose the next 3 matches we will be back to relegation fodder next season.Today , Wigan away 10 men beat Leeds, Swansea ( home ) narrowly beat Rotherham , WBA narrowly beat Hull , Reading ( away ) draw with Bristol City. I am not optimistic we will have a team at the moment that could beat Mansfield possibly draw with Notts County. Somebody give me a reason to be optimistic. No more Portuguese players please

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