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29 Dec 2017 15:34:34
I was one of the fans who really wanted stability to stick with a manager, give them plenty of time to get a decent backroom staff together and to try and implement a way of playing that can work through from the youngsters to the first team. I am however struggling to see enough positives from MW - the way he plays should be worked on through the academy and I'm sure we would see results in the coming years here comes the problem!

I cannot think of any manager who has ever been successful who hasn't played to his players or collective groups strengths, the level of success doesn't matter - it could be winning the champions league, a cup or winning a relegation battle. It looks to me that we are playing to our weaknesses in an attempt to play in a way that some of our players just cannot do.

We do have some good players and if they are encouraged to play to their strengths rather than their weaknesses we could easily have an extra 6-10 points this season. Come on breadman - play to our strengths and we will all support you, keep messing and it's a downwards spiral and more fans will get on your back.

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1.) 29 Dec 2017 17:05:20
But he’s not got a full squad capable of playing the football he wants. He’s not moaned about the squad that he has but it’s certainly obvious he feels he needs more of a certain type of player.

You’re right, we need stability but more importantly, and possibly above other things - we need patience and belief. No one is saying, “let’s see how this works over the next 5 years” - it’s a case of us understanding that right now, we are simply a mid table team trying to improve.

That improvement comes from a structure, a philosophy and a recruitment plan which are all on the same page.

Give this man another season and if it’s not working we look at our options. I’d also make a case for us being unable to attract top, top managers if we continue this revolving door policy.


2.) 29 Dec 2017 18:43:56
2 tone your bang on regarding players playing to strengths.Joe Worrall is a good example.When he keeps it simple he looks class but sometimes I feel he takes risks with the ball when it's just not necessary and seems out of character.I do have to give MW credit for giving some of these young men a chance.Past managers have been guilty of having a closed door policy on young players development.


3.) 29 Dec 2017 19:18:51
Ldn red - he’ll never have a full squad capable of playing the way he wants, that’s a completely different level to where we are and would cost millions!! If he isn’t careful he will ruin some of our ‘better’ players as they will forget what they are actually good at. I want to back him and give him a few years but I do want to see steady signs of improvement


4.) 29 Dec 2017 19:56:43
I’m not saying you’re wrong - but what I will point to is that in past/current seasons, teams which play a very similar style to us have competed at the top end or been promoted without spending millions.

Teams like: Sheffield United, Reading, Fulham, Bournemouth, Watford and Swansea.

MW won’t be looking to try and spend millions, he’ll be selecting players which fit his style.


5.) 29 Dec 2017 21:51:21
Bang on 2tone. Best post on here for ages


6.) 29 Dec 2017 21:53:35
Another season... You really think so?
Please lnd red enlighten us to why you think he should be given another season?
You state you want to sit down all of whom disagree with the way of the breadman... Again please enlighten us? Myself like many feel exactly like 2tone.

The inability to address many shortcomings is not how structure is built.
Structure comes from the chairman down to the staff who steward each week.
There seems to be a piece missing where Warburton is concerned his way of tactics, leaving players out in the cold and playing out position isn't a structured formula.
Yes structure takes time I agree but how much time is required.... 2,3,4 seasons?
So lnd red please with your infinite wisdom and inside knowledge tell us why Mr. Warburton is the messiah?


7.) 29 Dec 2017 23:11:04
I’m not one for enlightenment, I have an opinion, just like everyone here.

There’s certainly negatives with some of MW’s decisions, not all I’ve agreed with. But why kick us when we’re down though? Why get rid of the manager so quickly and start from scratch - AGAIN.

I feel it boils down to this. We have a young squad incapable of playing MW’s tactics on a regular basis and some fan favourites not getting as much game time as people would like. I’d be the first to say that we should’ve signed a CB and a GK in the summer, I’d like to think we tried (Hector & Federici) at least! The defence is certainly our weak point and it’s of course a shortcoming thay it wasn’t fixed back then.

The team he has now isn’t even his yet. There’s plenty of players in there which don’t suit the way Warburton wants to play which I think is largely why some players are being played out of position or not at all (Vellios). I personally feel we need to trust in a philosophy/manager and buy players which are suited to that style. It’s the only way we can make a real success of this - not by bringing in someone new and having them reshape the squad their way.

If we’ve learnt anything over the past few years, it’s that changing manager takes us at least 8months to reset. It’s been the thing which has largely held us back in recent years.

What we have now (I think), is a manager who wants to promote from within, has a clear idea of how he wants us to play and is willing to build a squad capable of doing that in his style. It doesn’t just happen in 1 window (incredibly rarely!).

Worth noting quickly - if we lose MW, we also lose our DoF, Frank McParland. Not something I’d want to do in a hurry.

