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02 Jan 2024 20:11:37
Worrying reports tonight that the Premier League are looking at us over financial fair play. Shame given some of the dross we have paid out for -I know we sold Johnson but it could be a serious matter for us.

RedFrog

1.) 03 Jan 2024 06:51:49
They may stop us getting anymore players, which is not such a bad thing?.


2.) 03 Jan 2024 07:54:37
The Premier League will take Chelsea's and City's points deduction and give it to us and the Toffee's.


3.) 03 Jan 2024 09:29:07
Could effect a potential Navas loan?


4.) 03 Jan 2024 11:54:34
The PL is looking at everyone, it's the annual check of club accounts and we (and every other club) will find out if we've been good boys or not on 14th January. It's only the press that are targetting Forest as 'most likely', no the PL.


5.) 03 Jan 2024 14:08:01
I think we'll probably be OK:-

A few points.

We spent around 85m on wages last season; this excludes any income we received from players going out on loan.

Our liability on amortised transfer fees for last season was around 50m, you can add another 5m on top of that for loan fees.

That comes to around 140m

Our earnings from the PL will be a minimum of 114m

Our earnings from gate receipts will be around 30m, with another couple of million for the cup run.

We should have cleared another 5m from commercial rights and another 2m for additional corporate earnings.

I would guess that our earnings will be at least 150m - that would give a 30m margin of error - 10m plus the 20m we are allowed to lose

The Premier League allows any losses directly caused by the c.v. to be discounted from FFP calculations. Forest have previously said that the adverse impact of c.v. was £16.7million across 2019-20 and 2020-21.

Where we do have a problem is promotion bonuses for the year we went up. We didn't budget for these, so probably went outside the limit that season. Will we be sanctioned for that? If so, I'd say it is unlikely to be a 10 point deduction effectively for getting promoted unexpectedly.


6.) 03 Jan 2024 15:10:47
Interesting analysis RC. I've read that our championship losses used up our 'allowance'. £13 million per season and £35 million for first PL season, we overspent by £61 million before promotion.
Crux will be, what have we spent and generated in our first season back?
It would appear we're not allowed any losses, so BJ sale could be crucial. I like Forest in the news but prefer if it was footballing issues.


7.) 03 Jan 2024 22:31:21
Brennan Johnson transfer fee was 'pure profit'. Which apparently is quite important when factored into FFP. Not totally sure, though, as I've not really looked into that side of it all.


8.) 04 Jan 2024 08:44:55
Accounts for 2022/ 23 ended June, Johnson was sold in September so won't be included in the accounts.

Forest will argue they kept him beyond June to claim an extra £10m+ on his transfer fee.

Think it's going to be tight. Hopefully Big M has a few contacts.


9.) 04 Jan 2024 16:48:39
Steve, the big man does have contacts but unfortunately they’re all in Greece mate! ??.


10.) 08 Jan 2024 17:07:18
Eric Dier offered to Forest on loan apparently. sounds like rubbish to me!


 

 

14 Jun 2023 17:42:55
Brentford bid 30 million for Johnson.

Dream on.

Who’s been smoking the crack pipe down in London? Obviously we rejected out of hand.

RedFrog

1.) 14 Jun 2023 19:19:09
Has to be untouchable this window.


2.) 14 Jun 2023 22:11:23
Ivan Toney bet on us keeping him so must be good.


3.) 17 Jun 2023 10:25:44
He will want another year with us at least to establish himself as a top striker.


 

 

16 Apr 2023 13:31:07
Well I’m in the boozer before kick off. Big rumours that Steven Gerard will be at the City Ground today. So keep your eyes out folks ?.

RedFrog

1.) 16 Apr 2023 14:03:55
More likely to be keeping an eye on parked cars for a few quid than anything else.


2.) 16 Apr 2023 14:14:02
I don’t think a young inexperienced manager such as Gerrard or Viera have any chance of saving Forest, infact it’s frying pan into the fire. Who did Crystal Palace replace Viera with a 70 yr old. We would be better with a Sam A, Harry, or Benitez.


