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16 Sep 2018 19:51:52
I,m sure most Forest fans deplore our revolving managerial door ,the club seem to make such poor choice and the men given the job are so inflexible,the last four have had their way of playing and just stick at as things go wrong .
DF wouldn,t let them off the leash,PM liked at least 6 changes per game ,MW played side ways and players out of position ,AK offers very little entertainment and signs player after player ,if only they,d just yield enough to appease US things mind end so much better ,but no on we go ,ploughing different but equally bad furrows.
Will we ever see our beloved team up against the country,s top sides again in the league ,I so long to see it but season after season,s end in disappointment,like a never ending bad dream!
CARLO

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16 Sep 2018 20:30:35
why Don’t you put your name forward for the next time the job comes up Carlo.pretty sure you would do a cracking job with all the ideas you have.promotion would be a guarantee and we would all be happy.100+ goals on a season a squad of only 18 players keeping the costs down.win win isn’t it

16 Sep 2018 20:39:42
My goodness Carlo.

Whatever we think about managers at a given time it does not mean that they should appease us, there are too many fans with differing opinions to appease.

Managers should be more flexible in their approach, they should play to their players strengths, and not swap and change players like disposable nappies but they are not employed to appease fans.

16 Sep 2018 20:50:53
Carlo that's a great passionate post my friend and so very true,In that when a new manager comes in,yes he has a style he wants to play,but sometimes the tools aren't there immediately to play that way,flexibility is something lacking in all of them,if they'd have showed it who knows?
Great post Carlo .👍👍👍👍

16 Sep 2018 21:25:02
I am sorry to disagree Carlo, we have a very poor reputation for sacking managers and I agree sometimes an apparent poor choice. There are so many examples of managers appointed and a season spent getting the team to play together before success . Fulham being an obvious example. Other teams such as the sheep down the road have changed their manager almost as much as us yet still have maintained a top ten position in the championship for several years. Leeds were the same. AK we should support and especially the players. The team against Swansea was probably one that all of us on this site would have picked and yes I expect a win this Wednesday and Saturday and I believe that is what we will get

16 Sep 2018 21:31:17
Managers are inflexible I think because they have been successful with their methods elsewhere so naturally they expect the same results again with the same tactics,but I think over time the game changes slightly, players Change slightly and even the rules of the game can change a little,and their methods are no longer quite so effective

16 Sep 2018 22:34:32
What we need is a manager with humility not someone who is stubborn and rigid in his approach. I hope and pray that Aitor Karanka has the potential to become that man. YOU REDS!!!

16 Sep 2018 22:53:17
Doc you have more confidence than me mate,the side he put out against Swansea will go on to another none scoring run my friend,it just has no goals in it,not interested that Osborn should have scored,he's not a goalscorer and neither are the rest of them,except grabban,but if you don't create,you don't score.
Said yesterday at the game a neutral would have turned off or left at half time,the current bun seems to agree it was a bore🤔

17 Sep 2018 08:33:54
To be honest managers 10 a penny nowadays if you don't do your job then adios someone else will as I've said before it's business 2 easy games coming up should be 6 points and a start to the season had results and we could be in bottom 3 by weekend good results we could be top 8 over to you karanks

17 Sep 2018 11:22:52
Our manager always comes across as being humble in media interviews and has confirmed that he has taken on players ideas in team meetings to tweak the system.
This is hardly the trait of a manager lacking humility?
Managers have to have a clear strategy to manage and the players have bought into this. Taking on everyone's collective ideas is hardly a recipe for success?
Managers lead, followers follow and lost sheep fall by the wayside!
Onwards and Upwards

17 Sep 2018 12:27:11
Redinexile a 1st on here I agree with you !managers have got to follow their own path too many opinions only cause confusion

17 Sep 2018 16:24:57
I agree Stevie. Too many cooks and all that.

16 Sep 2018 17:51:13
Don't have a go at me, l have a confession to make. I was at a loose end on Saturday and l went to, how softly can l say this, l went to Meadow lane! It cost me £16 but l saw 6 goals, that will never happen across the river. Very poor defending attributed to this score. My god they are a miserable lot, not like us, we are all happy with the state of things, aren't we? The thing what really pi--ed me off, was the prat with the drum, could not hear my radio for score updates. Sorry will not be going back we moan about out wing backs should see there's, did not see once they headed the ball. Poor old Vaughan, did not get on the pitch as a sub bad move for him.

