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24 Feb 2018 14:34:54
That's a small looking line up we've put out. I would imagine QPR will be chucking plenty of crosses into our penalty area for Smith who is very good in the air. I'd imagine they'll target Osborn in particular.


1.) 24 Feb 2018 16:33:03
Seem to be doing alright anyway mate!!!

2.) 24 Feb 2018 16:58:22
As I said the other day, if we played football like we did in the second half it wouldn’t be long before we smashed some teams.

Let them build it from here, but it’s looking pretty good to me

3.) 24 Feb 2018 20:32:46
Lesson in life the whole is better than the sum of the individual parts and that gets results.
Karanka has now got a team playing rather than playing individuals who on paper are better?
Clougie did the same!
Onward and upward.



26 Jan 2018 19:13:32
According to Sky sports we're interested in Tim Cahill. Seems a strange one to me.


1.) 26 Jan 2018 19:32:05
Have we been taken over by Millwall?

2.) 26 Jan 2018 19:39:54
You have mixed it up, they say Millwall have offered him a contract about 2 hours ago.

3.) 26 Jan 2018 20:41:34
10 yrs too late. Was a cracking player.

4.) 26 Jan 2018 20:48:03
It's all over sky and fox sport Australia that we are going to hijack Cahill from Millwall, i hope not at 38 i think he's past it rather have de Oliveria ⚓

5.) 26 Jan 2018 23:15:10
Tim Cahill, 38, needs competitive football because of his last world cup. 6 month contract, model pro, will score goals and not as daft as it seems. A serious option if Vaughny keeps getting niggling injuries. No, I'm being serious.😉

6.) 27 Jan 2018 01:52:49
I've seen him on tv regularly in Asia playing for the Aussies, believe me he's still got it
Scores goals, winds up defences, no worries!

7.) 29 Jan 2018 11:14:11
I'd be happy to take him until the end of the season. Although the A League is not the same as the championship he still packs a punch. Also a little old at 39 my fav has to be Archie Thompson who played for my Aus team Melbourne Victory, still as fit as a butchers dog 90 goals in 229 apps.



10 Sep 2017 20:10:06
It doesn't seem to matter which defenders play, the result is still the same, no organisation and chaotic defending. Simply bringing in another CB would not have solved our problems. It's something that can only be put right by the manager and his coaching staff. Deciding whether we go with a back 5 or back 4 and then sticking to it week in week out would be a start, then drop zonal marking and going man to man marking should help at set pieces.

The leadership qualities of Lichaj should make him a regular in the team and I fail to see what Darwikra has done to keep last year's player of the season out of the team. You would think David Weir should know how to set up a defence. At least the Matt Mills haters can't blame him for yesterday!


1.) 11 Sep 2017 04:59:52
I think a vocal cb to pull other 3 into place and take charge would make a world of difference

2.) 11 Sep 2017 08:15:39
You are so right but been saying it all along, good luck with the response.

3.) 11 Sep 2017 09:37:29
I understand the reasoning behind playing the ball out from the back (If you hoof it then the vast majority of the time the ball goes to the opposition) but can we just play it forward quicker from the back in the same way that Liverpool do? 3 passes out and the ball should not be near the Penalty Area it should be near the half way line (unless we are playing against Beckham then it is doubtful that the opponents can shoot from there)

4.) 11 Sep 2017 12:07:29
We have to be able to mix the way we play, yes playing from the back and possession football is easy on the eye but not if we lose the ball and concede goals. As a defender, if in doubt get it out, better decision making against Leeds and S.Weds may have yielded an extra point or two. I agree about moving the ball quicker too, the longer we take the more time the opposition has to arrange their defence. Problem for Smith is this exposes his poor distribution, time to take him out of the firing line and give us the option of breaking quickly. This style would suit away games and against the better sides at home, just a realistic opinion based on our mid table expectations? FTID

5.) 11 Sep 2017 12:55:59
we don't look well drilled to me, set peices need to be drilled and drilled, and for me need to start marking more man to man instead of more zonal.

beyond me why a steady defender lichaj isn't starting, darikwa a liability to me.

