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19 Mar 2024 06:32:23
If you want a fair and honest assessment of the points deduction listen to Simon Jordan. He’s never usually far from the truth.
As many have pointed out the situation would, we hope, act as a galvanising force bringing the players closer together. However if it does not, and we continue to struggle under Nuno, the place will become toxic. I will cheer the lads on no matter who manages or owns the club, but I can’t help but feel we have all been let down so badly. Surely the club knew the rules, we aren’t a special case and to the Premier League we are just another promoted championship club. Our history counts for nothing.
The crazy thing is, the FFP brought in to “protect” clubs may well be the dagger in the back that sends us down. Hardly what it was designed for - and should we get relegated with, reportedly no relegation clauses in players contracts, we would be dead and buried.

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19 Mar 2024 07:01:11
I can't help but think that the moneymen within the club thought we were allowed to lose £105 million over 3 years instead of the £60-odd million that we were actually only allowed to lose. Hench, why we were being told by the club that everything was under control. Mistake? Incompetence? Or just bad money management?

19 Mar 2024 07:41:57
At the end of the day whoever is in charge of finances got it wrong we got away with 4 points we've lost a lot more than that from winning positions so let's put it behind us now it's down to Nuno and the players to do there job and get us results.

18 Mar 2024 23:39:56
A lot of this board is so negative, we're still just about in the best position as a club we've been in for a quarter of a century, no matter what this corrupt league has thrown at us, we have a fighting chance of staying up and ramming it down their throats, it should bring the whole club together, then I look at some of the stuff on this site and wonder,

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19 Mar 2024 08:55:32
4 point deduction in my view is neither here or there. We have matches on paper that we should win against those around us and some other teams who are going no where in this league up or down. If we don’t survive it will be mainly down to the players not giving their all. We are just in the relegation mix and could easily be out of this after the next match.

19 Mar 2024 11:30:46
Your right doc, could have been a lot worse 6or even 8 points, just wonder how many Everton will get. The players have to put in a shift in. I’d like to see Filipe and domingez back if fit more so with Filipe he has a calm laidback attitude that will be important for the rest of the season. But the fans must get involved, let the players know were behind them.

19 Mar 2024 12:22:45
We can only comment and react to what we see on the pitch, Stevie. It doesn't fill many with confidence. It's been the same story in the last 4 matches. Poor finishing and strange choice's by the coach. Terrible at set-pieces, as well, from both an attacking and defensive perspective. We need to change that quickly.

19 Mar 2024 13:49:22
How do we change the set pieces attacking as well as defending quickly sir Brian 77 we've been the same at them for 2 seasons how do you think you could change that over the next 9 games when 2 coaches and a new set piece coach can't.

19 Mar 2024 17:33:14
Tell Yates to stop shoving people in the back be a good start

Tell Morgan to put a decent delivery in.

18 Mar 2024 20:07:42
So if Brennans sale wasn't included in this time period does that mean we've now got 45 million to play with in the next load of accounts? If we stay up we might be able to sign some new players ??‍♂️.

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18 Mar 2024 20:44:38
God help us if we can - that’ll be Another 45 million. Wasted- please put us under a transfer embargo for a few seasons.

18 Mar 2024 20:45:48
It's impossible for a fan to understand the complexity of football finances mate
Should just say a club can't lose money?
Then football is no longer
It's pathetic and the rules are changing as they are out of date
TV tell us that when we went to Wembley it was a 200 million pound game for the winner?
They don't tell you are on your own with the other two promoted in a situation where you can't lose the same as the rest of the league.

18 Mar 2024 21:32:51
2tone don’t forget we got sangare at the same time as Brennan left,

18 Mar 2024 21:57:15
They are talking about changing the rules, so all bets are off.

The Johnson transfer money would have been included in accounting for the last season in the Championships and the two in the Prem. However, we spent a lot more in the last two than the penultimate season in the Championships but will have an extra year of the higher losses allowed. Confused? Exactly!

