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05 Oct 2025 16:05:22
Stop blaming the players and start blaming our owner.

Marinakis met Postecoglu in July at a Greek awards/ draw ceremony i believe.
This is after he ran on pitch and berated Nuno at the end of last season.
This is after he hired Edu.
This is after Edu started sanctioning £200m of new signings, which one assumes Nuno had little say in. How are they working out?

No wonder Nuno got hacked off. Was he so wrong to say he didn't have the same relationship with Mr M as before?

This may go down as the worst managerial change in Prem history. Can anyone think of a worse one?

Mr M has to make a change and it needs to be a good one. But who knows what the players are thinking and who knows who comes next.

Mr M has done a lot of good in his time of course - but he now needs to step up and make a change and start a process of renewal at the club.

ForestCAgen

1.) 05 Oct 2025 21:17:09
With apologies I should have asked for that to go on Banter site.


2.) 06 Oct 2025 05:48:20
Marinakis is like Trumpty but without the dementia.


3.) 06 Oct 2025 12:58:33
ForestCAgen, quite remarkable turn around by Mr Marinakis, from giving Nuno a new contract, then a break down in communication between the two in 7 weeks, it may cost us a season fighting for our Premier league place?.


4.) 06 Oct 2025 17:48:33
The contract gave Nuno the opportunity to say what he actually thought knowing he, d be expensive to sack, but M with more money than sense decided he show who is Boss.
Act in haste repent at leisure.


5.) 08 Oct 2025 21:23:32
I blame the players who were already here and whoever didn't recruit sufficient cover in defence. The new manager and Nuno made mistakes (we've been sh14 since April 1st last season) but the form of our key players is nowhere (MGW, Wood, CHO and recently Sels) and the new boss doesn't even have half of the defence that Nuno was lucky didn't get injured last season.

SO who didn't sign what we need? Who is not capable of doing a job this season like put a ball in the net? Who gives the ball away all the time (I'll give you a clue: It definitely isn't Ange and is MGW). Who caused the injuries to our defence (CLUE: NOt Ange).

I'm sick of hearing the hate that is based on Tabloid BS. Grow a pair and admit what the real problems are at Forest!


 

 

 

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07 Feb 2026 14:51:26
Well done Leeds.

Been a Forest fan for over 40 years. The owner is always rolling the dice, always getting involved and eventually you run out of luck. That day is coming.

Let’s not write down all the interventions he has made - Clattenburg, on the pitch with the Ref, on the pitch with Nuno. Endless. It’s a long list.

Recruitment in summer appears woeful - he wanted Edu, he wanted two more managers, and here we are.

I’m no massive fan of Dyche at all, but he inherited this squad. He could get more out of them perhaps? But he’s actually done OK since he arrived given the flux and squad he inherited. Many players trying, many players could do better. But for any employee - however much you were paid - it’s a tough environment with so much constant change around you (managers, tactics, club personnel, senior club members).

Salary at over 90% of revenue apparently, so how does this end if we get relegated?

Woeful, and entirely predictable.

ForestCAgen

1.) 07 Feb 2026 16:05:44
We sell Anderson murrillo MGW, Williams, Malenkov CHO etc get parachute payments and start again,


2.) 07 Feb 2026 16:59:51
Well done Leeds? We gave them the result through poor team selection, buy a decent left back and don't play him, play a new keeper who has had literally days to get used to the players in front of him. Play one of the best right full backs in the Premier league on the left.

Yes its easy to picks holes after the game but how many times should we accept his excuses and mistakes? We're sleep walking into the championship with this clown in charge. ?.


3.) 07 Feb 2026 17:29:04
If we were to be relegated, could we sell those players?
It is not as straightforward as starting again.
How long did it take Nottingham Forest to return to the Premier League?
I would prefer us to scrape through and survive rather than starting again.


If Forest were relegated, would Mr. Marinakis still be interested in the club despite investing significantly and making a number of rash decisions?


4.) 07 Feb 2026 17:32:45
To have not made any changes at HT was ridiculous, everyone could see what was wrong but he did note, then few minutes after it's 3 and game over

If we don't get 3 points weds think it'll turn toxic very quickly.


 

 

06 Feb 2026 20:43:35
You can point the finger at Dyche, and perhaps his selection is sub-par around the edges. But the reality is that the recruitment was so dire, so absolutely awful, that it has left us like this. You cannot blame him for any of that.
Dyche had no say in recuitment.
Mr M wanted Edu and this is where we are. Mr M wanted to change things (again! ) and this is where we are.
Our salary costs are over 90% of our revenue by the way, so under the new squad cost ratio rules from this Summer are in proper do dah. Don’t even get me started on what may happen with this club if we get relegated.
Since we were promoted we are the top 7 spenders (net) as well.

No strategy, no plan, no chance.