6.) 11 Sep 2017 16:27:16
I'd like to see this defence given time to gel
Licha Manchienne Hobbs/worrell troare
Hobbs if he's fit. Then Vaughen bridgcutt holding
With Mackey dowel osbourn. And Murphy upfront.

7.) 11 Sep 2017 20:04:00
Playing the ball out the way we do, which is giving it to the first defender is suicide. That defender should then knock it it deep into midfield. No we lass it sideways which allows the opposition to get at us causing nervousness. Playing it long to a decent striker ie murphy or velios allows the defence tobpysh up and get bsck in formation. Simples. If the ball does come straight back we shouldbe organised to deal with it. Playing it out from the back is pk in the prem where the opposition strikers will back off. not in this league.

8.) 11 Sep 2017 20:24:29
Rr1. The longer you pass the ball the more likely it is to be intercepted, or for it to go astray. A player should run then pass, then move again, and off course a players pass needs to be accurate.

9.) 11 Sep 2017 21:43:56
Abf correct but we gave possesion to weds in dreadful areas which led to goals. Listen. Pearce would often take the ball from sutton, webb ot hodge would show for him and an early accurate pass from pearce would get us moving forward. Not this pish from sat where the ball was nervously batted about with no conviction. Play to your strengths. Fox worral and darikwa were terrified in posession.

10.) 13 Sep 2017 10:01:41
We certainly need to sort out the back. I personally think Darikwa is a decent solid back, i can remember the beginning of the last two seasons fans saying Lichaj was a liability when we were leaking goals. Keep Darikwa on the right, Lichaj can play on the right with Mancienne and another in the middle, Worral or Fox.

11.) 13 Sep 2017 10:08:33
Ooops, I meant Lichaj can play on the left!



07 Mar 2017 23:51:29
We're stuck with GB until the end of the season and hopefully there's 3 teams worse than us. GB has done brilliantly with the youth set up but doesn't have the tactical nous at this level. His one tactic is to set up a hard working team who are happy to let the opposition have the ball and hope that we can hold out for an hour then nick a goal. This worked against Brighton and got us a point against Wigan. I expect much the same against Burton. The frustrating thing is that we are much better when we go on the attack which doesn't usually happen until we're chasing the game. I would like to see us have a go from the off and play with a high tempo and some pace out wide, particularly at home. Make no mistake we are in a relegation battle and I can see it going right to the wire this season. Fingers crossed we have enough to stay up.


1.) 08 Mar 2017 07:40:38
We have a five point cushion, that does not mean we do not have to worry to some extent, but the reason any team is in, or around the relegation struggle is because they are drawing, and losing too many games.

All the teams below us would love to be where we are, with a five point cushion. As long as it is in our own hands we are ok to think about Championship football next season.

2.) 08 Mar 2017 10:35:24
Tomorrow mate, that "cushion" will soon evaporate if we get beat and all of a sudden it can be potentially 2! We don't have the balls for a fight, and Brazil's not the guy. Never was, when he takes over its up and down. Mostly down.

3.) 08 Mar 2017 11:07:32
Rogie Red

Im not trying to say Brazil is right for the job, and off course the 5 point lead could easily evaporate but the bottom three teams do not have that luxury, so when they lose they get deeper in the mire unless others slip up.

I would rather have the 5 point lead than not.

4.) 08 Mar 2017 12:55:08
When GB and JL took over, we had played 26 games and had 27 points, obviously a fraction over 1 point per game.

Since then, we have played 10 and have picked up 13 points, that's 1.3 points.

We were 20th, we are now 18th.

We were 3 points above the bottom 3, we are now 5.

Now I'm not saying that no one else could have done better than that. But I am saying.