Meanwhile, Man City broke up to 100 rules years ago and 2 other teams are potentially going to be relegated for a relatively minor offence. Go figure.

18 Mar 2024 22:28:33
Cyclist yep and it’s apparently for our own good, so we remain’ sustainable ‘ then they make a decision that could cost us 100 million, laughable ??.

18 Mar 2024 22:29:13
The rules change after this season cyclist
Everton next up mate
The dippers need dealing with
They started all this but have never been punished, this time they have done it again and now the punishments are being handed out they can't go without their share.

18 Mar 2024 22:47:53
Does fairness have anything to do with it?

18 Mar 2024 22:50:25
Probably not cyclist.

19 Mar 2024 12:23:51
Absolutely not, Cyclist.

18 Mar 2024 19:38:08
I am going to get a lot of disapproval with this post but here goes. I'm glad we got 4 points and not 3. At least now we are in the relegation zone and our players can finally wake up and realise the danger they are in. I'm hoping this lights a fire under them and we finally see some proper fight, drive and commitment. Not strolling around the middle of the park and conceding in the 85 min plus every single game. Time to put your bodies on the line and actually fight for it. If not then frankly we deserve to go down. Luton are decimated, have a tenth of our budget but they leave nothing on the pitch. I hope now we might start to see the same.

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18 Mar 2024 19:48:28
You deserve a lot of disapproval
You've watched far worst s##t for 23 years, what is wrong with some of you on here?

18 Mar 2024 19:48:44
Fully agree my friend.

18 Mar 2024 19:50:02
Sadly ResSky it’s only going to push Luton on. They are out of the relegation zone now- a huge pressure relief. Expect them to push on. We on the other hand, well I just don’t know. Unhappy times at WFCG.

18 Mar 2024 20:03:06
You seen their next few games?

18 Mar 2024 20:11:22
We will win 6 of our next 9 games and stay up comfortably and it will all be in the past looking forward to our next game from my comfortable recliner ureddddssss.

18 Mar 2024 20:11:22
Positive as usual Blackfrog we will get out of this with6 pts from our next 2 home matches.

18 Mar 2024 20:32:45
Whose we skeggs?

18 Mar 2024 20:38:14
The players will put a shift in, mark my words. Why? Well there in the shop window now, play crap and they don't get that dream move. You watch them Go.

18 Mar 2024 20:55:41
That's th3 spirit mate.

18 Mar 2024 21:15:31
A full house against palace so let's All get behind the team and raise the roof, not just for the mull of kintire but for the WHOLE game start to finish. Our away fans do it so COYR let's show the Greek how much we love our club.

18 Mar 2024 18:07:06
Well if you look at my previous posts it's panned out roughly as I thought. Guilty plea with mitigation. I thought 3 to 5 points with the possibility of the punishment being suspended.
I think we have been double crossed by the Premier League to some extent and on appeal we will have our honesty and co operation better rewarded with 2 more points off. We deserve some punishment because the big man ignored the warnings issued by our Financial Director ( and presumably Mr Randall) of the impending breach. However this is offset by the inherent unfairness of the Premier League system which only allows £60 million loss over 3 seasons ( 2, of them in the Championship for us) for newly promoted teams not in receipt of parachute payments like us. Unlike the rest of the League which is allowed £105 million ( including Everton).
Our breach was £35 million, more than covered by Brennans sale £48 million.
I think even if the appeal fails we could go to the Court of Arbitration in Sport and get it scrubbed altogether ( but by then we'll be ensconced in the Championship).
Of course, the bottom line is that if we start stringing a few good results together the legal shenanigans become totally irrelevant.
I'm optimistic. I think our run in is much easier than Luton's and their thin squad is getting thinner with injuries etc. Plus Evertons breach is still pending.
If I were Mr Nuno I'd get the squad together and create a siege mentality, tell them the above facts and use the circumstances as a motivator! Coyr!

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18 Mar 2024 18:58:43
Stokey pity we haven’t got a home game Saturday, while emotions are still running high, don’t think palace would have fancied it too much.

