Nottingham Forest Banter

16 Apr 2024 12:13:41
Chelsea showed how to turn Wverton over their glaring weakness is their full backs Young and Coleman both have been good in their time but have lost 2 yds of pace now!

Elanga and Williams down the right and CHO and Aina on the left should tear them apart Tarkowski and Branthwaite are dangerous from set pieces so Boly has to play

Sels

Williams
Boly
Murrilo
Aina

Dominguez
Danilo

Elanga
MGW
Hudson Odoi

Wood

Subs Turner Obamadele Yates Sangare Tavares
Montiel Reyna Riberio.

16 Apr 2024 13:02:29
I’d go with that team Munmad. I think Boly is injured but I’d always prefer him in to compensate for Murillos lack of height.
It will be tough though. Everton collectively and individually were poor and even Pickford looked like Turner. You just know he will play a blinder on Sunday. On the plus side I would think MGW will be licking his lips at how much space young Palmer was given last night.

16 Apr 2024 13:12:32
Good call with that team hope Nuno agrees with you.

16 Apr 2024 15:26:07
They look purposeful and strong going forward. Beto might be fancying his chances Sunday lunchtime. PS. Did Pickford really clap his hands above his head after conceding that goal? Why?

16 Apr 2024 15:29:41
I would put Reyna instead of HO. He does not pass and tries to hard to take on 2 or 3 players. I think if you look at the stats he has no assists and few goals. You can perhaps see why he has failed at a number of clubs. I suspect we signed him on his agents recommendation and maybe the thought SC would get out of him what no one else has.

16 Apr 2024 15:48:34
What wouldn’t I give to have a giant warrior for this dog fight of a run in, someone who bleeds Nottingham Forest and will willingly put his body on the line and is also a born leader, know anyone who fits the bill?
CARLO.

16 Apr 2024 15:50:48
Season ticket renewals just been posted, thankfully they’ve kept the old format. but still a big price hike mines gone up over 50 pounds, and we still don’t know what div we will be in next season. 10, 000 on the waiting list apparently already. So that’s 100, 000 pounds in the coffer for nothing.

16 Apr 2024 15:52:00
Not at our club mate no, sadly in the top league you do have to have enough talent to play at this level as well and I don’t believe we have a player with all those attributes. That means we have plenty of commitment but very little talent, where we have talent we lack the spirit you describe above.

16 Apr 2024 16:52:19
Munmad in my opinion that middle 2 would get overpowered, if ever there is a game for Ryan it’s Everton away.

16 Apr 2024 07:39:33
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Liverpool v Crystal Palace - A Quick Liverpool Perspective

16 Apr 2024 13:14:46
Another interesting read Ed 1. Like you I was surprised that Klopp didn’t wait until the end of the season to announce his departure. The last thing you want at the business end of the season is uncertainty for the future.
Tactically I think Liverpool missed the bravery of the youngsters too. Palace worked very very hard to their credit. All is not lost as Arsenal were unexpectedly defeated. It could be like Black Week in the Boer War where the British Army suffered 3 defeats in a week ( Stormberg, Magersfontein and Colenso) but went on to win the War. They realised they had underestimated their opponents, changed tactics and did sensible things like issued modern rifles to their cavalry units instead of lances, used long range modern artillery and balloons to reconnoiter. Liverpool might well turn the corner tactically in a similar way, become more mobile and not just think they have to turn up to achieve victory ( especially at Anfield and after being given a football lesson in the Europa ).

{Ed001's Note - I would love to think you are right, but I can't see it. Lijnders has Klopp's ear and he is tactically useless but too far up his own arse to see it.}

15 Apr 2024 22:17:35
Had a big win at Mecca this afternoon then went to pick my new personalised plates up then called in the Larwood and Voce for a nice tea, couple of pints before headed home to watch my 65 TV while the wife checks my accounts and pensions.
Similarly day tomorrow.
CARLO.

16 Apr 2024 06:14:00
That doesn't suprise me Carlo and I bet you did all that on your free bus pass 🤣.

16 Apr 2024 10:48:13
oh no, i, ve got a brand new car or we have a Taxi
CARLO.

16 Apr 2024 11:42:40
Don't know what you've got against pensioners skegs. When you retire in 20yrs time ( be about 75yrs old to qualify by then 🤣) You can go to bingo every afternoon session 🤣🤣🎈.

