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29 Dec 2017 15:34:34
I was one of the fans who really wanted stability to stick with a manager, give them plenty of time to get a decent backroom staff together and to try and implement a way of playing that can work through from the youngsters to the first team. I am however struggling to see enough positives from MW - the way he plays should be worked on through the academy and I'm sure we would see results in the coming years here comes the problem!

I cannot think of any manager who has ever been successful who hasn't played to his players or collective groups strengths, the level of success doesn't matter - it could be winning the champions league, a cup or winning a relegation battle. It looks to me that we are playing to our weaknesses in an attempt to play in a way that some of our players just cannot do.

We do have some good players and if they are encouraged to play to their strengths rather than their weaknesses we could easily have an extra 6-10 points this season. Come on breadman - play to our strengths and we will all support you, keep messing and it's a downwards spiral and more fans will get on your back.

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1.) 29 Dec 2017 17:05:20
But he’s not got a full squad capable of playing the football he wants. He’s not moaned about the squad that he has but it’s certainly obvious he feels he needs more of a certain type of player.

You’re right, we need stability but more importantly, and possibly above other things - we need patience and belief. No one is saying, “let’s see how this works over the next 5 years” - it’s a case of us understanding that right now, we are simply a mid table team trying to improve.

That improvement comes from a structure, a philosophy and a recruitment plan which are all on the same page.

Give this man another season and if it’s not working we look at our options. I’d also make a case for us being unable to attract top, top managers if we continue this revolving door policy.


2.) 29 Dec 2017 18:43:56
2 tone your bang on regarding players playing to strengths.Joe Worrall is a good example.When he keeps it simple he looks class but sometimes I feel he takes risks with the ball when it's just not necessary and seems out of character.I do have to give MW credit for giving some of these young men a chance.Past managers have been guilty of having a closed door policy on young players development.


3.) 29 Dec 2017 19:18:51
Ldn red - he’ll never have a full squad capable of playing the way he wants, that’s a completely different level to where we are and would cost millions!! If he isn’t careful he will ruin some of our ‘better’ players as they will forget what they are actually good at. I want to back him and give him a few years but I do want to see steady signs of improvement


4.) 29 Dec 2017 19:56:43
I’m not saying you’re wrong - but what I will point to is that in past/current seasons, teams which play a very similar style to us have competed at the top end or been promoted without spending millions.

Teams like: Sheffield United, Reading, Fulham, Bournemouth, Watford and Swansea.

MW won’t be looking to try and spend millions, he’ll be selecting players which fit his style.


5.) 29 Dec 2017 21:51:21
Bang on 2tone. Best post on here for ages


6.) 29 Dec 2017 21:53:35
Another season... You really think so?
Please lnd red enlighten us to why you think he should be given another season?
You state you want to sit down all of whom disagree with the way of the breadman... Again please enlighten us? Myself like many feel exactly like 2tone.

The inability to address many shortcomings is not how structure is built.
Structure comes from the chairman down to the staff who steward each week.
There seems to be a piece missing where Warburton is concerned his way of tactics, leaving players out in the cold and playing out position isn't a structured formula.
Yes structure takes time I agree but how much time is required.... 2,3,4 seasons?
So lnd red please with your infinite wisdom and inside knowledge tell us why Mr. Warburton is the messiah?


7.) 29 Dec 2017 23:11:04
I’m not one for enlightenment, I have an opinion, just like everyone here.

There’s certainly negatives with some of MW’s decisions, not all I’ve agreed with. But why kick us when we’re down though? Why get rid of the manager so quickly and start from scratch - AGAIN.

I feel it boils down to this. We have a young squad incapable of playing MW’s tactics on a regular basis and some fan favourites not getting as much game time as people would like. I’d be the first to say that we should’ve signed a CB and a GK in the summer, I’d like to think we tried (Hector & Federici) at least! The defence is certainly our weak point and it’s of course a shortcoming thay it wasn’t fixed back then.

The team he has now isn’t even his yet. There’s plenty of players in there which don’t suit the way Warburton wants to play which I think is largely why some players are being played out of position or not at all (Vellios). I personally feel we need to trust in a philosophy/manager and buy players which are suited to that style. It’s the only way we can make a real success of this - not by bringing in someone new and having them reshape the squad their way.

If we’ve learnt anything over the past few years, it’s that changing manager takes us at least 8months to reset. It’s been the thing which has largely held us back in recent years.

What we have now (I think), is a manager who wants to promote from within, has a clear idea of how he wants us to play and is willing to build a squad capable of doing that in his style. It doesn’t just happen in 1 window (incredibly rarely!).