18 Mar 2024 19:26:10
Need to get the same atmosphere as last season for last few games make it a fortress again

Really believe lack of noise this season has impact on home games and ultimately cost us points

Shocking at times particularly the cup games.

18 Mar 2024 21:50:34
Read alan pardews take on forest and Everton
He's spot on.

18 Mar 2024 16:20:51
I look down some of the comments on this board and am convinced there are quite a few non Forest fans on here,

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18 Mar 2024 16:39:29
I am one of those that you think is a non Forest fan, Stevie.

18 Mar 2024 16:43:16
Stevie thinks everyone is a non forest fan if you don't agree with him I'd take what he says with a pinch of salt and laugh it off.

18 Mar 2024 16:50:48
Derby actually no mate, I think I was wrong about you, but look at some of the comments,

18 Mar 2024 16:58:59
D3rby, you have a swear word in your name. Bound to cause issues ?.

18 Mar 2024 17:30:16
Skegs you spend all of your time singing the praises of both sets of bin dippers, and slagging off everything to do with the club, don’t whether your a closet Leicester fan, or a billy no mates desperate for attention, ?.

18 Mar 2024 17:49:39
??? Stevie thought this site was just to talk about forest and football you sound a little jealous of me I'm getting a little worried you have some sort of crush on me are you sure your not the lonely one after some attention off me ?.

18 Mar 2024 17:59:38
Why do you think I spell it incorrect, Cyclist? A word as bad as D*rby should never get past the edds in my opinion. Unless spelt wrongly. Disgraceful. Hahaha.

18 Mar 2024 18:01:40
Skegs mate the day I’m jealous of you I’ll go and seek immediate psychiatric treatment, it’s my fault for feeding you the oxygen you seem to need to post your stuff, so from now on you won’t get any response from me, try the Leicester page, they love Forest bashers like you on there,

18 Mar 2024 18:13:39
I was called D3rby Red by my mates when I was younger who are mostly, unfortunately, and regrettably, woollyback bar stewards. 2 out the 7 of us are Reds. The other 5 weren't so lucky. can't always choose your friends, though.

18 Mar 2024 18:42:08
Hey Skegs. I said you would be back on here after your " beer break " making a pillock of yourself and there you go.

18 Mar 2024 19:26:16
Cheers Stevie that's great news and gazzi I've never made a Pilock of myself I speak honest words and I'm never wrong even if someone says I am ?.

18 Mar 2024 19:31:04
Some obvious points about who is a fan, in case you missed my comments below.

Certain folk don't want Cooper mentioned. You know the guy who has been most successful since Clarke and Clough. Strange? Of course, it is completely odd if you actually love the club.

The truth is that Nuno lovers don't want to mention Cooper now because Cooper did better than Nuno is. They don't like it because after being wrong for years about Cooper, they are now looking suspiciously like being wrong about Nuno too.

Some things on this site remain as predictable as ever. Wrong specialists never change their spots! ?

P. S. Do we miss the fist pumps? Well yes! Anyone who didn't like them is probably a bin dipper or a sheep, because we only saw them when we won games! Put that in your pipe and inhale. Talk about the obvious! ?

If you hated Cooper after finally getting back to the promised land, then don't be surprised if your loyalty is questioned. And stop trying to tell us what or who we can talk about, it's out of order. Up yours! ?.

18 Mar 2024 19:52:15
You talk about what you want cyclist fact his he's gone mate you seriously do need to go and see a grievance councillor and at the end of the day nobody got him the sack on here he done that himself with the poor football and results the man u all trust in as 79 was saying yesterday maranakis the bloke who according to him his rebuilding this club and has put a lot of money into it didn't think cooper was part of his plans for going forwad that's not my fault my friend come from the big man above ?.

