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24 Oct 2018 06:28:59
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24 Oct 2018 00:50:45
A lot of people moan about our style of play which I agree is a fairly boring style. While we haven’t yet had a great run of games we’ve won, we’ve still picked up points we wouldn’t have done last year.
Here’s my question to the other posters in this site:
Would you rather get promoted playing the way we currently play? Or finish 10th (just as an example) but have exciting high scoring games? (Where we might win 3-2 one game but then lose 3-0 another)
Because I honestly want to see our club back in the big time and if that means we play a defensive style of football then so be it.

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23 Oct 2018 20:28:41
Wonder if the visit was planned as stated just seems funny ak has a bit of a moan at the fans Saturday and he is here by Monday, maybe he has come to do his best Alan sugar impression.

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23 Oct 2018 20:40:03
Red James
I personally do not believe his vist was planned, but that does not mean it was not. AK is must be able to see the axe being sharpened.

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23 Oct 2018 21:07:44
In fairness it's not the worst start to a season my feeling is wins have nearly all had an air of luck about them apart from Middlesbrough, the draws have been close calls at times and the 2 losses were awful displays if your teams plays well and loses it softens the blow, fans seem to think were the only team in transition but we're not just other teams are doing it better, you can't tell me ak's negative tactics don't affect the players they must see the team sheet and think here we go again, were at home why aren't we just all out for the win

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23 Oct 2018 19:45:43
Mr Clough on being asked by the chairman how much he would have paid for Shilton replied "any amount".
He later explained (I believe it was to the press) that Shilton generates confidence throughout the team and this is invaluable to the defenders as they know if they make a mistake he will be there to clear up and this makes them better players.
I myself really do not believe we have a bad defence but they are being made jittery by Pants. If you think about it he has the height to come for crosses. He has hands like frying pans but he insists on punching and seems incapable of collecting a ball. All of this is effecting the back four and he needs dropping to the bench from immediate effect.
On another subject that is being discussed refering the crowd making the players nervous. As a manager for many years and if I had told my director that the customers (that's what paying supporters are) are making me nervous then he would have had my backside out of the door without delay.
Instead of defending them and insulting the supporters AK needs to put his boot up the players backsides

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23 Oct 2018 20:31:45
Mickn
In hindsight which goalkeepers do you think AK should have tried to bring in in the summer?

Indeed realistically which quality goalkeepers would have been tempted to join a team that finished as low in the Championship as Forest did?

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23 Oct 2018 20:38:27
Can AK. Cannot give an opinion on what goalie but what with the owners intent think we could have brought in a decent goalie. Just surprised AK did not and has relied far to much on pants to do the job as he ain't up to it.

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23 Oct 2018 18:27:26
Our owner has let his frustration with the team being so inconsistent get to him. He flew in from Athens to address the team, so it is reported. AK now knows the chop could be very close.

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23 Oct 2018 18:22:47
Marinakis has travelled to have a talk with players and staff. I hope he didn't tell them all to go for a "holiday"!

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23 Oct 2018 20:14:33
He ,ll be also having a word with us being as it is all our fault !
CARLO

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23 Oct 2018 22:09:04
I hope he sends me to Butlins!

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23 Oct 2018 15:18:27
Heard a rumour that AK is to take on the role of cheer leader at next home game !
CARLO

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23 Oct 2018 16:05:06
He'll probably have THEM line up in a 4-2-3-1 formation too!!! 😂😂😂

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23 Oct 2018 16:15:56
He stands in the dug out with his hands in his pockets so he does not understand the concept behind cheerleading. 😅

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23 Oct 2018 17:10:16
I think that you have posted on the wrong page carlo!

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23 Oct 2018 19:13:18
Karankas cheer leader song. Oh yes I'm the great defender.

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23 Oct 2018 19:14:15
Carlo, the leader to make us feel cheerful should try and work a little harder, sometimes he does.

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23 Oct 2018 19:23:32
Gazzibaldi
The songs original title is right at the moment The Great Pretender, he is just pretending to be a good manager at the moment, that is the thought of many at the moment.

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23 Oct 2018 10:04:54
Some observations ; when Mr Warburton was in situ we played in a ' chuckle brothers ' fashion, on Saturday we were still doing this, ' to me, to you to me etc 'all in a very small space. Why? Norwich 's back 4 were all tall and any high ball was always won by them. They were less skilled on the ball but made more effective passes. We had no corners in the second half at all which shows how effective their defence was.