1. Under GB and JL we are moving away from relegation, not towards it (I'll add the caveat of CURRENTLY)
2. Anyone that could do a better job, doesn't want the job, at least until they know what division we are in next season!

So, we live with what we have and be grateful for it!

5.) 08 Mar 2017 14:29:33
If we continually play a slow, unfit Britt, up front on his own. We will definitely be outscored. Leading us further down the league, into a relegation scrap, let's take the game TO the opposition! And stop showing THEM, too much respect! The only way we will get out of this message is to play our pacey players, "Hilda"and The lad we got from Chesterfield. from back to front, we must have one of the slowest teams in this league, and I think opposing teams know this. And exploit this weakness, week in week out!

6.) 08 Mar 2017 19:51:19
We have skill and pace in Clough, Brereton and Ariyibi. Play all 3 and opposition defences will not cope.

7.) 08 Mar 2017 21:42:25
Agreed mate. When they aren't playing we are a slow as a wet weekend!



06 Mar 2017 21:40:56
on his way to Rosenborg.


1.) 06 Mar 2017 22:08:26
Done deal wasted his talent.

2.) 06 Mar 2017 23:22:12
There is a God! Absolutely useless, good luck Rosenborg!

3.) 06 Mar 2017 23:40:10
Thank you Mr Bendtner for your contribution. Had we had a stronger midfield this season playing you up top with another striker would have got the best out you and the team.

For me you have nothing to prove just the right type of player at the wrong time! Good Luck.

4.) 07 Mar 2017 08:21:41
possibly the laziest player i've ever seen in a Forest shirt. Good riddance.

5.) 07 Mar 2017 08:30:33
I hope that's McParland getting rid of the crocs. Dumitru and Kasami next please.

6.) 07 Mar 2017 10:21:50
Both Dumitri and Kashmir on season long loans. No chance of getting rid of them.

7.) 07 Mar 2017 10:25:46
Great to have him off the wage bill, even better if we managed to get a small fee for him too.

8.) 07 Mar 2017 12:45:15
Dont think Bendtner was ever the man for an ailing lower Championship club famous for its inability to create scoring chances, lack of width and supporting central midfield.

That said, we have a 17 year old striker who's putting Bendtners application levels to shame. Lack of service is a genuine gripe, but the fact he didn't move or try something different to influence the game sticks in the throat given his pedigree.

He's better off somewhere else for all concerned.

9.) 07 Mar 2017 14:20:34

That makes it a great effort to have beaten Brighton 3-0 in our last game, what score could it have been had we a strong midfield that could supply our forwards.

10.) 07 Mar 2017 14:57:30
The Brighton result was primarily a case of us knocking Brighton off their stride. A victory for hard work, endeavour and capitalising on Brightons mistakes.

There was no great footballing philosophy behind it from memory.

11.) 08 Mar 2017 09:01:18
Britt has one shot in 75 minutes against Brentford. Brereton comes on and scores almost straight away - that should tell the management something.

12.) 09 Mar 2017 06:54:33
you can only shoot when you get service in box, it isn't happening. Ward, Osborne Vaughan don't supply enough good balls into box.
Solution don't pay both Ward and Osborne too similar too lightweight.




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22 Apr 2018 11:51:24
We've been awful at set pieces all season (25 goals conceded from them) under both Warburton and Karanka. AK has supposedly sacrificed some attacking threat to make us better defensively and to some degree he has. However he still sticks with zonal marking which leaves the likes of Osborn and Colback marking a six foot plus centre half. This should have been a simple fix but he's done nothing to address the problem and we could all see where the threat was yesterday. The fact that he has not done anything about it does not fill me with the confidence some on here seem to have in him. 1 final point, yes Mancienne was awful and has received a lot of criticism but not many seem to be pointing the finger at Fox for the first goal. He just let Morrison jog past him and gain the space he needed to have a free header. Obviously no longer the scapegoat he used to be with supporters.