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24 Jan 2026 17:08:47
This is going to be a tough watch over the next few months.
What worries me is that the squad look shattered and a bit disillusioned. I know they get paid a fortune but there has been so much change (turmoil? ) at the club anyone would feel a lack of morale. I know we do as fans much of the time too. So will they.

In the first season we stayed up on Taiwo’s goals and Cooper’s love. Let’s hope the leaning tower from Naples can be our man.
We are something like 6/ 7th biggest net spenders since our promotion. For every good purchase there’s been 4 or 5 that appear to have made no difference (yet cost us on PSR massively). What has our strategy been?
I think Nuno will keep WH up - I always have. God knows what happened at the end of his time but he helped spearhead our best season in 30 years before Mr M came on the pitch and started dining with Ange at awards dos. Such a shame. Maybe it was only ever going to last for a year or two. He is a v good manager and they have quality attacking players.
So it’s up to the coach and the players (and SD didn’t sign any of the players). We have enough quality in certain areas but who knows. If you don’t score, you go down.

What I do suspect is this…. It will be a disaster economically if we get relegated. I’d doubt many have relegation clauses. I don’t mean sellable assets like Anderson etc, I mean the lesser lights still on 50-100k/ w.
I also know this. Nothing will consistently improve until the club is run differently. I pray it does but I’m not holding my breath.

Good luck to the guys tomorrow.

ForestCAgen

1.) 24 Jan 2026 18:18:45
Good post forest.


2.) 24 Jan 2026 20:08:32
Spot on Agen. It all went south when that head case Marinakas gave Nuno a dressing down on the pitch. Nuno will have the last laugh when we go down and West Ham survive.


3.) 24 Jan 2026 20:49:39
You are right BL.
We have the 9th highest wage bill in league.
Brentford’a is the 20th.

How you run the club - in every sense - is what decides the outcomes most of the time.


4.) 24 Jan 2026 20:55:11
So what do you suggest then balloons?
Get rid of our owner? "The headcase"?


5.) 24 Jan 2026 21:14:25
Spot on, Big Larry. 100% in agreement ?.


6.) 24 Jan 2026 22:09:00
Well give up your seat rhr and move on cus the owner isn't, have you forgot where we where before he took over?
I haven't and been to Wembley twice and seen the city ground packed week in and week out.

So let's get rid of the bank and go back to fighting relegation in the championship at least youll be happy we haven't got a head case owning the club to moan about, that's what some of you are calling for
Bet Sheffield Wednesday fsns would love the backing of our owner.


 

 

23 Jan 2026 07:30:43
I watched last night and I would say that is in the top 5 worst performances since we have been back in the Prem. Easily. I couldn’t believe how bad we were.
Whilst some had a bad game, we have spent several hundreds of £m - unbelievable sums - and are reliant on about 5/ 6 players with seemingly no real depth anywhere else of note.
I’ll say it once and I’ll say it again, nothing will change until the club is run differently, by which I mean totally differently, in my view.
I know some people are in awe of our owner and love to say ‘be careful what you wish for’ when anyone dares to criticise - and I don’t debate the good things he has done, and the sums involved - but the stewardship and running of the club appear (from the outside looking in) to be below the standards needed for staying in the Prem (let alone consistently doing well).
I won’t defend Dyche for the sake of it, but he has inherited the worst summer transfer window one could imagine. I can not believe how poor some of those players look at time.
But that may be unfair to them? These new players are on their 3rd manager in a few months, were signed by a head of football (Wilson) who himself has left and it was orchestrated by Edu, who may not last himself.

What is morale like behind the scenes with so many changes?
For every manager you see leave, there has always been changes in other staff and eventually you just have likely failure.
In the near term the price of this is bad results and the inability to buy a decent striker in this window due to PSR. In the medium term, we will probably (in my view) get relegated and the club will go down with unworkable debt. At least that’s my honest, if negative, view. I’m fed up with it.
You may not like me saying that but it feels like it is going to happen. If we don’t get relegated this year, it is highly likely it will happen next year based on what is in front of us.
The constant change at the club and wierd decisions is what has brought us here. It’s a huge shame and arguably a huge missed opportunity, but without a top to bottom change in how things are done, we should enjoy our stay in the Prem and Europe whilst we can.

ForestCAgen

1.) 23 Jan 2026 08:04:29
Agen that is an absolutely superb post mate. Hits the nail on the head. I don’t think we will go down though. But the recruitment and instability at the club is dire.
Last night ( and other occasions) was a case of reaping what you sow.


2.) 23 Jan 2026 08:11:03
If we do go down we could be financially crippled with players on high wages and their value will plummet. Profitability will drop as well. Get Dyche gone before its to late.


3.) 23 Jan 2026 08:26:41
Dave 99 no we won’t we will sell MGW Anderson, murrillo Williams sels Aina CHO etc, and go down with parachute payments.


4.) 23 Jan 2026 09:35:49
That's OK stevie but if we go down we won't get half as much money fir them players.


