19 Jun 2015 15:40:50
Radi is refusing to leave.

1.) 19 Jun 2015
19 Jun 2015 16:24:50
where?

2.) 19 Jun 2015
19 Jun 2015 16:49:37
Good. Use him. Proper footballer !

3.) 19 Jun 2015
19 Jun 2015 17:06:14
He's not refusing to leave, he just said the offer from Poland maybe isn't right for him. And he'll see if Dougie decides to give him a go. Fairly standard. Get him playing like he did under Davies and he could be a valuable asset (although Huddersfu

4.) 19 Jun 2015
19 Jun 2015 17:36:41
Dare2believe, sorry, RiverofOaks, Radi isn't refusing to leave, he's turned down the offer of joining another club which a lot of players do. He's hoping he can make a go of it at Forest as Dougie tried to sign him when in charge at Bolton. The attitude we need I think

5.) 19 Jun 2015
19 Jun 2015 17:52:28
another who is only interested in the money for not playing.
These are players with NO ambition

6.) 19 Jun 2015
19 Jun 2015 22:02:40
1987 I think he would much rather be playing and earning his money than not!

7.) 20 Jun 2015
20 Jun 2015 08:52:30
Uptheforest
you are deluded they only do it for the money.
He knows he is on good money that he won't get anywhere else
So He is happy to keep taking it.
If He had any ambition e would have gone after BD was sacked.
He went on loan and was not In Huddersfield team.
He knows if He goes back to Poland He won't be on the same sort of money He's on here

8.) 20 Jun 2015
20 Jun 2015 09:07:28
1978.

Absolutely spot on.

9.) 20 Jun 2015
20 Jun 2015 09:38:57
When I first read the article I thought "well he's got 2 years left on his Davies contract" So he'll hang onto those good wages if he plays or not. But if an English team comes in, he'll go I'm sure

10.) 20 Jun 2015
20 Jun 2015 10:48:10
Comments bordering on disgraceful about one of the few players in the squad with real quality. Assumptions being made about the players own morality and character from people who no nothing about him or his personal circumstances. Well done folks

11.) 20 Jun 2015
20 Jun 2015 11:11:26
Agreed if his heart is in it radi can be a great player for us

12.) 20 Jun 2015
20 Jun 2015 12:08:10
Wilderbeast.

The way I see it, Radi has spoken to a club/ clubs therefore he has been told he can leave.

When realizing he can not get the same wages he is turning them down, therefore refusing to leave.

If he had performed well at Huddersfield he would have got a club that would pay what he wants, so he has not knuckled down to prove himself.

13.) 20 Jun 2015
20 Jun 2015 12:39:46
I've got no problem with people attacking a player for being poor on the pitch as I've done many times myself but to have a go at someone without knowing a thing about their personal circumstances is out of order ! There are plenty of players that "knuckle down" and work hard in squad training without making the starting eleven. Billy rated him and psycho didn't. Now we have a new manager everybody is on a level playing field so if he fancies his chances under DF I've got no problem in him giving it a go. We need to get away from this "all players are just in it for the money" mentality. I know for a fact Raddy is currently doing extra training during the break while team mates are on the beach.

14.) 20 Jun 2015
20 Jun 2015 13:11:09
Wilderbeast
What quality does He have.
In the two years under BD He was never fit enough to play more than 5 games for 90 mins. Most games he was brought off after 60 mins because He lacked stamina. Which in short means not good enough for the English game.
This was also proved at Huddersfield where He was unable to make any sort of impact.

15.) 20 Jun 2015
20 Jun 2015 13:45:59
We all know Raddy is lightweight but I'm talking about his ability to make space, control a ball, see a pass and execute it. He's a clever player who always tries to play the right way on the floor which is what most of our team struggled to do last season. You seem to be confusing quality with strength and stamina.

16.) 20 Jun 2015
20 Jun 2015 14:07:10
Wilderbeast.

What is the point in having the qualities you mention if you are brushed to one side before being able to show them.

17.) 20 Jun 2015
20 Jun 2015 14:47:39
No point in being able to pick a pass if you never have the Ball. There are loads of people who can do miracles with a football but they don't ay professional football

18.) 20 Jun 2015
20 Jun 2015 15:08:45
There are loads of people with stamina and strength who are crap at football. I would rather a player have the talent. Take Andrew Surman. A quality passer and good football brain who is a complete lightweight, but because he plays in a team on the same wave length which plays to his strengths, brings out the best in him and his quality comes to the fore.

19.) 20 Jun 2015
20 Jun 2015 16:04:49
we could talk forever about who is able to pick a pass and who can't. we have had countless managers who don't think Radi has what it takes and I agree with them.
The problem was our chairman gave him a four year deal which will be another millstone around his neck.

20.) 20 Jun 2015
20 Jun 2015 16:46:09
Countless managers ? But only one who knew how to use him

21.) 20 Jun 2015
20 Jun 2015 16:59:22
Wildrbeast
One manager who knew him ???
He played 90 min football 5 times in 18 months under BD
Most of the time he was brought off after 60 mins
This is not a great record for a pro footballer.

22.) 20 Jun 2015
20 Jun 2015 17:24:11
One knew how to use him, but he had no idea how to use a forward, he had no idea how to handle the media, he had no guts to push on when going in front.

He moaned about wanting more money, no matter how much he was given. He got George Boyd chucked out of the club when he took over, he thought he was better than he was.

He also got rid of our youth system.

23.) 20 Jun 2015
20 Jun 2015 19:48:22
Erm I'm lost. How did we get from personal attacks on Majewski to what a poor manager Billy was.