15 Apr 2024 08:25:56
There is a rumour that Newcastle will bid for MGW. Every player has his price. My major worry is the current recruiting team at the club and the influence the manager might have. Look at what we did with BJs funds. The number of players bought that never played, the salaries that they took with them. The money from MGW will on the past record be completely wasted I always suspected if SC got another job, MGW would follow however all is quiet regarding SC. We shall see but the vultures are gathering.

15 Apr 2024 08:58:34
Doc we are undoubtedly a very badly run club. Mr M, for all his investment, has spaffed loadsamoney on, at best, mediocre players who have hardly contributed ( Bowler, Mbe So, Dennis etc) or players who are clearly past their best and in the twilight of their careers ( Lingard, Felipe ( although we got one vital season out of him) Turner, Vlach and don't even get me started on Lingard. ) Mr M, with his impetuous nature, has led him to try to run before he can walk. So, abandons the successful model under Dane Murphy ( recruit young, talented players on the rise who can be, if necessary, sold on to balance the books in hand with investment in our Academy. Of course, SC was recruited with this in mind. Mr M is the worst kind of owner in many respects flip flopping between strategies.
I was reminded looking at Wolves on Saturday how they had coped with FFP by selling one or two key players like Jimenez to balance the books then re building. Not only are they comfortably mid table but don’t have any points deductions. That’s how a club should be run in the spectacularly unfair Premiership set up. Proceed with caution and build up slowly and avoid disaster.
I’ll bet if one of the big man’s captains had warned him that one of his super tankers was heading for an ice berg he would have ordered him to change course!

15 Apr 2024 09:08:31
Good post again Stokey.
A very badly run club. Many awful decisions made and I'm not saying that with hindsight. You could see this mess coming as soon as we got promoted. The owners too over in areas they should leave well alone.

15 Apr 2024 10:24:11
All money from sales should be spent on Quality defensive players young and experienced midfielder's we have and forward we have if we can keep them, still think Dennis is a good lad if coached properly the finance of the club is nothing to do with us really it's his club he's the owner so definitely have a moan but at the decision's but he's the MAN for now anyway.

15 Apr 2024 10:30:31
In a word Vrentroz.
CARLO.

15 Apr 2024 10:41:34
I meant Nunez and Neves, not Jimenez. Gazzi, I personally think we will survive this season with a bit of luck but it will be very very tight, with probably one of the lowest ever points total from the 18th place club. Two wins or even a draw and a win out of the last 5 for us may well be enough.
But it would be ironic if we were relegated by 4 points or less and that would be squarely at Marinkinakos door. Without the deduction we would be on 30 points and reasonably safe with a good buffer. We have an easier run in than Luton I think.

15 Apr 2024 10:44:16
But Jester we fans and our ancestors and those who come after us are the real emotional and spiritual core of the club. For Mr Marinkinakos it’s just a business opportunity.

15 Apr 2024 12:36:52
SR no sensible business man would buy a football club. Big M has piled a load of money into our club. However he has a successful shipping business and as all employs others to run this. His mistake is the choice of lieutenants that has been made, who are I believe Europeans. These have been left to run / ruin our precious club by knowing apparently very little about football. There is no doubt in my mind that if SC. had had is way, Garner, Spence and the other 4 loanees would still be on our books and we would be a team even BJ might still be with us. I know and know folks on this site will say we have as a club moved on. True but we are in the mess with FFP because of what happened post promotion. Apparently a scattergun approach resulted in a hugely bloated squad of poor and has been players. Linguard typifies this and he hasn’t changed and obviously a difficult character. Just this one example, who recruited him, if it was SC I will be eating my hat! The Reds are not unique in having these issues but it all comes down to sadly foreign ownership. Luton, if dare I say it are an example of a potentially better run club who punch well above their weight and have kept their team together. I do think we will survive this season but there has to be a big change to ensure we make progress. Sadly I do not think Nuno will be the one to take us forward but the real problem with our club is the back room guys.

15 Apr 2024 14:17:34
When we won all the cups back in the day I didn't give a toss who owned the club but obviously someone had to pay the wages.

15 Apr 2024 14:19:34
Liverpool fans getting desperate if they think origi is going to score a winner against man city 🤣🤣.