3.) 16 Apr 2023 14:29:11
Sacking Vieira worked for palace as they brought in a manger who knows the club and players. Sacking the manager hasn't helped southampton or Leicester.


4.) 16 Apr 2023 16:30:00
'arry has sunk every club he's been to!


 

 

12 Apr 2023 06:09:41
Forest in talks with Rangers Sporting Director Ross Wilson. Let’s hope if he does come he doesn’t sign the likes of Wood, Shelvey etc.

RedFrog

1.) 12 Apr 2023 20:49:19
Did a great job at Southampton by all accounts.


2.) 13 Apr 2023 06:44:06
Let's give it a go and see what happens. Januaya complete disaster in the transfer market ?.


 

 

11 Apr 2023 18:39:09
sporting director, Filippo Giraldi, has been relieved of duties

Only been here 6 months.

Big M sharpening his ace as we speak.

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1.) 12 Apr 2023 12:02:35
To me that indicates once again he's not happy with the transfers we've brought in.


 

 

 

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25 Mar 2024 11:49:41
The international break has come at just the wrong time for us. The feeling of injustice that Everton players had will now have subsided- I can’t see us getting more than 2 points from our next three games. We really are in a pickle. If Luton snatch a win then Nuno will be under the cosh.

RedFrog

1.) 25 Mar 2024 12:31:51
3 points Saturday cheer up.


2.) 25 Mar 2024 12:46:33
If Nino goes who in their right mind would want to come. I’m not a fan of Nino but we may stick with him and take stock at the end of the season come what may.


3.) 25 Mar 2024 13:21:25
Never mind “Nuno out”, it should have never been “Nuno in” in the first place. Got lucky by being given a fantastic crop of Portuguese talent at wolves, got laughed out of Spurs and drummed out of Saudi. But people seem to think he’s good enough for us ?
Bloke seems spineless and completely disinterested to me.


4.) 25 Mar 2024 13:29:33
They're going to wait until the end of the season anyway see if we stay up or not. Marinakissmyarse needs to stop running the club as he does in Greece, him and his cronies. But a leapord and spots and all that, so nothing will change. Reckon Cooper told him as much, let's keep it settled no need for changes this season. Reckon he was told to button it and just coach not manage, hence the falling out and disagreements.


5.) 25 Mar 2024 13:41:45
Conspiracy theories Clough cooper got sacked because he wasn't getting results


6.) 25 Mar 2024 15:31:04
Of course Skeggy Jay if Cooper wins more he still has a job. But one hand tied behind your back and players turn up to train you don't know are coming in can only spell trouble. Nuno will soon find out if he doesn't win the next couple games what a egotistical numb nuts Marinakissmyarse is.


7.) 25 Mar 2024 15:48:52
Agree on Nuno Clough if he doesn't start getting results he will be gone to let's just hope he does I don't want us to go down and lose our best players and start all over again.


8.) 25 Mar 2024 18:03:17
Agree pal the tea lady could manage us if she kept us up. Need to stay up by any means, hook or crook. Dive, cheat like the rest don't care. Going down is not an option for us or we up the proverbial rubbish creek without a boat never mind a paddle.


9.) 25 Mar 2024 19:18:37
Couple of days ago skeggs you were saying all our players were rubbish, so what's changed your mind, do you know someone we don't.


10.) 25 Mar 2024 22:55:27
“Nino” is the kid Vale.


11.) 26 Mar 2024 03:14:32
Yes, it's my dyslexia again.


 

 

23 Mar 2024 21:13:00
Just watching England and thinking the FA are wasting a generation of talent under Southgate.
Foden has hardly had a decent game for England yet stars week in week out for City. Imagine what we could achieve with a quality manager and this pool of players.

RedFrog

1.) 23 Mar 2024 21:52:57
That's cus he don't have to play with the likes of Gallagher and Gordon
Not in the same league as Forden.


