Nottingham Forest Banter

17 Jul 2026 11:31:36
Tuchel: 10 reasons why he should be sacked.
1. Not taking Trent A Arnold as RB
2. Taking Henderson along in squad as water carrier
3. Not taking Maguire Hall or Luke Shaw
4. Not taking the form 20 in the Prem MGW
5. Taking 3 unfit players James Saka and Stones.


6. Not playing Watkins and Mainoo when Kane and Rice were knackered.
7. Terrible subs against Argentina.
8. Not using Rashford instead of Madueke.
9. Blaming the players for a poor performance in Mexico 😡
10. Criticising English DNA.

{Ed001's Note - surely not taking Gibbs-White was his biggest mistake? He was the in form English player at the end of the season.}

17 Jul 2026 13:16:14
Spot on Ed👍🌳

17 Jul 2026 13:53:06
Good post, Munmad! There's a rumour on the BBC football site that several senior players expressed their disappointments.
He's probably lost the changing room, but he's got 2 years to the Euros, so time is on his side, I think.

17 Jul 2026 14:06:54
He'll be gone by Monday, Stokey imo.

17 Jul 2026 14:23:19
I personally think this is the "wurst" German decision since Operation Barbarossa in 1941 (did you see what I did there). 😂😂😂

17 Jul 2026 16:30:29
Messi has made a statement, saying the Argentine players thought they'd blown it when England scored. But then they watched Tuchel make the subs, and they couldn't believe it, they were on the ropes and England threw the towel in!

17 Jul 2026 17:41:16
Messi didn't need to make a statement, we all saw it unfold in front of us. The limpest display I've ever seen. 🌳

17 Jul 2026 16:32:30
For a German to insult the DNA of English players is surely unpardonable and unforgivable. Worthy of the sack alone never mind the debacle of Wednesday night. If I were Bellingham or Kane or Anderson I would down tools

17 Jul 2026 19:00:59
Has to go for that reason alone, Nuno.
I hope France batter us and action to remove him is taken.

17 Jul 2026 20:24:58
I honestly think there should be a gentleman's agreement for tomorrow's game. Both sides should take the p***, play walking football, make it go to pens, and purposely miss them all until it's the keeper's turn, then they face each other. If it's still level, rinse and repeat whilst sticking two fingers up to FIFA. 🌳

17 Jul 2026 20:32:50
Or, play with Rush keepers. 😁 🌳

17 Jul 2026 20:31:08
I won't be watching winter, iv'e sruck two fingers up to England whilst ever big ears is in charge and maje no mistake he will be in charge for the euroes, so iv'e got two years off international football at least and that will be harder to win than the world cup

17 Jul 2026 22:49:53
He will be gone by Monday, Dtp, he's lost the dressing room with his comments.

17 Jul 2026 23:36:01
He won't, Munmad. The FA will see it as an achievement to get to the semi-final.
In all honesty, we didn't have to play a decent team till we got there.
But we all know the white suit FA lot, so he'll get a new contract.
That's football life, mate.
It hurts me more that I was nine in 1966, and we haven't been allowed to host it since.
I want that for my children and grandchildren, but in all honesty it won't happen.

17 Jul 2026 11:19:30
Never wanted Tuchel in the first place. He is no better than Southgate and at least Gareth was a passionate Englishman.

Please FA go for Eddie Howe or Michael Carrick or if non English break the bank for Guardiola.

17 Jul 2026 09:04:21
So according to Tommy Turtle, there is something wrong with English DNA? That same DNA won us two World Wars, my reptilian friend. 🖕🌳

17 Jul 2026 12:47:44
Never mind the Barbie extension, where's that written statement, Barry? Remember to time, date and sign it, otherwise it's inadmissible, mate. 😂😂😂😂
Glad to see Paul is back. Remember "to me, to you". 😂😂😂

17 Jul 2026 13:17:05
Seems he's dipped into one bin too many and disappeared. 👍🌳

16 Jul 2026 21:52:17
I ask a question.
Why have we got a scouse number two coming on at half time telling us all what's going wrong?

17 Jul 2026 06:37:00
Goodness knows, I seem to recall something about a past in Accrington Stanley! A question from myself - how many Argentinian players play their football in Argentina?

17 Jul 2026 10:48:24
That's a great question, Nono.
Of Argentina's starting 11, only 1 (Paraedes) plays in Argentina, plus 2 subs (Otomendi and Montiel).

Brazil have the most players playing in foreign leagues by far.

In answer to DTP's assertion that "half" the Argentine team play in the Premier League, in fact the starting 11 contained 4, including Martinez the goalkeeper (who, by definition, won't have run many miles).


Crucially, exactly none of the game changing 5 subs of Argentina's play in the Premier League.

Of England's starting 11, only 2 play outside the Premier League (Kane and Bellingham).
Of the 5 English subs, only Rashford and Toney play outside the Premier League.

DTP, as I've remarked before, mate, you need to tighten up on the detail, mate. You would never make a detective. 🕵️ 😂😂😂

17 Jul 2026 11:24:31
Excluding Martinez the Goalkeeper.

17 Jul 2026 11:40:59
Bet that kept you up all night. 😁😂😂

17 Jul 2026 13:01:08
Took me two minutes on Google as a refresher, mate. You should check the facts before you rush into print.
To be fair, I agreed with most of your analysis.
After Gordon scored, bring on Saka and Rashford for Kane: fresh legs, counter-attacking pace, and the ability to buy fouls to break up play, cause frustration, and give the defence a break.