15 Apr 2024 17:05:52
Doc, a good post mate but I’m always amazed how it’s the bosses lieutenants and coaches who get the blame for failure. Surely recruitment is an important part of an owners role? As such he should shoulder some of the blame for our problems.
Marinkinakos personal wealth is estimated at £2.5 billion quid. So, he bought a failing 2nd tier football club from Fawaz for around £50 million. He’s only allowed ( apparently) to invest £35 million a year (£15 million whilst in the Championship ) to cover losses plus probably the same on infrastructure. Getting promotion gets many times that in TV rights ect. So his outlay is basically loose change to him and for that he gets to indulge his football passion/ hobby. To compensate for his ( relatively small) financial losses he gets the kudos, fame and world wide publicity and fame from being a Premier League club owner.
Don’t get me wrong I’m grateful to him for saving our club after the Fawaz era. But to me it seems like a good investment for him and not a philanthropic one. He knows what he’s doing and he’s getting it wrong on so many levels. But, at the end of the day, he will walk away from it and leave us to keep the flame alive and pick up the pieces.

15 Apr 2024 17:27:21
By the way, Mr M does own several Greek media outlets so being on the World stage rather than just the Greek one will be an enormous asset to him. Particularly as he dabbles in Greek politics. AsI say, it’s a good use of ( peanuts) money for him so perhaps he’s a bit slap dash with it. The uncomfortable truth is that our illustrious club is a rich man’s plaything.

15 Apr 2024 21:02:07
It takes a while to get things ticking but all we had to do was sign a good keeper - our keepers have cost us 7 points, maybe more.

15 Apr 2024 22:07:03
Of course the further up the pitch you are the less the mistakes make an impact on the game.

14 Apr 2024 21:07:23
Hope is praying for rain, but faith is bringing an umbrella. " "Once you choose hope, anything's possible. " "Faith is being sure of what we hope for, and certain of what we do not see. " "Some people cannot be cured, but everyone can heal. "
Froggy my friend keep your head up young man.
"Lifes about the loved ones in front of ya with truth and happiness,
Not guessing your passed dreams of history.
The game has changed so much these days.
All we can do young man is hope, hope for decent officials, VAR actually not sure what category they come under, wan##rs for me.
Ya know reds, the game was ours yesterday.
Lets not kid ourselves, all the time of being robbed etc.
Serious mistakes from top to bottom.
A good defender needs pride, passion and fitness, i say this because i worry sometimes how were a one half wonder. I think concentration goes out the door with fitness.
In fact, sorry we all know it.
BBC knackers giving wood a hard time yesterday. For what. Defending. He's been brilliant for us. And yeah could have scored more but, some of his finishes have been f kn clinical,
There's just so much hope in this team reds i swear, it makes me f kn well up. Just no luck. But I'm not going to complain. We've had ours with clough/ taylor and the mighty men with hearts of that era. COYR luv ya.

14 Apr 2024 23:50:46
Great to see you posting again Bowie. I do love your passion.

15 Apr 2024 01:15:48
I have very little faith in football players or officials these days. But Wood has been a proper pro - I'm proud of him! We need more players like him.

15 Apr 2024 10:05:23
Thank you legless 👍.

15 Apr 2024 10:33:27
Great to hear from you again mate.

15 Apr 2024 12:19:59
That's not passion legless that's the vodka talking that he picks up from his shoplifter for a fiver 🤣🤣.

15 Apr 2024 17:29:08
Great to see you back in print Bowie mate! Stick with us for the roller coaster ride to come in the next few weeks! 👍.

15 Apr 2024 21:35:50
It will certainly be 'emotional' Stokey! Only fitting for us frayed-nerved Reds supporters, once again.

14 Apr 2024 18:24:07
The goal scoring ability gap between Origi and Ollie Watkins is beyond comprehension. A vast chasm of footballing know how and effectiveness for 2 players in the same division!

14 Apr 2024 18:55:34
Just as I predicted. just look at the surprise results being thrown out now. especially at the top.

14 Apr 2024 20:00:22
I know origi ain't great but to compare him to prem top scorer/ assitor not best comparison

Look at elanga or Hudson numbers v anthony or rashford or sancho.

14 Apr 2024 22:25:36
How many f ck ups has elanga done. Not singling him out. The lads got pace. The player i look up to in this side is murrilo. Playes with good old fashioned heart. Young man, learning his trade, never bitches on tackles, never drops his head when messes up just keeps on going. Full of heart. Always looking for a clinical pass. Or shot looking at the last game bless him. Reds, the forest supporters need murrilo. Like they did cooper. To keep the hearts of what they believe in. THE FIGHT. 👏 thank you for keeping the hope alive murrilo. and the amazing supporters at the WFCG. Proud of ya.