2.) 23 Mar 2024 22:47:16
Apparently Southgate is wanted by United? Is the rst of the country missing something?


3.) 24 Mar 2024 07:51:26
Have a read of man utd banter, there supporters do not want him, bit like when we got McClaren.


4.) 24 Mar 2024 08:25:11
Waste of time watching England, Redfrog. Pointless friendlies disrupting the season. All international matches should be played at the end of the season. Or not at all. Southgate is not a good coach or manager, by the way.


5.) 24 Mar 2024 09:41:52
Oh dear lads never happy it could be a lot worse they could give cooper the job ?.


6.) 24 Mar 2024 11:27:24
Skeg I said I’d never answer you again, but you continue to try and ridicule a bloke who picked this club up off the floor, and got it to the premier league, he created a bond between club and fans I’ve never seen before, and that includes the clough days Because Brian often disrespected the Forest fans,


7.) 24 Mar 2024 12:43:49
Didn't take you long not to answer me Stevie I knew you would miss me and Stevie it wasn't just him that gout us to the premier League there was a group of players as well mate most who have gone because they wasn't good enough for the premier League like cooper mate ?.


8.) 24 Mar 2024 13:13:10
Skegs Ed was decent enough to edit my post, it didn’t convey what I really thought of you, but you’re nothing short of a trolll, and about as funny as a kick in the b*****ks.


9.) 24 Mar 2024 13:36:07
Feelings mutual Stevie boy and troll lol is that the best you can come up with just because I think cooper wasn't up to the job of the premiership as proved right obviously because he was sacked and because I wasn't memorised by his odd fist pumps I'm a troll ?? and a derby and Leicester fan ??? his football was boring as hell while he was in premiership and his miserable face and interviews matched that. you won't change my opinion and I won't change yours it's that simples.


10.) 24 Mar 2024 13:45:42
Skegs wheras nunos football is breathtaking, and winning, ?


11.) 24 Mar 2024 13:57:30
Did I say it was but still a dam site better than the season and half of Cooper's ??.


12.) 24 Mar 2024 14:19:26
His ‘ style’ is no different Except Cooper got us promoted and kept us up, and also made the city ground a difficult place to visit, different under this” proven ‘ prem manager,


13.) 24 Mar 2024 15:04:17
There's a big difference Stevie if Nuno doesn't succeed he will be gone before the season is out there won't be happy clappers hanging on to him even if his results and football his crap for a season and half pal anyway has I said you won't change my mind on my opinion on him and it's been lovely commenting to each other again I've missed it pal but time to move on we've got palace coming up 3 points get behind the man in charge of forest uuuuunnnuuuunnnnooooooo urrrrreeeeedddsss.


14.) 24 Mar 2024 15:14:47
Skegs cooper never failed us, all he did here was succeed, the proven prem manager, has sucked all the life out of the club, the city ground was a place no one wanted to come under cooper, like I said this bloke has the charisma and personality of a house brick,


15.) 24 Mar 2024 15:31:44
You was obviously blinded by Cooper's fist pumps if you think he had a personality ????.


16.) 24 Mar 2024 16:22:15
Skegs and you’re obviously clueless.


17.) 24 Mar 2024 18:37:29
Stevie. Leave it mate. He's just not worth the effort of typing.
There was a lad in my primary class just as stupid.


18.) 24 Mar 2024 19:04:24
Not sure why a little boy from Leicester is worried about fist pumps, definitely hasn't got a clue what Cooper bought to forest.


19.) 25 Mar 2024 11:11:23
He didn't bring us results hence the sack my little Derbyshire pal.


