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14 Jan 2018 19:25:09
I mentioned a few weeks back, that getting to 50 points was going to be tough. Barring stellar signings, that thought hasn't changed. We are in a fortunate position where 4 or 5 teams are worse than us but with 6 pointers to play, that could change. I'm not going to sugar coat the situation but AK needs to find some steel for our defense and get some points on the board.

MW's style of play was not suited to our players or our current league position, we need AK to address this. Another concern is the lack of goals in the league, what's the story with Murphy? His purchase and contract aren't looking great decisions at present. With Cummings seemingly going, McKay peripheral, Darikwa not good enough and Dowell dipping in form, our summer business isn't shaping up. I hope AK can dig up some warriors, up for the fight and the owners back him. If not, we're still not out of danger. FTID.

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14 Jan 2018 19:57:34
If Brereton's going (and I hope not) I hope he goes through the door and not "the window". as he'd be no use to anyone!!! 😉😉😉

14 Jan 2018 20:03:28
Murphy has a back problem.

14 Jan 2018 19:54:02
Very true scouse.
Those you mentioned are Warburtons signings.
AK needs to offload a few players and get replacements permitting funds.
He has a huge task ahead but he needs time.

14 Jan 2018 20:21:16
Yep he wants to be back in Ireland with his family, especially now Ireland are out of the world cup?
Came here to play regular got back in their side and now the dream is over,just a theory?

14 Jan 2018 15:01:14
Alan Nixon has suggested Forest have placed a £13m tag on Berereton, all part of the tough decisions Randall was on about when he first joined us.

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14 Jan 2018 16:23:57
If he doesn't go in this window he'll go in the next. £10 million offer will be accepted and probably £3 million of it will be available to the manager.

14 Jan 2018 17:16:04
Take the money

14 Jan 2018 17:44:14
Billy

You say take the money, would you get rid of anyone else, and being sensible, who would you bring in.

14 Jan 2018 18:39:37
Without knowing more of our finances we can't comment on selling there could be 6 or 7 mill of britts money left if the increased gates and sponsorship has reduced the monthly deficit, were the fawas loans wiped with the sale if the club ? There are too many variables would be nice to spend 6 or 7 mill without selling younger stars and make room on the wage bill by getting rid of the likes of mills hobbs ect

14 Jan 2018 19:29:02
it all depends on the player and my understanding is BB loves Forest and wants to stay. contracts mean sod all if the player wants to go.
If he does have his head turned it makes sense to get the most we can to pay for replacements.
football is a business sponsored by addicts like us

14 Jan 2018 20:27:25
I hope Alan Nixon is making up the difference in what he is worth? He's worth at least twice that amount!

15 Jan 2018 11:22:22
13M at todays prices doesn't cover it for me, 25m more like it for me

15 Jan 2018 11:38:08
I don’t know that’s Great Money for Forest however this is where add ons come in.
£13 million for B.B. or £10 for Worrall is decent and brilliant if like Pat Bamford say they go nowhere and end up as a reserve in Championship in 3 years but if they go on to become solid international etc and meet their potential well then it seems cheap! If we sell any of our young players we must make sure they have add ons such as sell on fee and appearance/clean sheet/goals bonuses where if they continue solid progress then it means the fee goes up to the £18-25 mil mark imo

15 Jan 2018 16:47:07
I said take the money because none of them are good enough. Sell the lot of them. This team can get us relegated. How close was it last season and we had Britt then. I’m all for bringing the youngsters on but not at the expense of the team.

13 Jan 2018 21:28:17
Interesting stat mentioned in the game our squad today was purchased by 5 different managers who bought them for different reasons and to play to play different styles, how many managers have had this defence now I can only see one constant and the same problem.

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14 Jan 2018 09:18:10
Yes but Red James, we HAD to get rid of Warburton because we weren’t challenging for promotion. Can’t you see?

On a slightly more serious note - what could realistically have been expected of AK yesterday? He had less than a week to implement a new strategy with a ‘pick n mix’ squad.

14 Jan 2018 11:33:34
apart from Traore that defence was rock solid under Dougie Freedman.

14 Jan 2018 11:45:00
Under Freedman we only had Antonio with any freedom to go forward, the rest had to defend first, then run over acres of the pitch to get close to taking a shot, let alone in the oppositions 6 yard box.

14 Jan 2018 11:46:52
They never troubled us defensively yesterday.
Let's be honest. They hit the bar and scored a goal and that was it.

Unfortunately, there seems to be a desire to play with a defensive midfielder in every game for some unknown reason?

At home against teams who sit back and soak up pressure it would be better to play with two up front and organise the midfield better so we don't get countered.

How's about the midfield hold midfield for a change and the strikers try and kick the ball in the net.

Vaughan is our best player but he shouldn't be! He shouldn't even be playing when were at home!!!!