They'd have lost discipline and had players sent off.
Tuchel got most things right up to this match, when he got it completely wrong. As somebody on here said, there's no glory in reaching a semi-final, but there's certainly more than being knocked out in the group, last 32, last 16, or last 8. Ask any Scot, German, Mexican, or Dutchman.

17 Jul 2026 20:06:11
Always knew you were a googler.
Hats off to the laughing policeman from the University of Google, I prefer the university of life. 😁😂😂🥂

17 Jul 2026 21:10:57
Yes, DTP, 30 years as a frontline operational police officer, in a major UK city, I've led a very sheltered life, mate. 😂😂 🙄🙄

17 Jul 2026 21:19:17
Yes, and don't we all know it. 😂😂😂

17 Jul 2026 21:16:02
To be honest Mate, most of us who frequent the WFCG know who the Premier Leagues Argentinian footballers are because we've seen them
It's best imo to double check to make sure you don't come across as a complete fool don't you think? Er . hang on .😂😂😂

17 Jul 2026 22:05:34
How can you make yourself look a fool on a banter site where you have an alias user name?
The only fool is yourself by keep trying to make yourself look more intellegent than anyone else on the site with your quotes from famous people
Its impossible to feel foolish, but then again your mr serious 😁😂😂😂

16 Jul 2026 16:48:21
There's a time and a place to park the bus and leading one nil with still 40 minutes to go against the World Champions led by the best attacking player on the planet was neither.
Should have carried on doing what we were doing. Keeping possession and staying toe to toe, then breaking play up. As the match went on, Argentina would have had to throw everything forward then we hit them on the break, finish them off, coup de grace.
Instead, Agent Tuchel brings on 6 defenders? What sort of message does that send to Argentina? Come at us and they did. I blame last night's debacle entirely on the manager.

We lost primarily because TT handed the initiative back to the opposition when he had them reeling.


Gave them a chance and they are too good a team (and massively pumped up) not to take it.
Contributing factors included weak reffing (How does a player commit 5 fouls in the first 15 minutes, including a karate chop to the back of Ando's neck, without a booking at least?)
Plus, most of our Premier League players have played many more games than their opponents over the season except the likes of Stones who have hardly played any recently. Rice and Ando have shouldered most of the burden and showed it.
Squad selection? Henderson? Toney? Watkins? No MGW? What’s that all about?
Altitude v Mexico then extra time v Norway took its toll.
But the main reason was TT’s awful, awful tactical brain fade.

16 Jul 2026 20:08:16
Tuchel will never change, so you've got years of it to watch stokey.
I personally won't bother watching again while he's in charge.

Half the Argentina side play in the Premier too, so that's no excuse.
If you go that defensive, you still need an outlet.


Kane should have gone off, as he has no pace and doesn't fit in with an ultra defensive unit.
It needed Saka or Rashford.
Basically Tommy screwed up, but won't admit it.
France will tear us to bits and hopefully he will go, but he won't.

16 Jul 2026 20:56:22
The whole country shoulders the disappointment, having been 11 in 66 I remembered the team to this day! So, yes, immortality awaited them in 2026. Once more we had a straightforward run up. Remember the run up to the Croatia semi.

The players did absolutely do what Tt tells them, ie Bellingham playing deep. What Tt didn’t apparently see was Messi moving wide. Who did he organise to mark him - not still Anderson, surely? As both Argentina’s goals then came from Messi’s boot. Tt has no excuses; he had a hydration break midway of the second half. Do they have an autocratic manager that does not allow feedback? ie both Kane, Bellingham, Anderson, all the players and subs must have seen what was going to happen. Did no one watch the Swiss or Egyptian match beforehand, how two sudden breaks by the right back led to two superb goals - although one disallowed.

Spence, the last two matches, has been given his freedom as he was at Forest and terrorised Argentina. He was in the wrong side with Gordon as they don’t gel. Those of us at that certain age we reach have seen it all before since 66. Bonetti, Beckham, Rooney, penalty mishaps. For some reason, managers of England bar Sir Alf have failed. I cannot see us winning the World Cup in the remainder of my life. It’s no use saying we have such and such up and coming player, as that has always been the case. Michael Owen echoed all of our thoughts on the unbelievable Tt's substitutions. Of course, we all now get on with our lives, and yes it is only a game, but made especially galling in the Argentina celebrations.

16 Jul 2026 21:05:24
The difference from 1966 is one sub.
Having the choice to play five has ruined the game imo.
Sub was there in case of injury.
No, it's "I picked the wrong side"?
I'll shut up shop?
Those options weren't there, and rightly so.

17 Jul 2026 12:38:08
I like to call it 'Frank Bruno Syndrome'.

It's where you have someone on the ropes but lack the confidence/killer instinct to go finish someone off.

We sat back way too early and got what we deserved in the end. They could have had 3 or 4. We played right into their hands.
Tuchel had actually done alright until this match.