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16 Sep 2018 18:11:28
Lol 51 your braver than me but hey ho as long as you enjoyed your day out 😎😁

16 Sep 2018 19:17:34
At leaast there wasnt a queue to buy the boveril 😂😂

16 Sep 2018 19:53:05
There was one stand almost completely empty except for 100Stevenage fans,the queue for the bovril stretched for about ,well l thought l was having personal service until another person turned up. The last time l was there was in the sixties when my mate played them. Memories AAAHHHHH!!!

16 Sep 2018 21:33:50
Wasn’t there any paint you could watch drying instead lol

16 Sep 2018 22:39:09
Was there a queue for the "pies"🤔

17 Sep 2018 11:26:56
A trip to Meadow Lane at least once a season is good for the football soul and a reminder that despite our moans and groans things could always be a lot worse!
Be very careful what you wish for?

17 Sep 2018 11:46:37
I'm just wishing for a couple of wins back go back red,
How about you?

16 Sep 2018 16:23:50
Rotherham beat Direby yesterday, so does that mean they will be a push-over at the city Ground?

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16 Sep 2018 16:40:43
Derby games are often no reflection of league form.

16 Sep 2018 16:43:38
No it means we will play with one up front create minimal Clear chances, waste every corner but probably defend excellently. Trouble with that is our defenders and keeper can’t afford to make a single error as a goal against means a mountain to climb as usually means we go behind.

16 Sep 2018 15:37:57
Right I'm seeing a lot of criticism against grabban honest opinion he's far from a bad striker it's not like he's getting great service from midfield and getting 3 or 4 chances a game. our midfield need to start supporting him when we are attacking the problem lies with karanka with his negative approach to games setting his team's up not to lose rather than going to win games even home games he sets up the exact same way we could have Messi up front and he would find goals hard to come by in this team I hate to say this but we are not going anywhere with this manager unless he opens up abit which I can't see happening I just can't see where the goals are coming from . we have the players to flourish in this laeuge but it seems there not getting the chance to they can't all be bad players.

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16 Sep 2018 18:24:39
Good points forest fan.
We have a proven goal yet he's alone with no service.
What I don't understand is why ak purchased him as lone striker?
Karankas arrogance hinders the team.
He's worse than Warburton.
He's too scared to lose even if it means we draw games.

16 Sep 2018 18:47:09
With some of you who are fans no wonder he’s scared of losing.if you lot were in charge of the club we would have a new manager every 6games.

16 Sep 2018 18:59:43
Pot kettle.
You cudn't wait to get rid of Warburton remember?
So your no different other than you can't see through your karanka glasses.🤔

16 Sep 2018 19:04:00
And if it was left to you we’d be in league one now

16 Sep 2018 20:33:37
How’s that 2star I wanted warburton out which kept us up?if it was upto ff and skeg we would be in league 1

16 Sep 2018 20:56:46
Thanks for saving us single handedly Sutton,just think we were mid table and in so much trouble,how can I thank you,your the saviour of our club,if it wasn't for you,karanka wouldn't have been in charge,
Thank you,Thank you so much.🤣🤣🤣🤣

16 Sep 2018 21:13:07
Sutton Utter bull.
Put yourself in Mr.marinakis's shoes.
You say to your employee this. I want the team to get promoted. No ifs. no buts. I'll invest a substantial amount of cash for you to buy players but if you fail you will lose your job.
Krankie agrees and tries to emulate wolves but at this point in fails miserably.
What would do?
Stick will someone who seems out of his depth and panic buys or bite the bullet to recover from the damage done by Krankie and get shot?
If something is broken do you fix it or let work until it's completely destroyed.
Mr.marinakis won't suffer this for much longer.
He's used to getting what he wants if it means saving face and his investment the inevitable will happen.
Karanka isn't the one to take up forest.

16 Sep 2018 22:08:04
Sutton apologies - quite right you did , I got you confused with another poster.

16 Sep 2018 15:27:34
Redinexile you just don't get it do you? grabban will never 'get going" in this system, it is alien to his style of play, it is unlikely any striker will score a significant amount of goals in this set up, its dependent on goals coming from midfield, which is why Osborn 's misses yesterday were so costly,

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17 Sep 2018 17:42:41
Stevie

David Johnson one of more recent cult hero's was signed in January 2001 and only scored 2 goals in the remainder of his first season!

Rob Earnshaw 2010/11 only scored 1 in 13 at the start of the season.
Using your logic they should have been binned.

So with all due respect I very much get the fact that many of you are conditioned by social media and the need for instant gratification which distorts reality.

Players especially strikers often take more than a few games to get in the groove.I rest my case.