Warburton aside for a minute - and remembering last season, where do people feel would be an acceptable place for us to finish based on our squad. Top half would be a lot of progress in my book.

If we can manage our expectations and take the lows with the highs, I think we’ll all be better for it.


8.) 30 Dec 2017 09:38:31
LDN Red

I agree with what you are trying to get across, but i feel 2 things are getting on most people's nerves are, we let the opposition score too easily, and there has been little sign of it being sorted, and inspite all of our possession, and odd patches of really good football the opposition mostly out play us.

It is a slow process, and we should try to be more positive, and hope for the best, but with each loss it gets harder.


9.) 30 Dec 2017 10:25:00
With you there 100%. Who here could say watching us lose is much fun?! I was at the Wednesday game and felt for much of the match we were actually miles better than them. 3 one on ones and a strong penalty shout - we were unfortunate not to go in 3-1 up at half time.

I digress.

The defence is a cause for concern and a large one at that. Most attacking possession based sides do leave themselves open at the back. We do need to be more solid but I’d wager that this is a personnel issue more than anything else.

Look at Huddersfield’s style of play (Champ and Prem), they look to out score you rather than play bland, slow football where you’d be lucky to see us score a goal. Progress is slow but my god, weren’t we a lot worse before?

The statement from the new owners and in particular the new chairman stated they wanted stability. This comes from trust and again, managing our own expectations.


 

 

14 Jan 2017 18:51:19
25 million for a club like ours which is running at a loss, has no real assets and no structure still seems an awful lot of money. Fawaz thinks it's worth double that? Whose mad? Is it fawaz, is it the yanks for spending so much time and effort on a gamble that the selller might just crumble and give it away at the last minute or is it the fans who think the club is something that any sane businessman would buy at 50 mill? I'd suggest it's all three of the above?

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1.) 14 Jan 2017 19:03:50
It's a gamble but run the club right and we could be worth a hell of a lot more. just think with fawaz gone we will have the 10k back that are staying away whilst he's in charge bringing more money in. get Nigel clough or rowatt in and we will never lose another game and be promoted first season which again brings even more money in! simple


2.) 14 Jan 2017 19:25:28
Lets take it on dragons den see if peter jones will invest


3.) 14 Jan 2017 19:41:00
Nffc is a brand, and as one of only 5 English clubs to be. European champions, then yes, worth 50 mill. Famous throughout the world, and that, you can't buy. Well you can, but you know what I mean!


4.) 14 Jan 2017 19:42:28
what crystal ball you been using?


5.) 14 Jan 2017 22:31:49
None of the championship clubs make money unless they have parachute payments. The difference is a prem team costs 150M and a champ team can get brought for sub 30M. Get it right. get paid.

Our attraction is we have history and fan base. but no ground. We are in this melee every year until we either go up or down. Same as 16 of the other teams. Championship teams lose money. They operate on negative equity. Like it or not Fawaz has helped us exist. JJM would have just been the next one to spin us for another 5 years.


 

 

27 Aug 2013 01:06:47
ive been told Rhodes is going Wigan on the final day of the window? Info from a big scouse fan with good links around the nw

2tone

1.) No you just read the rumour yesterday. Wigan may however have the cash to buy him after the sale of young midfielder James McCarthy.


2.) Forest rumours

{Ed034's Note - this is a forest rumour as fans on here have been talking about him. If any fan doesn't like the rumour being posted, ignore it and move on to the next


3.) If i'd seen that rumour yesterday why would I just post it again? As I said in the op I was told this by a lpool fan who has good links around the north west.


4.) And its the same Liverpool fan who told me that I wouldn't be able to understand carragher on tv! So he us 100% correct with his info so far this season :-)

{Ed034's Note - he is awful


5.) Not according to Blackburn MD who says they will not sell to Wigan. Its going to be an interesting week to see who we get and who goes. If we could sell a few Rhodes could be affordable with the financial rules.


6.) He has a terrible tv voice which seems to get higher and higher the more animated he gets! Knows his stuff though and says it how it is

Keeno


7.) Wigan have signed Grant Holt - why would they need another?


 

 

 

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01 Feb 2018 07:47:09
Well done to the manager and the owners for making a big attempt at shifting a lot of the 'deadwood', getting loans sorted for some of our potential future first teamers and for getting some players in who certainly look the right type! 👍.

2tone

1.) 01 Feb 2018 08:47:35
It feels like Xmas all over again well done everyone at forest


2.) 01 Feb 2018 08:58:56
Skegsjay definitely reasons to be cheerful, no more cruising for the players.

The owners have backed the manager so the players have to put the effort in, and perform or they will be gone in the Summer.