5.) 23 Jan 2026 10:09:07
Skegs it depends mate, I think Murillo and Anderson would cause a bidding war, we would have enough not to be in financial trouble.


6.) 23 Jan 2026 10:31:08
I’ll just say one thing…. Dyche has been here for 3 months. The best manager we ever had, Cloughie, had a much worse half season than Dyche so far when he was appointed.
On this basis, some of you lot on here would have got rid of the great man and foregone the 18 years of glory that followed.
To a large extent it doesn’t matter what any of us think, it’s down to our trigger happy and erratic owner.
My own view is that any manager should be in post for at least one ( and preferably two) transfer windows and a pre season to work with an in place squad.


Dyche has had none of this and BC took a season and a half before he worked his magic. People forget, there were some absolutely dire performances, on occasion, even under a genius like him.
Luckily for us, the commitee gave him time and chose to remember his Derby days rather than his Brighton and Leeds stints….


 

 

09 Jan 2026 22:33:59
Well done Wrexham, hats off to a great effort by them.

This is our net spend below (league position in brackets) in the 4 seasons since we got promoted. Think it puts us in top 6 in Prem over that time.

25/ 26: £-97.28m
24/ 25: £-15.58m (7th)
23/ 24: £-42.28m (17th)
22/ 23: £-167.48m (16th)

For sure we have signed some good players in that - MGW, CHO, Murillo, EA, Wood, some others - but so much has been wasted.

I know there are a lot of people who say ‘be careful for what you wish for’ as it can worse (Fawaz, Scholar, others we remember). But the simple fact is the club is not seemingly well run. We are also a club people now seem to almost laugh at.

Is it any surprise that many of the apparently worst run clubs, end up getting the weakest results? Wolves, West Ham, Us, Spurs, MUtd.

I’m just so fed up with it. It’s all such a waste of an opportunity. We have all waited so long. What is our plan?

We may well stay up - just - but we are totally reliant on about 5/ 6 quality players + we have an owner who is never likely to stop moving on coaches, hiring and firing, maybe even marching onto the pitch again. It doesn’t help.

It’s such madness. Why oh why can we not just have a plan, some stable, senior club management, and a constant approach.

Don’t even get me started on the bulk of the summer signings.

Am I enamoured by Dyche - no I am not.

But nothing will really change, until our whole approach changes. Everything else is noise.

ForestCAgen

1.) 09 Jan 2026 23:36:09
Good post pal
It's annoying isn't it
But we were never ready for Europe
List the two most influential players from last season and their goals and assists
Elanga and wood
The players bought in just don't get the pace of the premier, bakwa ndoye?
They both want to. play in their own time
Thise two will never hack the premier with that attitude
Dyche hasn't a clue tactically and is by passing the best midfielders we have had
Jesus has to fight a losing battle every game with those tactics
Premier survival is all that matters now
We'll be out of Europe soon and Dyche fate will be sealed along with stone and woan and cheerio ho to them
Re group in the summer with a new coach who won't be English.


2.) 10 Jan 2026 03:52:02
Good measured post Agen.


 

 

 

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24 Jan 2026 20:46:10
Why would Silva go to Forest? Genuinely. Zero chance.

We have the 9th highest wage bill and the 17th team. Brentford tomorrow have the lowest wage bill in the league by the way. Just over half of ours.

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05 Oct 2025 21:17:09
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06 Feb 2026 22:14:48
Guardiola couldn’t make Jesus a top Prem striker. Guardiola couldn’t make Morata a decent Prem defender. Guardiola doesn’t want Ortega. This is largely down to recruitment. Why don't people see this? Yes Dyche is defensive, yes it is a hard watch, but that’s what you get with him.

Unless you forget, the results were a lot worse with Ange. Nuno would have kept us up in my view but he was binned. The recruitment has been woeful. Edu at fault for sure I guess, but who hired Edu? Who wanted Edu?

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06 Feb 2026 22:10:54
Yes. 3 managers and none has been the get them to play well for any consistent period of time.

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06 Feb 2026 21:44:27
This is 90% down to recruitment, which has been dire for quite a chunk of our time since promotion (given the money we have spent). As I said earlier, our wages are >90% of our revenue, so once the new squad cost ratio rules come in this Summer we will be in proper trouble possibly.

Don’t even think about what happens if we are relegated.
Mr M wanted change. He wanted Edu. Mr M always wants change seemingly. Here we are.

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24 Jan 2026 20:49:39
You are right BL.
We have the 9th highest wage bill in league.
Brentford’a is the 20th.

How you run the club - in every sense - is what decides the outcomes most of the time.

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03 Jan 2026 21:15:49
Great post StokeyRed.

I never thought we would stay long in the Prem because of this approach. Outside of the football squad, we have lots of incomings, outgoings etc too (Wilson recently, others). Never any stability….

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