1.) 22 Apr 2018 13:27:21
Pass the ball, most of our team are equally is ineffective . Young , old, on loan or permanent - not a great deal to choose between them all



18 Feb 2018 10:58:46
I would have been happy with a point against the bottom club before we'd even kicked off yesterday. That in itself shows how low our expectations have fallen. Under MW we knew we'd probably need to score at least 2 goals to win a game, under AK we will probably need to keep a clean sheet just to get a point. 10 players bought in and we're still playing a right back at left back. The biggest concern is the lack of a goal threat which I don't see improving and the decision to let Cummings and Walker go without bringing in a replacement still baffles me. I have never been one for sacking managers and to be clear I'm not saying get rid of AK but I just don't share some of the optimism in him that some fans do. I think they get hung up on the fact he got Boro promoted but we've had managers in the past that have had success at other clubs but they haven't worked out for us. I think we'll probably just stay up as there's 3 or 4 teams worse than us but even given time I can't see this fella getting us anywhere near promotion. Hope I'm wrong and he shows a bit more attacking flair once we're safe but in the meantime we just all need to get behind him and the team and make sure we're still in this division next season.


1.) 18 Feb 2018 11:14:05
That sounds about right to me passtheball

2.) 18 Feb 2018 12:03:25
Pass the ball, bang on about we’ve had others that have done it. Megson, the deranged Scot and the dour Scot. It’s not a transferable outcome sadly.

I agree that we could score under MW but that the goals were drying up which is what I think did for him. The two limp home performances against weds and Sunderland did for him. If he’d have just one one of them or drawn them both I think he’d have survived.

I actually think we’ve got the same amount of points that we’d have got under MW. So no improvement in outcomes at all and even more painful to watch I think.

3.) 18 Feb 2018 12:30:46
I agree with all of you and have said right from the start i do not like Karanka tactics.
The only way he will survive long term is to change,most fans who sit around me aren't impressed either.
Unfortunately we all know he won't change.
To me he should have kept traore walker Cummings and clough.
Watson geddy and colback plus Lolly ok signings and he had to bring in centre back so ok with that.
The others are a waste and unfit and in the end we are down to the bare bones both up front and in defense while having far too many midfielders who aren't creative or can score.
Think we all need him to succeed but think it's more in hope than any concrete evidence.

4.) 18 Feb 2018 12:37:53
He brought in a lb but need to get him match ready.

5.) 18 Feb 2018 15:23:41
I,ve said it and said L/B should have been his priority not just an after thought.
If you look back over the last 20 years the good runs we,ve had have all been when we,ve had a PROPER left back eg. Shorrey, Bartram ,Cunningham ,ect ,the bad times have been like yesterday ,a man playing out of position.
Let's hope this latest late signing proves to be a real L/B



31 Jan 2018 22:59:10
A striker coming in would be nice. Think we're a little short on firepower at the moment.


1.) 31 Jan 2018 23:10:42



05 Nov 2017 14:53:05
Excellent performance yesterday once we had scored the first goal. Whilst he wasn't the best player on the pitch yesterday I think we look a much better side with Murphy leading the line, Cummins is too small and lightweight to play that role and when Murphy is not available we would be better playing Vellios or Brereton in that position.


1.) 05 Nov 2017 15:43:26
If I’m honest I can’t see Vellios playing for us again. Cummings is a good player but will primarily be used on the wings to do what Walker did yesterday. Brereton could be the best cover for Murphy we have.

I just want to mention Osborn, I’m not usually a big fan as I got frustrated with him a few times but yesterday he deserved a goal and in my opinion was the best player.

2.) 05 Nov 2017 17:54:06
Yes it does look like Vellios is finished but the question is why?
I see he was out on the pitch yesterday shooting in very strange !

3.) 05 Nov 2017 20:18:50
This just a bit of banter carlo,but with your inside imformation regarding Britt,I would have thought your contacts could let you know what's going on with Vellios?