14 Jan 2018 14:00:32
I wasn't doubting MW sacking but until someone gets a good run in charge it will never change you could have the best manager in the world but without funds how can he shape the squad he wants I just can't see an end to this merry go round

14 Jan 2018 14:46:36
After avoiding relegation on goal difference anyone expecting a promotion challenge have there heads in the clouds

14 Jan 2018 15:17:42
The owners seem to think we should be top six with this squad?
I don't agree unless there is some investment in players or some wheeling and dealing.
Going to be an interesting few weeks till the widow closes.
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14 Jan 2018 15:30:46
Under Freedman we defending as a team and I expect Karanka to install that in these players over the coming month but our midfield and forwards under MW didn’t track back enough even our fullbacks would bomb for Arsenal and not get back or get covered. It is one issue I have with Dowell though he is our best player at creating he is awful in any defensive way, McKay, Clough, Walker, Cummings are all poor at times tracking back. Cash and Osbourn make a big difference cause can push forward and have the energy to get back too and also means Vaughan can sit back in Centre too.
Under Monty and MW we didn’t defend as a team and this was difference when Brasil came in for Leeds and Arsenal we were solid as a team defensively and organised to defend as well as attack. Even yesterday we were better and Villa didn’t get many real chances but is still work to do.

14 Jan 2018 15:38:58
What defending did Antonio do, or did you not count him as part of the team? 😁 😁 😁 😁 😁.

14 Jan 2018 18:01:47
2 missing players yesterday from Dougies back 5. De Vries and Pinillos. Nuff said . .,

14 Jan 2018 18:26:44
Perks13

A while back a poster said Pinillos has missed a lot of the season for his new club, how true that is i do not know, but if it is What Use Would He Have Been?

14 Jan 2018 18:30:28
Err,,none?

14 Jan 2018 19:06:18
How true FF79, no point in pointing to players that have left when they are not playing much at their new clubs because of injuries.

14 Jan 2018 19:08:23
If freedman defence was rock solid ?how come we lost 22 games under him?

14 Jan 2018 19:42:17
Enough of this nonesence, #KarankaOut. There, I said it.

Also - pitching a new show to the BBC next week. “Fawaz’s Bank Balance” stars in an Apprentice style spinoff called “You’re Forest Fired”. Two managers sacked every episode. The sister show called “A club on it’s knees” presented by Dougie Freedman, who as usual, looks soaking wet.

14 Jan 2018 20:02:26
FF79 we've nearly lost 22 already and we are only half way through the season.

14 Jan 2018 20:01:31
LDN red very droll indeed again another Warburton patriarch rears it’s ugly head.
If you read my posts providing you can
read and I’m not talking about cockney slang I’m behind
Krankie.
I’m certain you are Warburtons twin as you are both spurs fans!
Next week we have a spin off series series of only fools and horses starring LND Red as Rodney and Mark Warburton as Delboy.

14 Jan 2018 20:27:49
Perks, exactly we weren't watertight then and we're not now.
Karankas needs a lot of funds to get us where he wants, some wheeling and dealing to get there.
Owners need to see were not top six, so back him now with at least three new recruits or we will carry on struggling.

14 Jan 2018 20:40:12
I knew you'd like being a krankie
I'm ready for a cup run ?
Krankie goes to Wembley ?

15 Jan 2018 12:33:54
ha ha, i think you caught a little fishy there FF79:)

13 Jan 2018 20:15:55
Well just left city ground no complaints beaten by a better side hopefully karanka now realises what we need mills has hopefully played his last game he's garbage.

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13 Jan 2018 21:05:59
Well that's a firstjonny.
Give it time,I'm sure you'll get back to normal.

14 Jan 2018 08:33:53
Mills is a league 2 defender at best, costs us a goal in most games he plays with his awful positioning and anticipation.

14 Jan 2018 11:21:20
I blame smith for that goal, he just stood and waited for the ball

14 Jan 2018 11:47:11
I blame the tremendous cross whipped in at pace,always difficult to defend,as arsenal found out with Eric's first last week.

14 Jan 2018 11:49:13
We should spend everything we have on a keeper and a centre-half. sharpish.

14 Jan 2018 16:25:11
no22 we haven't got a great deal of money to spend. Sell before we buy

14 Jan 2018 19:22:39
Well I've seen it hasn't taken yourself that long to be bemoaning the manager after one game but that's was to be expected I suppose 😆😆

14 Jan 2018 19:49:20
You'll soon be joining in mate?
But let's hope not.
Forgot my red tinted glasses will make me keep the faith.🤓🤓🤓

11 Jan 2018 23:08:30
We're after Musonda from Chelsea on loan according to Telegraph. Not sure if he's a forward or attacking midfielder. Wonder what that says about the likes of Zach.

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11 Jan 2018 23:19:13
Actually there's no chance, is there? "Yeah I'm an old friend of Jose. Hello?. Hello?"

11 Jan 2018 23:29:07
I must admit ?
I didn't see that one coming? 😂😂😂

11 Jan 2018 23:34:11
Charly Musonda looks a class act and surely Chelsea will insist on him having game time, could be bad news for a few of our youngsters.