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23 Oct 2018 11:34:17
We didn't have a corner in the first half either, doc. The Norwich defence was effective because we didn't really threaten it after Lolley hit the bar. No attacking impetus but that's to be expected when we play 2 defensive minded midfielders at home.

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23 Oct 2018 11:52:53
Well put doc m. Their lies the issue. When up against a big back four you need pace and guile to get them turning. You need presence in your striker and midfielders getting beyond the striker. Murphy has presence no pace and is out too often. Carvalaho cannit play the number 10 role as he drifts too much and comes very deep. Lolley is our biggest threat but he has to cut in and run across their back four. Cash when employed plays wide wher his pace and strength is better through the middle.
Our back four is beginning to fall apart again. Not dealing with crosses and losing concentration its a shame fox is not 4 inches taller. Dawson should play, even at 34 he is mobile and good in the air.
If one up top and 2 holding is all that AK can offer then its pretty poor.we are getting found out and he seemingly lacks the versatility to adapt to situations. One dimmension no direction Karanka.

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23 Oct 2018 14:02:52
I think he needs to play guediora. Carvalho is coming deep because Watson and Colback sit deep so he needs to retrieve the ball. Guediora would bring the ball out and has a good range of passing. There’s no point harping on about Norwich we can’t change the result. Learning from mistakes is important. I think Cash will help us, as will Dias it might be worth having cash play centrally with Lolley get that Christmas tree formation going, it’s almost the season for it!

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23 Oct 2018 15:22:14
What has happened to Tachtsidis and Yacob have they been put out to pasture with Bridcutt and Yates?

Maybe we are waiting to blood them against the mighty Brewers in the Cup!

How AK can continue to ignore these 4 players when anybody with half an eye can see that Watson and Colback just isn't working.

I haven't even mentioned Gued as he seems to be out of AK'S good books at the moment

Tachtsidis is 6'4'' and a physical player but has a pass in him and Yacob likes a tackle ffs give them a go in what is going to be a physical battle at Bolton tomorrow.

I hope we see changes in that powder puff midfield that Norwich simply dismantled on Saturday

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22 Oct 2018 23:54:56
If you cannot take responsibility for raising the roof for 90 mins come what may and making it Fortess Forest then please can you all DO ONE at the next home game?

Apart from the vocal few in A Block the ground is like a library. The Trent End is a shadow of its former self.

The East Stand might as well be on the East Coast for all the noise it makes. Oh sorry that was when it made some noise BC would not recognise than his manor!

As for the Bridgford End 200 away fans make more noise than those with their feet up watching the video screen!

Where are you? You hardly sing when you're winning!

COYR's.

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23 Oct 2018 06:07:06
So you are happy to pay good money to watch us being played off the park then Redinexile? Poor performances, poor managerial decisions, underachieving promise. I for one won’t sing along to that dross. You can clap and sing along if you want but it won’t make Krankie stop being stubborn and playing the way he does and keep picking the same players that he does.

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23 Oct 2018 07:15:27
Redinexile what a horrible thjng to say on here. Since seating has been installed most home grounds have become quieter. Most away fans ignore the stewards and are allowed to stand up.
That aside crtiticising your own fans when its the manager who is picking a dross team and playing awful football is poor form and you should apologise. I have never witnessed a more negative approach to setting a team up than AK does. I hope the fans DO turn on him now he deserves it for his beligerance in picking weak, lightweight players over grafters and experience.

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23 Oct 2018 07:16:31
You don't go regularly redinexile so your comments mean nothing to us regular season card holders.
6 wins from 17 championship games,hardly inspires us to chant from the rooftops.
Karanka needs to up his game at home 9r do one,not the fans.

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23 Oct 2018 07:56:39
Red if you went regularly like those of us with season cards you would be able to comment on the awful negative football he provides.
His tactics and reliance on older age players with no energy is a problem.

The football this season other than 60 mins v WBA and 10 mins v Norwich has been enough to cure anyone’s insomnia let alone encourage singing.

He is blessed with 22k season card holders and a full house, serves up rubbish and then blames the atmosphere. Total clown. Still awaiting his apology.