4.) 05 Nov 2017 22:05:30
I,ll ask Frank when I see him.

5.) 05 Nov 2017 22:27:03
That'll be in the Southbank then,when he does his legends thing?lol

6.) 06 Nov 2017 06:50:41
Who's vellios lol think all the players had a good game yesterday teamwork at last



15 Oct 2017 19:35:44
We've tried numerous different combinations in defence but still we keep conceding soft goals. Not all the blame should be put on the defenders, all too often when we lose possession our midfield seems empty and the opposition have a clear run on our defence. I know I'm in a minority but I think Dowell is a luxury player at the moment and we would be better with Osborn in that position. Despite the soft goals I think we were unlucky to lose today. We played well in patches but didn't put our chances away. Derby offered very little but put their chances away. I think we all need to keep positive.





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06 Jul 2018 18:25:16
Nothing against the signing in principal but a 4 year contract at his age surprises me. I suspect his agent has played interested clubs off against one another.




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18 Jun 2018 22:49:32
Think he's vastly over rated. Rarely passes forward, not particularly physical and is no better than Bridcutt. Not that good at all and if he's on silly wages that just makes it worse. Really think we can do better.




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05 Jun 2018 20:33:25
Madison will end up at a premier league club.




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30 May 2018 19:18:33
I'm happy with the Dawson deal as I think he brings experience,leadership qualities and an Ariel presence. Not sure about Marney and for me Colback offered nothing that Bridcutt couldn't do for a fraction of the cost. Think the money could be better spent elsewhere.




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04 Mar 2018 13:30:35
Until we learn how to defend crosses into our box we'll be nowhere near the top six. Yet another goal conceded from a set piece. Vital 3 points yesterday though should pretty much ensure another season in the championship. 3 more points against the sheep please.





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11 Jul 2018 22:58:20
Probably get slated by all those caught up in the euphoria but let's be honest we've beat nobody half decent. Should have been 2 or 3 up at half-time but our "super star" lost his bottle. Even so a tactically astute manager would have recognised we were allowing too many crosses into the box in the second half and would have changed the shape to prevent it. Couldn't help but think that one of the numerous balls into the box would result in a goal. Walker,for all his pace, has never been a centre half and I've always said Stones has a mistake in him (although he's had a good tournament before tonight). A little like a previous manager of ours I don't believe Southgate has a plan B and chose not to take any natural wingers or a big lump that can cause havoc when a team is defending deep. Frustratingly We'll never have a better chance of reaching a final considering who's been knocked out early on and the team's we've faced. For me the standout players have been Maguire, Henderson ( who gets unfair criticism but is virtually on his own in the middle of the park) and Trippier. So,so disappointed. Don't want to think about England anymore, roll on Bristol away!




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26 Jun 2018 22:20:19
I would expect him to join a premier league club.




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18 Jun 2018 22:55:05
Thought Maguire did well apart from 1 mistake. Always a threat from set pieces and bought the ball out well. Take him over Stones any day. Agree about Lingard though. Think we might regret not taking a midfielder that can pick a pass and a natural out and out winger. But come on lads we won an opening world cup game for once so let's just enjoy that tonight.




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11 Apr 2018 20:49:57
What's happened to the left back Karanka bought in? Lichaj out of position is not the answer




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10 Apr 2018 23:23:37
Good post and welcome to the site Robbie. Rather reminiscent of this time last season I find myself looking at the remaining fixtures for the team's below us. I wanted us to stick with the previous manager and I want Karanka to be given time as well but I have to say that for me there have been very few positives since his arrival. We still haven't addressed the issue of defending set pieces. And although we had a few chances tonight I think we still don't get enough balls into the box. I've said it before but the decision to let Cummings and Walker go out on loan without bringing in a striker has left us desperately short of options up front. I think we'll probably stay up,just,but 3 points against a managerless Ipswich side with nothing to play for would calm my nerves.