12 Jan 2018 01:19:48
I believe he can play Central attacking midfield or deeper or right wing. He is class of a deal can be done it would be great.
Him or Cash on the right side, Dowell or him in Centre and Clough or Osbourn on the left. I would think it may mean Carayol and Ward might be moved on though.

12 Jan 2018 14:27:31
Class act so is brereton and clough if given a chance.

13 Jan 2018 12:52:23
See Johnsons article in the Post. 2 hopes. bob and none.

13 Jan 2018 14:36:03
2 chances too, fat and no.👍

13 Jan 2018 19:13:20
We've just no spark tonight,Villa seem to have us sussed,they look so comfortable, rarely threatening.

11 Jan 2018 22:50:04
AK wants to bring Patrick Bamford back to Forest. Seems like a big risk, depends what Patrick Bamford we'd be getting.

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12 Jan 2018 13:33:00
He is not hungry enough to play for us!

12 Jan 2018 17:29:47
Never want to see him back! Completely deluded on his level of ability. Ben Brereton complete opposite, puts a shift in every game need to put a massive price tag on him to protect clubs interests.

12 Jan 2018 18:44:43
Agreed footie bamford had the chance to stay with but chose to go to chelsea chasing the dosh if memory seves me right his told told him not to sign a forest contract he should have stayed at cg 😑

12 Jan 2018 21:30:53
No he didn't he was sold for cash by someone who only liked accumulating it

12 Jan 2018 22:27:32
Sorry not true ff79 his parents told him chelsea could offer him more his contract was up nearly up anyway

11 Jan 2018 21:38:33
AK has only just arrived and has no idea of the depth and quality of our squad - hopefully he'll give last weeks team a run out against villa - insta videos looked like he thought he was either back at 'Boro or at stoke lol.

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11 Jan 2018 21:36:21
In response to the Bamford rumours gathering pace

Too much money too soon and whatever talent he has it not matched by his hunger to be a top player because his bank balance says he does not need to be?

I am sure he is a nice lad and feels Forest is his home but he has had his time on the Trent and needs to plan for his retirement with a club that wants to splash the cash!

AK should have sussed him out at Boro?

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11 Jan 2018 19:56:51
Hi forest fans. There is a lot of people connected with the club that seem to think we will be signing up to 3 players this window under AK. It’s believed he wants to sign a CB as he doesn’t rate anybody other than Worral and Mance expect to see a good player come in. He wants to beef up the midfield so expect to see a CDM/CM be signed.

It’s also believed he will target a new LB to challenge Traore. In summer he would like to add a quality GK, Winger and Striker and potentially another CAM depending on the development of Clough. Also this morn expect to see around 4 players leave, 2 CB’s if AK can buy one and a striker likely Vellios or Cummings, there is also a chance he could move on Bouch. How do I know this. . let's just say I know a few people!!
Thanks. Redlad 2.0

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11 Jan 2018 20:39:35
Off course no one knows how much you know, but that seem he wants to replace nearly a whole team with the main tarket positions being the one's most people were wanting under Mr Warburton.

A K has said he hopes for promotion this year but it could take his entire length of contract.

He said something like we have to separate expectation from realistic possibility.

That for me sounds like there will be no whirlwind changes, just more money spent on fewer players of a higher quality.

11 Jan 2018 20:56:44
We'll hold you to that redland

11 Jan 2018 21:29:00
I don’t think had any idea about our current squad an I hope he takes time to sort it before spending

11 Jan 2018 21:34:57
I hope it’s true but post would be hilarious if it wasn’t .

11 Jan 2018 21:55:53
Well red lad ak only took over on wed so how does he know who he likes os dislikes a big pinch of salt surely 😕

11 Jan 2018 23:24:45
Think your missing the point,
"HE KNOWS A FEW PEOPLE "
I know a lot of people and I'm sure you all do.
You don't need to be a rocket scientist to work out the spine of our side needs a bit of surgery?

12 Jan 2018 08:04:01
The new assistant of AK has said promotion is the target for forest this season. Why would he wait until the summer to strengthen properly if he wants promotion this season?

12 Jan 2018 14:49:03
Because of ffp and it’s also hard to ship loads of players out which we’d need to do in order to fully strengthen

12 Jan 2018 15:23:01
What ffp we havn't got a problem with it,don't know where you get it from.
Players will go in summer when their contracts expire

12 Jan 2018 17:25:24
We’ll considering the club is still in debt. ffp becomes an issue!!

12 Jan 2018 17:50:25
The debt has nothing to do with it.what we can't do is lose more than 13million a season or 39 million over 3 years.
the Greeks won't overspend so no worries

11 Jan 2018 18:41:59
Looks like Naismith is the second light weight Scot NOT signing for us.
AK's influence starting to tell already.

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11 Jan 2018 19:56:21
Had we been linked to him then??

 


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