16 Sep 2018 13:19:12
I think most of us would have been happy with a point at Swansea before kick off and we were solid and never looked likely to lose the game. Having said that I think Swansea were pretty average and the game was there for the taking yesterday. Having bought in 16 players and not having a striker on the bench sums up his mentality for me. Never agreed with letting Brereton go without replacing him and yesterday didn't change make me that opinion. still, a point away from home is ok as long as we follow it up with 3 points in our next match.

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16 Sep 2018 13:54:50
I'd agree with that PTB. The away draws are good points. It's the home draws which are costing us.

16 Sep 2018 10:22:16
Most would of picked almost that team yesterday. We played well. Had best chances. Kept a clean sheet.
Against a ex prem side.
Most before game would of been happy with point. Next 2 home games will give us the chance to push on.
2 wins and few goals grabbon getting off mark and we will be buzzing. Only thing that might stop this happening is karanka making loads of changes.
I'd start exact same team. But I would be tempted to go 442 and drop lolley and bring in Murphy to partner grabbon.

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16 Sep 2018 10:48:06
1 up front works but generally if you have a drogba up front sadly grabban is never going to look good in that role he is not a hold up player Murphy is the only hold up striker we have , and isn’t going to be able to play every match maybe the Iranian lad can play it who knows?

16 Sep 2018 10:52:10
Red he won't go two up mate,forget that.
The one thing to work on is set peices for me,ten corners again yesterday and all comfortably dealt with by Swansea,that is a golden chance to score and yet it's either poor delivery or we just stand there instead of attacking the ball.

16 Sep 2018 11:51:50
I would have thought that is David Karankas area of expertise.

16 Sep 2018 12:13:28
Think we all know why David karanka got the job

16 Sep 2018 13:36:18
We’ve been hopeless at set peices full stop since davies - chambers was always good for 9 or 10 a season . It’s a fact to say we are naff at them, we don’t attack the ball. When we get a corner my view is the chance is gone - it may as well be a goal kick.

16 Sep 2018 15:45:44
Luke chambers never scored 9 or 10 in a season for forest whilst he was here so how do you work that out?

16 Sep 2018 18:28:37
The karanka brothers. Hmm. I think David needs to learn how to attack or maybe he's like his brother who is defensive orientated.

15 Sep 2018 19:15:22
Happy with a point away from home however I don't see us scoring enough goals to challenge for the play offs and the manager will never change the formation so mid table this season I reckon.

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15 Sep 2018 20:04:48
Mid table won’t be enough for Marinakis, last seasons squad was good enough for mid table we’ve surely improved our chances with all the investment? Hopefully we can get it together and win the next two games, it will be a good month if we do.

15 Sep 2018 21:30:28
I would just like to know where the goals are coming from to take us up the table you know goals win you games just saying we had plenty of chances today defence a lot better and there should be plenty of goals in this team we have the players

15 Sep 2018 21:52:43
7 games into the new season and the defence seems sorted despite the Byram set back. Just need GrabOne to get going before Game 10 to silence the doubters. Ossie in tomorrow for extra shooting practice.
Onward and Upward

15 Sep 2018 22:23:35
Or 27 games and still no further forward on delivering an attacking threat despite spending 20+ million on attached . I know red, I sound like a broken record don’t I!

15 Sep 2018 22:27:50
Not really 2star not seen anything exciting myself since the Newcastle and West brom game mind you was never going to be exciting with karanka a very poor mourhinio

15 Sep 2018 22:48:44
why weren't it going to be exciting ?
manager has bought 3 Portuguese flare players plus Soudani, plus Iranian striker on way.
All the other new blood too, should raise hope unless your an eternal pessimist.
As for Mourhinio, would you really want such a mardy ,arrogant sulk at our club ?

15 Sep 2018 22:51:59
Easy to blame the striker, bottom line is they don't get chances.
Today defensively and pressing higher up the pitch,it was a good away performance.
The problem is there's not enough pace to counter attack and hurt the opposition,mainly down to playing two holding midfielders imo.
So all I see is tight games.
Be nice to ditch one of the holders for home games.

15 Sep 2018 23:09:22
79 hope you had plenty of red wine and a good day nobody could blame a striker playing up front for Karanka the goals in his teams come from midfield he has the players but he's not using them right he reminds me of Dougie and montanair rolled into one be very surprised if we get anything from the pigs in the week

15 Sep 2018 23:09:38
Agree.
Would be great to play some one out and out wide to give defence an option to play the ball out and not invite pressure and to create some attacking potential.

16 Sep 2018 00:45:50
Mardy, arrogant, sulk at our club?? No way is there enough people to come on here and be at the club?? 🤣

16 Sep 2018 06:08:04
they may have dominated the game. but if you don't put away your chances,then you need someone who knows how to put the ball in the net.either karanka changes to 2 up front or pack is bags and go.