24.) 21 Jun 2015
21 Jun 2015 00:07:45
You implied Davies was the only manager that knew how to get the best out of Radi, so I let you know what Billy was useless at, as you well know Wilderbeast.

25.) 21 Jun 2015
21 Jun 2015 07:06:44
Just to back wilderbeast up here there was a young lad at Chelsea who was one of the best English players we have seen for a while.good on the ball could spot a key pass and had goals in him but in his Chelsea career who only made was it 1 full 90 mins and I'm pretty sure he didn't play many 90 mins for his next few clubs.
He's won and intertoto cup
3 premier league medals
3 fa cups
2 league cups
And 2 charity shields.
That's not bad for a player who can't manage a full 90 mins.
His name was joe cole if you didn't know.

26.) 21 Jun 2015
21 Jun 2015 08:04:41
Like I said folks, you can gain strength and stamina but you've either got natural ability or you ain't. I know which I prefer.

{Ed001's Note - both? Only Joe Cole was a fat lazy donkey when he played for Liverpool. One of the worst players I have ever seen in the shirt, which takes some doing when you look at the dross that has pulled it on in the last 30 years! If they don't train properly, and improve their strength and stamina, then they end up like fatboy Cole with injury after injury and never get to show anything. In fact his only use was as a workout to the stretcher bearers. Surely you are better off getting a player with ability that he can use? If you are not fit enough, then your mind is unable to work properly, it slows down, you want to play a pass but your leg can't generate the power or you just react too slow and the ball is gone before you have had time to play it. There is no excuse in this day and age for being out of shape. They are professional athletes being paid huge sums of money to kick a ball, the least they can do is actually put the effort in. I still can't believe someone thinks Joe Cole was a good player, one of the most over rated lumps of lard I have ever seen, even as a kid. If he had been from anywhere else he would have got nowhere near international football in his life, but we like to hype anyone who does a fancy flick, even if he was doing it in his own half and giving the ball back to the opposition. I remember him as a kid, he was all flicks and tricks in his own half then, he never learnt a thing sadly.}

27.) 21 Jun 2015
21 Jun 2015 08:35:34
Joe cole was a game changer simple as that.i would rather have him in my team than against me (in his prime).
He wasn't all about flicks he was about beating his man and creating chances which he did and looked very good doing it.joe cole was never fat or overweight.peoples bodies are different and some have different muscles structures that don't permit them to have the stamina to go a full 90mins running at defenders.some players are 60min all in players and some go the full 90s,everyone's body is different some cope with the day to day routines some don't.sometimes it's something that Connot be changed and they have to live with.

{Ed001's Note - he really was fat and overweight, he got told so at Chelsea and at Liverpool repeatedly. Some players are 60min players because they are unfit and lack stamina. They should train harder and they would last longer. It really is that simple in the modern era with the diet and training available to them. If they were professional and put in the work rate, as someone such as Charlie Adam has done in recent years, they would be able to improve their stamina as he has done. There is no longer an excuse. This is not the 1980s any more. Lifestyle issues are usually the root of all the problems with stamina. They would rather go out on the lash than rest when their bodies need it, so they are tired the next day and do not train as hard as they should, which means they are not improving their stamina, so the next day they are tired and so on. Eat right, live right and they would gradually improve their stamina level.}

28.) 21 Jun 2015
21 Jun 2015 09:25:31
I think it is fair to point out, I have nothing personal against Joe Cole, he is actually a lovely lad, a really nice lad who does work his butt off when he is on the pitch. The problem is that he is not very bright, and when he is training he tries too hard to be one of the lads and ends up slacking off messing around with his mates. That is probably why he did better while in France, as he would not have been able to do that, with him being unable to really get into the banter due to the language barrier. He allows himself to get distracted and led astray, in a very similar way to Gazza, though without anything like as much talent to get away with it.

29.) 21 Jun 2015
21 Jun 2015 09:59:40
I'm confused again. Are we saying Raddy isn't fit ? We seem to be going off on tangents again. Joe Cole maybe considered fat and lazy but that's got nothing to do with Majewski being lightweight.

{Ed001's Note - good point you make there, the two cases are not relevant.}

30.) 21 Jun 2015
21 Jun 2015 16:27:53
What I was saying is people have different genetics and some CAN change and be beneficial and some cannot change.look at paterson he's been doing weights and trying to gets gains yes he's leaned out and you can actually see muscle but he hasn't thickend out much ad will still be considered lightweight.some people cannot get to the stamina they need to play football for 90 mins because there body isn't made for it,yes cole could knuckle down but he still wouldn't be a 90min player.
Look at dyer all the ability trained like mad looked good for it come game time he gets injured same as jenas,training harder doesn't mean you get injured less it's all about your body and body genetics.

31.) 21 Jun 2015
21 Jun 2015 21:40:10
You are all missing the point with Radi. He has been at his best in a Forest shirt when we have had a strong holding midfielder which allows Radi to express himself when Forest keep possession and are not chasing the ball. McKenna and Geddy allowed him to play. In his last full season we had no less than 8 players trying to play DM and our midfield was shambolic always losing possession which makes Radi look bad especially as he is not a ball winner although he did his best to track back.

Huddersfield was not a good move for him as they do not keep possesion well and rely on pace down the wings to attack.

Given Reid is done for he is our only creative midfield option provided we get the balance of midfield correct. Osborn is not the finished article so unless we can unearth a creative diamond then he should be given a chance but we need a strong DM to allow him and the team to play. Andrew Surman is a good example of a so called lightweight who is suberb if you get the team balance right!