18 Mar 2024 19:59:12
You don't need to make a pillock of yourself it's in your DNA.

18 Mar 2024 20:06:25
NEWSFLASH: bin dippers have grievance with Steve Cooper for getting the mighty reds promoted! ??.

18 Mar 2024 20:09:27
?? it's Arnie didn't think it would be long before u came for a little dig as well I thought you lot said there's more important things to talk about like football seems only when it suits but crack on I have broad shoulders and love laughing it off ?.

18 Mar 2024 20:38:45
Skeggs your just on here to try and wind folk up, no other reason just that, you say its about opinion?
But you don't actually have one when it comes to forest
So you crack on with your emojiws trying to convince yourself that you are hilarious.

18 Mar 2024 21:08:56
Boys I lived in Leicester I went through my whole childhood and teens being called for being a forest fan by the bin dippers there's nothing you could say to me that would even raise one eyebrow you just make me laugh and smile with your kiddy remarks and actually make me feel young again like I'm back at school ???????.

18 Mar 2024 21:31:06
Skeggs have you ever thought you wouldn't need to work seven days a week if you put your phone down and actually did some work?
Proper jobs pay so much better.

19 Mar 2024 10:09:24
Brilliant Ff. ?.

18 Mar 2024 16:24:41
Well we are in the bottom three now- no complaints from me. The football under Nuno has been so disappointing after a decent start. He looks to me like he couldn’t inspire the crust off a rice pudding and I’m sure the players must pick up on this. He just looks so disinterested.
I think the points deduction was lenient- it won’t make any difference in my opinion anyway because the longer we stick with Nuno the further we will be mired in the relegation zone. All so predictable.

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18 Mar 2024 16:59:10
Redfrog I think you would of only been happy with a demotion to the championship you've never been happy with anything mate maybe if we go down.

18 Mar 2024 17:47:04
How can we complain? Honestly, how?

Spent loads on a pile of crap, the rules are rules. You tell me two transfer successes and I can give you seven that aren’t. Even you with your inflated ego can’t run a club like that.
Then we have Nuno. I know you love Nuno but to me he is a Charlatan. Just calling things as they are, the proof is in the pudding as they say. And that’s the facts whether you, me or Marinakis like it or not. We are in the. Bottom 3 for a reason.

18 Mar 2024 18:03:32
Red frog we can complain because the sanctions are being applied even handed, 2words Manchester City, , the premier league is bought and sold by sky,

18 Mar 2024 18:07:24
To be honest redfrog I wouldn't lose any sleep if maranakis got rid of Nuno tomorrow all I know at the time he came in we wasn't getting results and needed a manager with experience in the premier League and I stand by that still and forever results we need don't care who's in charge.

18 Mar 2024 18:55:05
Just read the club statement, initially quite impressed. This was tough but measured and I hope that they use this as starter for the appeal. Well said NFFC! Lots of comments critical of promoted clubs' treatment in the Prem.

18 Mar 2024 19:27:29
I read it to and thought the same Norfolk.

19 Mar 2024 08:13:34
1 charge compared with 115 is a big clue as to why it's taking longer to sort the City issue.

18 Mar 2024 14:28:05
Four points it is then
Now we no get some points on the board
Quite lenient.

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18 Mar 2024 15:12:47
While City carry on regardless. "nothing to see here! "

18 Mar 2024 15:45:20
This will please the conspiracy theories, beat Luton minus 6 draw minus 4.

18 Mar 2024 16:05:22
Only one reason we go down with a. 4 point deduction……because we are s***! No one else to blame!

18 Mar 2024 16:40:27
That's right 2star down to Nuno and players now.

18 Mar 2024 17:36:22
I too think 4 points is quite lenient DTP. I suppose I'm just glad that both the players and supporters know where we are and what we need to do results-wise now.

18 Mar 2024 13:52:15
4 ptr deduction lads ?.

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18 Mar 2024 14:56:10
Now its a two way fight between us and Luton, not the end of the world.

18 Mar 2024 15:02:24
Everton as well when they get deducted more points.

18 Mar 2024 15:11:39
I think we can pick up another 15 points, looking at what’s left. The home crowd have got to get more involved. The lads who go away are always on the money. It’s in our hands now.