Worth noting quickly - if we lose MW, we also lose our DoF, Frank McParland. Not something I’d want to do in a hurry.

Warburton aside for a minute - and remembering last season, where do people feel would be an acceptable place for us to finish based on our squad. Top half would be a lot of progress in my book.

If we can manage our expectations and take the lows with the highs, I think we’ll all be better for it.


8.) 30 Dec 2017 09:38:31
LDN Red

I agree with what you are trying to get across, but i feel 2 things are getting on most people's nerves are, we let the opposition score too easily, and there has been little sign of it being sorted, and inspite all of our possession, and odd patches of really good football the opposition mostly out play us.

It is a slow process, and we should try to be more positive, and hope for the best, but with each loss it gets harder.


9.) 30 Dec 2017 10:25:00
With you there 100%. Who here could say watching us lose is much fun?! I was at the Wednesday game and felt for much of the match we were actually miles better than them. 3 one on ones and a strong penalty shout - we were unfortunate not to go in 3-1 up at half time.

I digress.

The defence is a cause for concern and a large one at that. Most attacking possession based sides do leave themselves open at the back. We do need to be more solid but I’d wager that this is a personnel issue more than anything else.

Look at Huddersfield’s style of play (Champ and Prem), they look to out score you rather than play bland, slow football where you’d be lucky to see us score a goal. Progress is slow but my god, weren’t we a lot worse before?

The statement from the new owners and in particular the new chairman stated they wanted stability. This comes from trust and again, managing our own expectations.


 

 

14 Jan 2017 18:51:19
25 million for a club like ours which is running at a loss, has no real assets and no structure still seems an awful lot of money. Fawaz thinks it's worth double that? Whose mad? Is it fawaz, is it the yanks for spending so much time and effort on a gamble that the selller might just crumble and give it away at the last minute or is it the fans who think the club is something that any sane businessman would buy at 50 mill? I'd suggest it's all three of the above?

2tone

1.) 14 Jan 2017 19:03:50
It's a gamble but run the club right and we could be worth a hell of a lot more. just think with fawaz gone we will have the 10k back that are staying away whilst he's in charge bringing more money in. get Nigel clough or rowatt in and we will never lose another game and be promoted first season which again brings even more money in! simple


2.) 14 Jan 2017 19:25:28
Lets take it on dragons den see if peter jones will invest


3.) 14 Jan 2017 19:41:00
Nffc is a brand, and as one of only 5 English clubs to be. European champions, then yes, worth 50 mill. Famous throughout the world, and that, you can't buy. Well you can, but you know what I mean!


4.) 14 Jan 2017 19:42:28
what crystal ball you been using?


5.) 14 Jan 2017 22:31:49
None of the championship clubs make money unless they have parachute payments. The difference is a prem team costs 150M and a champ team can get brought for sub 30M. Get it right. get paid.

Our attraction is we have history and fan base. but no ground. We are in this melee every year until we either go up or down. Same as 16 of the other teams. Championship teams lose money. They operate on negative equity. Like it or not Fawaz has helped us exist. JJM would have just been the next one to spin us for another 5 years.


 

 

27 Aug 2013 01:06:47
ive been told Rhodes is going Wigan on the final day of the window? Info from a big scouse fan with good links around the nw

2tone

1.) No you just read the rumour yesterday. Wigan may however have the cash to buy him after the sale of young midfielder James McCarthy.


2.) Forest rumours

{Ed034's Note - this is a forest rumour as fans on here have been talking about him. If any fan doesn't like the rumour being posted, ignore it and move on to the next


3.) If i'd seen that rumour yesterday why would I just post it again? As I said in the op I was told this by a lpool fan who has good links around the north west.


4.) And its the same Liverpool fan who told me that I wouldn't be able to understand carragher on tv! So he us 100% correct with his info so far this season :-)

{Ed034's Note - he is awful


5.) Not according to Blackburn MD who says they will not sell to Wigan. Its going to be an interesting week to see who we get and who goes. If we could sell a few Rhodes could be affordable with the financial rules.


6.) He has a terrible tv voice which seems to get higher and higher the more animated he gets! Knows his stuff though and says it how it is

Keeno


7.) Wigan have signed Grant Holt - why would they need another?


 

 

 

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09 Mar 2019 17:28:37
Great result, just need to get back to back wins and really put the pressure on. COYR.

2tone

1.) 09 Mar 2019 17:41:58
Trust in the irish up there with the best that ever wore the shirt.
Just get behind the team they put out.
Defends sorted,pants a different player under Martin,
He went around the ground applauding every stand after the game,different player,got a massive round of applause from me.