16 Sep 2018 09:53:29
Huddersfield went up scoring only (was it) 58 goals.they got into the playoffs and even got to the final and won it without scoring a single goal in the playoff games and the final.

16 Sep 2018 11:08:18
Very rare you'll get away with though Sutton.
We were never going to score yesterday,despite having the bulk of possession.

16 Sep 2018 12:43:23
Ff Osborn kicked one straight at the goalkeeper, and sliced another had any of our other forward players had those chances at least one would have been put away.

16 Sep 2018 14:28:20
I don't blame Osbourne for the misses. Nine out of ten times he would have put those away. Seemed over anxious to me and my only criticism of him was regarding the last chance as a low hard ball across the goal would have made a better opportunity. Still cannot understand why Soudani is not in the side. Grabban is struggling with this set up perhaps Soudani getting a start might be the way. Who knows.

16 Sep 2018 15:06:15
Soudani is injured.
Only half chances in my opinion for Osborn,.Not clear cut chances we created,most players just thos,if it had been along the ground he'd have scored.
This is the problem in general though there is not many goal scorers in that side.

16 Sep 2018 15:20:46
Mickn Both Soudani and Murphy are carrying slight injuries. Like you said on another day Osborn might have put them away. Ff was saying we never looked like scoring so in my opinion he is wrong as Osborn had 2 good chances.

16 Sep 2018 16:37:13
Ff if you view all of the teams chances at best half chances does that mean a clear cut chance in your opinion is no opposition outfield players around their box with their goalkeeper standing to one side waving the attacking player on to score. 😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁

16 Sep 2018 20:17:31
The thing is, Osbourne got himself in to those attacking positions and wasnt afraid to have a shot. Some players bottle it and take a simple pass option so fair play to him.On another day . .

15 Sep 2018 19:12:54
Some of the comments on here are becoming very silly. Last season we would have easily and probably heavily lost to this Swansea side, yet today we dominated much of the play and made them ineffective. We showed some grit and determination to get to the ball first and put pressure on especially at the end. This is a very valuable point and what are people saying? We can't finish, the team is all wrong. No-one is showing any patience to let the team build itself together and show its strengths. I'm going to see the Rotherham match next week and hope to give a more accurate breakdown of what is happening but for heaven's sake some of you have patience and try to be realistic.

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15 Sep 2018 19:55:53
Today was a fantastic defensive performance. However, it’s totally unrealistic of you to think a club like forest can invest 20 + million on improving attaching outcomes only for it not to improve at all. Extremely bizarre of you to appeal to people to be realistic when the reality is we haven’t improved in the final third. If Forest fans think we can spend that much money on Grabnone and a Portuguese ‘prospect’ and sustain our balanced commercial position then heaven help us.

15 Sep 2018 20:08:19
Bsered sorry mate that’s not true the Swansea side we played today in my opinion won’t finish top half .its a team of kids and loanees, today was the day for an overdue win an opportunity missed i’m afraid

15 Sep 2018 20:13:18
I don't think any forest fan can be accused of not having patience and if each if our draws had been as equally as encouraging as this one people wouldn't be moaning, the team has been wrong mainly Watson and colback which he changed like the Newcastle game and yet again it worked let's see if he goes back to playing them together again next game, think fans have the right to be critical after watching such tactical mistakes made then repeating those mistakes let's hope it's behind us

15 Sep 2018 20:23:13
OK bsered just wake me up when the season is over then

15 Sep 2018 20:54:34
Im afraid some on here would moan whatever the situation.
Some obviously have the owners ear or telepathy with him and thrive on negativity and can't wait for more turmoil.
We are more resilient this season.
I for one think we are a better side to watch than last season.
One loss having played 3 of top 6 and a couple of pre season favourites. need some luck re injuries but we will be fine

15 Sep 2018 21:24:59
Trentender do you really think people on this board want more turmoil at the club ?? You don need a telepathic link to the owner to know anything but top 6 won’t keep Ak in a job warburton gave that as the reason he had been fired ,and he had minimal investment , I stand by my post about Swansea , does that make me disloyal, because I thought it was a winnable game? I may not be as loyal and supportive as you because I will only get to about 40 matches this season,spending a fortune in the process so as you can tell I am desperate for “ more turmoil ‘ do me a favour

15 Sep 2018 21:55:09
Stevie - it was a winnable game - like me you are realistic at what the owner is expecting having splashing out more than any (non parachute) club. Keep posting your wares mate, you’re entitled to your view and those that call you negative do so because you offer an alternative beow to their own. Keep it rolling pal.