 

 

07 Jan 2018 19:11:31
Wasn't it great to watch a hard working, honest and successful group of players backed up by a manager who didn't talk nonsense and gave credit to the right people. I also enjoyed hearing some of the interviews after the game from ex players, commentators and coaches (not just from people with close links to forest) they seemed genuinely impressed and hopeful that we can turn the corner and be successful in the future. Fingers crossed and as Brazil said we certainly have got some talent in the squad and whoever gets the managers job has a great pool of talent to work with. Who do we all want in the next round? I'll just be happy with another home game and another full house.

2tone

1.) 07 Jan 2018 19:50:04
Liverpool, at the City Ground.👍😀👏


2.) 07 Jan 2018 19:50:23
Agree with all that!
Would like to see Liverpool, Man Utd, Newcastle or West Brom coming to City Ground in next round. would fancy much away especially a big club or a lower league team! County at City Ground would be fun too or even Derby though wouldn’t be so confident of getting much from that!


3.) 07 Jan 2018 20:08:14
Lol Red, are you teasing the Derby fans amongst us?😂


 

 

06 Oct 2017 00:42:58
Can osbourne and Cummings teach the England players how to score from corners? Its a simple plan and only needs a bit of help from the opposition but at the minute that tactic has a 100% success rate 😂.

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03 Sep 2017 11:07:46
If anyone finds my head can they please return it 🤔.

2tone

1.) 03 Sep 2017 11:18:24
Self inflicted, no sympathy 🙃🙃😂😂😎😎


2.) 03 Sep 2017 13:58:59
Was it worth it mate??? Of course it was!!!🍻🍻🍻


3.) 03 Sep 2017 14:06:48
Surely Ward,must be close to a return???


4.) 03 Sep 2017 17:48:26
I thought Ward was in Hospitals.😁


5.) 03 Sep 2017 20:49:36
Burton in January transfer window probably. 22 or 24 man squad?
Just saying.


6.) 04 Sep 2017 09:59:17
Understand your point Fighter pilot and I'm a big fan of Zac Clough but hopefully Zac will raise his game and thrive on the competition for places a talent like Dowell brings.
If we played a 4-1-4-1 formation we could play both with Bridcutt holding,McKay and Osborn/Carayol out wide.


 

 

30 Aug 2017 21:32:04
first international break I've been looking forward to - maybe because I'm off to Malta with the lads for the England game. Any other red uns going? 🍻⚽️.

2tone

1.) 30 Aug 2017 21:44:13
2tone have a good one and a few beers for me mate


2.) 30 Aug 2017 21:52:01
Enjoy mate.
Can't afford it still saving up my money for an assault rifle and body armour for Russia.


3.) 30 Aug 2017 22:20:08
We'll definitely sink a few beers skeggy 👍 - 79 you'll need to save a bit more cash, I'd be looking for an armoured vehicle not just body armour 🤔


4.) 30 Aug 2017 22:45:01
That's "PUTIN" nicely.😂😂😂


5.) 30 Aug 2017 23:35:04
I think they're all out here in Florida 2tone, reduns galore over here at the minute. helping my case persuade my oldest that he really needs to end his flirtation with Chelsea once and for all and join the red army 100%. (To be fair to the lad he does have a forest season ticket) perhaps when we've turned Chelsea over that'll be that?


 

 

 

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13 Sep 2018 07:36:11
For footballs sake (ffs) and would you want another set of fans to go through that?

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13 Sep 2018 00:23:54
He shouldn’t be allowed to buy a bag of crisps in this country let alone another football club

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13 Sep 2018 00:21:41
All you need to do is play to your strengths

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13 Sep 2018 00:08:29
I hope this isn’t true

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09 Sep 2018 02:54:41
Feeling hard done by then ff?

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19 Sep 2018 23:08:21
That’s what it’s all about is t it skeggy? Credit where it’s due but no one can say AK hasn’t put himself up for criticism. Hope it’s all credit from now on👍🍻

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19 Sep 2018 07:10:47
Bererton would have got his chance!! And missed it 🤣

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16 Sep 2018 00:45:50
Mardy, arrogant, sulk at our club?? No way is there enough people to come on here and be at the club?? 🤣

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13 Sep 2018 00:14:01
Ff-You have to judge him under karanks leadership , he signed him and he is picking the sides - you can’t judge him any other way??

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07 Sep 2018 21:54:18
Stevie-i can’t work out our recent recruitment plan but i'm looking forward to someone getting hold of this squad and getting something out of it . We just need to do the basics and play to our strengths. I usually back pro coaches and managers as they are so much more aware of tactics, coaching methods, other teams tactics etc. But I really think my old football coach would do better than AK - keep it simple, play your position and play guys who are in form. Simple isn’t it?

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