2.) 09 Mar 2019 17:48:34
Agreed ff he seems transformed actually warming to him now thought pele looked decent broke play up well and then distributed it well


3.) 09 Mar 2019 17:50:04
Just about right , 3points 3goals clean sheet teams around us dropping points , full house my the cool pint l am drinking now tastes good .


 

 

26 Feb 2019 13:51:18
Have a look at the remaining fixtures and have a prediction for the points tally from the 12 games - I'm going for 24 points and making the play offs (just) 🤔.

2tone

1.) 26 Feb 2019 14:18:42
Agree 2tone 22/24 points should see us get there but a big ask but not impossible 12 games to go , 6 wins 4 draws 2 losses could do it


2.) 26 Feb 2019 16:00:01
Bristol might have games in hand but,look who they have to play.
Birmingham
Preston
Leeds
Ipswich
Sheffield United
Boro
Wigan
West Brom
Villa
Reading
Sheffield wenesday
Derby
Millwall
Hull.
That's a tough run in


 

 

06 Feb 2019 18:15:25
Sorry meant to mention I don't want any cash for the ticket just pay for a cuppa for someone whose homeless or buy some chocs to cheer someone up 👍.

2tone

1.) 06 Feb 2019 20:01:22
Great gesture again 2tone could I have the ticket I will buy billy Davies a cuppa and send you some chocs after some of the latest comments on here mate 😂


2.) 06 Feb 2019 21:00:13
I get sucked in every time my mate gets mentioned 🤣


 

 

06 Feb 2019 18:09:39
I've still got a spare ticket for the derby game if anyone wants it? Single seat in the upper bridgford and you wouldn't have to sit next to me as I'm a few rows away 🤣 it is a kids 12-17 ticket but apparently you can pay the difference and upgrade it to an adult ticket - happy to post it out if Ed can pass an address on 👍.

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27 Jan 2019 18:02:33
Roy Keane can have my free ticket for the derby game if it keeps him off the bench and away from the players and management team 🤔.

2tone

1.) 27 Jan 2019 18:18:50
You wish he was back here then 2tone 😁


2.) 27 Jan 2019 19:05:50
Skeggy- My dream team would be prince billy and Keano 🤣


3.) 27 Jan 2019 19:12:54
Lol 2tone that would be quite a few fans dream team 😁


4.) 27 Jan 2019 19:51:23
Can't believe you can't give that ticket away 2 tone,the power of tv hey?


5.) 27 Jan 2019 20:38:17
But Billy has No Mates so how's that going to happen? Give it up 2tone he will only gilt you at the altar or get lost on the way to the church? That's what serial bottlers do!


6.) 27 Jan 2019 20:53:32
It must be the tv ff79 - crazy really, but hopefully someone will have it.


 

 

 

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06 Mar 2019 14:00:49
Another bet I’ve lost 🤣

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05 Mar 2019 20:54:41
I bet they haven’t.

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27 Feb 2019 17:40:21
Like it floresta 👍

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07 Feb 2019 17:03:03
I’d have him back, but only to dress up as the mascot and let the ball boys and girls fire balls at him 🤣

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06 Feb 2019 18:23:24
Yeah he nearly got us promoted twice - a good manager wouldn’t have lost both of the big games needed to get us to the promised land. Best recent performances consistently from the period when he was in charge but that doesn’t mean much - look what trash we are comparing him too. He was a loser not a winner and certainly no king . Just my opinion and a few on here will know it’s only a bit of banter with me regarding prince billy 🤔 👍

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13 Mar 2019 20:58:17
👍 picked any winners at the races?

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13 Mar 2019 18:18:19
Old gits 🤷🏻‍♂️

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13 Mar 2019 13:24:21
I think some of you are showing your age 🤷🏻‍♂️ 🤣

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28 Feb 2019 18:18:59
Stevie I do get that mate and that’s a plus about living away but that is just jealousy on their part- I just think we’ve got better rivals than a small set up that’s in our shadow

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28 Feb 2019 17:32:28
I’m Not from Nottingham so don’t understand the rivalry or bitterness between us and county-I’ve always just thought of them as the little club with a slightly odd fan base,over the Trent. I understand that their fans are jealous of our success in the past years and I’m sure most of their fans deep down wish they were given the chance to be forest fans. I’d give them a pat on the back and feel sorry for them rather than wish bad on them on their club. In a way I’m glad my rivalries are based more on pure footballing issues rather than what some fans or management have said about us-I hate scousers and Man Utd fans/clubs much more than county or derby.

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