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23 Oct 2018 08:38:32
Seems to be a lot of entitlement here. Some people can’t go every week either through finances, health or distance. People don’t have more or less of an opinion or are more or less of a fan because they attend games. I feel like more of a fan now that I don’t go because I watch more content, subscribe to all of the things I can afford to and when I do am more appreciative of the whole team and squad because it’s unusual for me. If you go every week it becomes less special, so people get jaded. I understand both sides of the debate, it’s whether you see yourself as a supporter or a customer. If you’re a supporter you’re giving the club money and want to help the team, if you’re a customer you’re paying for the performance and expect the team to turn up. Both views are correct in my opinion. I think the best analogy would be if your boss is demanding work to be done you’ll resent it more than if your boss is asking and encouraging you to do something. We’re the boss in this scenario and I think Karanka is feeling it.

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23 Oct 2018 09:12:13
Apart from Pompey and Coventry there are no more long suffering fans than Forest.Yet all these three teams are blessed with loyal fans who turn up home and away week in week out, so to be criticised for lack of support for our team is an insult.

AK has the squad to excite but he chooses not to use it! How is that the supporters fault.

Arrogant,self opinionated,stubborn and a man who has favourites HE needs to change in order to get the best out of his players NOT the fans

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23 Oct 2018 09:39:24
I think a bit of a reality check is in order. We beat a team that will finish top 6 before the break and moved into the play-offs, we then lose to a team that will finish top 6 and dropped out.

If we were in the bottom half I could understand it it, sure it's frustrating not to win when you are 1-0 up after 5 mins but think people are going over the top. I think we are still improving steadily, before Sat unbeaten in 7. Sure we will have a few more disappointing games by the end of the season but think we are a good shout for top 6.

Hopefully we can put things right again against Bolton and get all 3 points.

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23 Oct 2018 09:47:31
Floresta no mate some people can’t get every week that’s accepted but if you don’t see a game or experience whether the atmosphere is good or bad you are not really entitled to lecture the people who were there and expo it 1st hand not being able to attend is 1one thing lecturing those who do go is another

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23 Oct 2018 09:48:30
Whatever anyone says, the atmosphere isn’t and never has been great at home. A few pockets of fans try and we’ve had some great games but it’s certainly not the norm. We have quite an old fan base and haven’t had much to encourage youngsters to get involved. The club can turn it round and get a new generation of more boisterous, vocal fans in but we do need to see positives, effort and commitment consistently from the players and management - we just aren’t getting that at the moment.

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23 Oct 2018 10:11:44
Munmad pompey more long suffering? They won a cup and had a fair run in the prem while we been languishing, even
cov had a much longer run in the prem than us

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23 Oct 2018 10:31:11
Statetheobvious unbeaten in 7 before Saturday how many draws in the 7 ? These days with 3 points for a win a draw is almost as bad as losing especially at home,the great win at boro means very little taking 1 point out of 6 either side at home

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23 Oct 2018 10:37:38
Anyway I don't give a damn you can all do one I'm going for a pint anyone coming lol 😆😎

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23 Oct 2018 10:47:50
Skegsjay count me in on that one!

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23 Oct 2018 11:14:32
These discussions would be so much better over a pint or three 🍻

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23 Oct 2018 11:31:08
I wouldn't apologise to a snowflake if I was him.

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23 Oct 2018 11:32:11
redinexile, if you attended regular like most of the people your having a go at I could nearly take you seriously, your messiah Ak is turning trips to the city ground into a chore. games used to be the highlight of the weekend, few beers with mates ( alldayer) such is his dull approach to home games is little wonder the crowd struggle for enthusiasm.

asff779 has said when your keeper booked just after halftime for time wasting at home its sums up the lack of intent. I know a lot of the lads who make the noise in A block consider them mates most go everywhere with forest, they could lecture me for not singing enough, not really prepared to take it from a bloke that hardly goes and doesn’t witness the dour home set up 1st hand.

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23 Oct 2018 11:56:19
I see the worm has turned again after a loss.

Last week we were going up. What happened, lads?

This site has more flip-flops than Skeggy beach.