15 Sep 2018 22:59:33
so before the game started you honestly thought we should win the game and not be happy with a draw from a relegated premier team, away from home ?
I haven't questioned any fan on how much they have spent on Forest but why bother if your not enjoying it.
If I felt that negative and miserable about the manager and the players he has bought and our chances of improvement. I wouldn't bother

15 Sep 2018 23:24:43
Yes I thought it was winnable otherwise I wouldn’t have said so would I ,this isn’t the Swansea prem team they are kicking off down there about no investment all is not well at Swansea,as for the manager maybe you read the wrong post,I never criticised him, I said I thought his job was in danger if he didn’t achieve top 6 and who said going to forest made me miserable?? now your being telepathic,sorry my opinions are different to yours, maybe we should all agree about everything and do away with this board

16 Sep 2018 07:28:14
Lol trentender the big guns from Swansea with what you and a few other happy clappers on here have said a crap mckay in there team one of our rejects yes a big bad Swansea that will be lucky to make top 10 get a grip we had plenty of chances to finish off what could be a Sunderland team this season now we face what should be a easy game against Wednesday if we lose against them what excuse will you give then quick you have 3 days to find one lol

16 Sep 2018 07:47:52
So trentbender do you think aks style of football is entertaining so far barring Newcastle?
Yesterday was an improvement but he needs to address the the lack of goals.
We have a proven goal scorer in grabben if he's used properly ie not a lone striker role he will score. But ak won't change his style.

16 Sep 2018 10:10:58
What managers spend over 6m on a 20 plus goals a season forward and don't play to his strengths karanka does. Hopefully at home he will play someone else up with grabbon or a little closer. Until he starts doing this grabbon will struggle.

16 Sep 2018 11:03:06
Skegsjay Swansea have lost 12 players from their squad from last year and have spent nothing,their fans are doing their nuts about it as you have already pointed out they could well be the new Sunderland, yet some on here seem to think they still resemble a prem team , make no mistake yesterday was 2 points dropped, dispite what the happy clappers will have you believe

16 Sep 2018 12:22:56
Same team who beat Millwall away with 10 men? There are no easy games in this league.

16 Sep 2018 13:04:01
Scouse you can isolate 1 result to make a team look better, they won’t finish top half in my opinion I will admit though they have won nearly half as many games in the last 7 as mr karanka has in the last 30 suppose its not bad for a team who have spent nothing compared to his near 25 mill

16 Sep 2018 13:05:58
Plus the fact i never said easy but had to be classed as winnable for me

16 Sep 2018 13:19:21
Trentender and another thing I am a forest fan that’s why I bother always will be the fact that you wouldn’t is maybe the difference between us

16 Sep 2018 20:26:36
The poor Swansea team that's imploding and sit in the top 6

16 Sep 2018 21:41:54
Yeah after 7 games all you karanka lovers keep telling us you can’t judge our team yet but when it suits you you can judge another after 7 games lmao

15 Sep 2018 18:36:19
Btw - Brentford cruised to another home win today - not much being given away at GP this season. Perhaps only a special team like Brentford would have beaten us two weeks ago?

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15 Sep 2018 20:55:46
I thought we aren't supposed to mention what other teams are doing or what happened in previous seasons

15 Sep 2018 21:56:23
Mention what you want for me other clubs, last season this season, next season if you feel it relevant.

16 Sep 2018 12:17:43
I always respect the opinions of all the posts on here even if I disagree with some of them ..Football is all about opinions isn't it ??
Well here's mine.
23 million spent this season
17 new players
Our youth players road to the 1st team now blocked as we have a ridiculously massive squad.
A manager who does not know his best starting 11.
Are we really saying as a team we have progressed at all in the last few years ??
In my opinion we haven't.
We stand 15th in the league today.
I am all in favour of progresion no matter how small...but I just don't see a clear plan going forward .
This league is tough but money alone won't get us promotion
A good team structure and some consistency in team selection will

16 Sep 2018 13:48:00
In fairness I think we have improved, the squad looks stronger in paper. And given a couple more games I think the team will click, AK will know his best 11 and matchday squad. People have the expectations of promotion because of the money spent. For me this season we must finish top 10. Then in summer add say 3 quality players and we’ll be there or there abouts next season. Our squad is capable of a top 6 push this season but in reality I expect top 10 and that is definitely achieveavle.
Overall I’d say there has been an improvement. It takes time for players to gel and once they have we’ll be a top team. But no promotion this season but next season we’ll have a real chance.

 


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