18 Mar 2024 15:16:25
Yes Everton still have more to come but I think they will receive same as us 4 points
But all is irrelevant if we can’t start defending.

18 Mar 2024 15:44:26
Your dead right Red Vale. our away supporters are second to none!

18 Mar 2024 15:50:12
Hope it doesn't go down to the last game at Burnley.

18 Mar 2024 18:19:28
The premier league and sky will do everything they can to make that last day jeopardy happen as well.

18 Mar 2024 13:09:59
No wonder we are in big trouble with FFP when we pay thirty five million for Sangare whos not worth thirty five thousand. Would love to know who scouted him. Mr Marinakis as done a huge amount for our club but the Sangare deal shows where he is been let down by those he puts his faith in, and to say deals like that are costing him and our club dearly now. On a more positive note if the players took a leaf out of Williams or Yeates book we would be in a much better place for sure. I still think we can just about stay up as long as Nuno picks players like the two mentioned not big time charlies like Sangare who I have never rated since I first saw him play. Also Forests best eleven must include Dominguez and CHO, both of who have not started the last games. Come on Nuno stop tinkering and pick OUR BEST SIDE in every one of the remaining nine games and we can do it. U REDS.

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18 Mar 2024 11:48:11
I agree with others on here who have lambasted the Sanghare transfer and especially the amount paid.
Someone at the club saw his performances in Holland where he was a big fish in a small pond and we got well and truly suckered.
Even when we buy a player for a much smaller amount, there has to be a thorough look into the players temperament and personally. This bloke seems to lack in both departments.
Reminds me of a story ( not sure how true it is) One Mr Clough called Robbie Savage about the possibility of joining us.
Savage answered the phone with a shout of " Wazza ". OBE immediately put the phone down having judged Savages character instantly.

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18 Mar 2024 12:53:22
Well and truly suckered again ……. Carvalho, Lingard, Sangare, Dennis, origi and many more - this just isn’t sustainable for a club like Forest and that’s why we are getting a points deduction.

18 Mar 2024 13:55:43
4 points so we're still very much in this league.

18 Mar 2024 11:21:45
After these FA cup games, I would like to give a shout - out about Mark Robins and his Coventry team. I just hope we can give wolves a game like they did. There's no front with Robins, it looks like he gets his coat of bulwell market, he wouldn't put on a baseball cap, and no need for a head shave because his lost his hair naturally. I really hope his team win the FA cup, it would be good for football!.

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18 Mar 2024 12:15:20
Same here. despite him scoring against us.

18 Mar 2024 10:29:58
Only hope for us is that MGW, Dominguez and Yates score 20 goals between them for the remainder of the season. On second thoughts, MGW won't score any so it's up to Dominguez and Yates to get into goalscoring positions? Who else will get the goals if Awoniyi and Wood are injured, certainly not Origi, he couldn't hit the Sahara Desert with a tennis court ?. COYR.

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18 Mar 2024 11:16:16
Very harsh on MGW. he may not score many goals, however he's our only player that can bring something different to our game. and he give everything for the cause. unlike some.

18 Mar 2024 11:50:03
I’m still not seeing enough though rogie, I think he’d be fantastic on strictly come dancing but I’m still not sure he cuts the mustard on the footie pitch. A few fancy flicks and plays seems to mask a lot, even the commentators on Saturday were saying that he is fantastic at corners and free kicks! Well I’ve watched most games this season (on tv) and it baffled me. Fans love him and I still back him but I’ll wait a bit longer before I think he’s a good player- being our best player doesn’t make him a good one.

18 Mar 2024 11:51:31
Agree about Morgan, he is our best player, he does ooze class. Without him I wouldn't entertain hopes of staying in the Prem. Spare a thought for him when he looks around the team and sees what we saw on Saturday. No-one else except Murillo looked like they could cut it! Watched other teams at the weekend, they were different class.
PS. Waiting for news about the PSR. Hoping for a fine and a telling off!

 


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