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23 Oct 2018 11:57:49
Last time i checked we were 3 points off 18th

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23 Oct 2018 12:10:08
Steve you ever been Skeggy beach more like trainers and if the manager so Jekyll and Hyde the fans wouldn't be another beer please barman 😆

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23 Oct 2018 12:14:14
Sswe what happened was another dismal home performance it’s no good beating boro and taking 1 point out of 6 from millwall and Norwich at home going goals up and gifting teams points with negative substitutes. and baffling team selections doesn’t help

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23 Oct 2018 12:22:25
Pint sounds great to me!!! (Black Stuff please!!) 🍺🍺🍺

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23 Oct 2018 12:30:45
Skegsjay yep mate been to jolly old skeg not for a long time though is “the ship” still there lol

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23 Oct 2018 12:40:57
Yes it's a listed building in skegs for all the drinkers lol

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23 Oct 2018 16:51:14
I've sunk a few in the ship!

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23 Oct 2018 18:12:13
Hope they don,t serve Super Bock ,like most Portugese things it,s got no kick!
CARLO

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23 Oct 2018 19:11:51
I have ears and attend enough games around the Championship to back up the fact that the City Ground for all of you spouting righteous indignation is a library compared with many other grounds where fans with less expectation make more noise throughout the game NO MATTER whether or not they are being "entertained"!

We start each half with that rather curious rallying call of Mull of Kintyre then sit back and only respond to the action on the pitch instead of raising the roof when the going gets tough!

It seems I am in good company as even Pep says Man City will not win the Champions League without the fans raising their game at matches.

So it's time to get heads out from under the seats step up to the plate and expend as much energy over 90 mins singing as the lads do running! At least that way you deserve a beer after the match whatever the result?

Onward & Upward

COYR's

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23 Oct 2018 19:45:44
Suttonswonkyeye don't you just know it.

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23 Oct 2018 19:52:11
Redinexile mull of kintyre at forest no more curious than you’ll never walk alone at Liverpool,( a song from a 50’musical, Annie’s song at bra mall lane,Delilah at stoke,the liquiddator at wolves, and your wrong since all seaters came in most grounds resemble a library nowadays hence Roy keanes famous quote about old Trafford

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23 Oct 2018 22:07:19
Red the city ground comes alive with exciting football,as do all grounds,how many clubs fans turn up the volume when they are struggling?and with your vast experience of the club's,who are they?
We aren't used to watching negative football at the city ground,it's not in our DNA.
Negative football is only accepted by fans if results are good,which they aren't.
Com8ng away from the ground you can hear fans saying they're fed up with one striker and two holding midfielders,a clown of a goalie,they aren't blind and they aren't happy with what's on offer.
You seem to have blind faith in karanka just because he got Boro promoted,your local side,his style is awful and results are poor,you keep telling us how good he is and you stated he'd play three at the back and was open to tactical changes,37 games on and we have only seen one formation,the Boring one.
Now Mr marinakas is over he needs to improve fast,even the wally with the brolly has gone above us tonight.

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22 Oct 2018 21:31:19
Why is everyone so loyal to Karanka? His record since he took over last season has been awful. I haven’t seen any impunder him.

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22 Oct 2018 21:53:08
Nobody being loyal to him were being loyal to forest managers players come and go were a lot better off now than under fawaz so let's keep it that way

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22 Oct 2018 23:45:27
Same reason Clougie was loyal to your hero Woan. He is a class act who has improved our club and got rid of most of the deadwood!

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23 Oct 2018 07:23:45
Got rid of the deadwood??? Some good players simply loaned out because they had a bit of flair and were not yes men to krankie. Our wage bill must be huge and is anyone other than lolley any better than what AK has brought in for tens of millions???? We have skme proper deadwood in the team now. And skeggs where we are better than under fawaz is all behind the scenes. We don't pay to watch good admin we pay to see the product on a saturday and frankly its worse. But you are right managers and players come and go Forest we are through and through.

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23 Oct 2018 10:38:28
Redinexile woan cost 100 grand from Runcorn I think don’t think he needed quite as much patience or time to ‘gell’ as these Portuguese lads are taking, a left foot any of the 3 of them could only dream of ,100 grand or 13.2mll I know who I would sooner have,the difference between a master manager and a plodder

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22 Oct 2018 21:12:54
Oh I get it now. Karanka has just explained himself.

Apparently he was unhappy with the fans getting frustrated with Pants, who when receiving the ball from Darikwa proceeded to belt it straight at Osborns head.

Apparently they had been practising that in training. The fact that 3 times out of 4 in the first half it sailed straight into the crowd is because Osborn is not very tall.

Karanka is losing the plot! It will end in tears!

Anyway a much taller ROBINSON will be available Wednesday when hopefully we will win!

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22 Oct 2018 23:54:14
Love that one NorthNotts.

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