 

 

21 Mar 2024 21:05:12
Reading through the posts over the last few days and a wave of optimism seems apparent- one that we will win enough games to survive. Whilst I hope that is the case, we need to remember this team we have struggles to score goals and can’t defend- especially against set pieces. If I were any coach playing us I would make sure Forest were pressured not so much in and around our box but generally on each wing of the final third. An inability to defend such set pieces is glaringly obvious and something Nuno can’t seem to correct.
With us offering little threat up front, opposing teams can be safe to overload such areas to good effect. That’s just an honest observation. Man Utd did that well in the last 10 minutes of the FA Cup match.
So either Nuno comes up with some sort of offensive plan to mitigate this problem or we will continue to struggle. After all the best form of defence is attack. It’s down to the coach now, and sadly I don’t think he has it in his locker to sort out these problems.

RedFrog

1.) 21 Mar 2024 21:21:24
Good post froggy son ?.


2.) 21 Mar 2024 21:31:13
Lol redfrog so the best form of defence is attack after nearly a season and half of parking the bus that you was happy with best statement of the year ??.


3.) 21 Mar 2024 21:41:03
So the best form of defence is attack then skeggs?
Brian clough would argue with that
His philosophy was to build from the back and have a solid defence first
And you can't argue with the greatest.


4.) 21 Mar 2024 22:08:22
Thank you DTP ? you've just agreed with what I said to redfrog I love you agreeing with me now I will sleep well nighty night.


5.) 22 Mar 2024 05:14:44
It’s a philosophy Skegs that most decent coaches have. Attack first, and let the opponent worry about stopping you, rather than the other way round. Sadly perhaps you and Nuno don’t quite grasp that facet of football.
Cooper did what he could with the dross the club accumulated as playing staff. Nuno is hardly doing any better is he? In fact I would say we are worse under Nuno, the heart has been ripped out of the club and the team spirit seems rather poor to me.


6.) 22 Mar 2024 07:49:55
Frog again you've completely lost me so your saying attacking football is best form of defence and cooper couldn't do that with the dross he had but Nuno should be able to ?? 2nd best comment of the year.


7.) 22 Mar 2024 09:35:00
Skegs your either a bit simple or trolling ?. The club is in a worse state now than when cooper was in charge. The team has no cohesion, the fans not together and behind the team. Nuno looks clueless and to be honest disinterested. But let’s not let facts get in the way.


8.) 22 Mar 2024 10:00:22
I don't after put a comment to that redfrog like I said your 2 comments above the one you just put show how clueless you are mate and still make no sense whatsoever.


9.) 22 Mar 2024 10:33:57
Actually skegs red frog has a valid point. You don’t see Man City sitting back, there on the attack from the first whistle. Just as long as your defence is in tune with the flow of the game and can see a possible break down in the attack and get back in numbers, there’s no reason for it not to work. But I’m afraid nuno lacks vision. Please correct me if I’m wrong but has he ever tried to connect to the fans, I can’t remember on any occasion.


10.) 22 Mar 2024 11:14:15
Oh my god it must be me a season and half under cooper of parking the bus with the same players Nuno has and you was happy with cooper playing defensive football now you want attacking football ??? and works both ways with the fans I'm off to give my head a wobble enjoy this conversation between yourselves because you've lost me.


11.) 22 Mar 2024 11:59:15
The REALfans loved cooper win or loose he always showed his appreciation to us. We’ve the heart ripped out of our club, and your correct it is a two way street, and when nuno shows a little love and more importantly gets his head around how much the club means to us, then i'd hope that two way street can be re opened. Coopers gone but he will never be forgotten.


12.) 22 Mar 2024 15:46:26
Absolutely Red Vale. Agree 100%
Don’t let Skegs get to you mate, some think on here that he’s a troll and most probably a Leicester or Derby fan in disguise. But he’s off to give his head a wobble so that’s ok. ? keep wobbling Skegs?
In the real world of Premier league football you’re completely correct- Nuno has done very little since arriving apart from moaning and whining. If he were to achieve what Cooper has achieved the fans would love him. But talking to many people they don’t.


 

 

19 Mar 2024 06:32:23
If you want a fair and honest assessment of the points deduction listen to Simon Jordan. He’s never usually far from the truth.
As many have pointed out the situation would, we hope, act as a galvanising force bringing the players closer together. However if it does not, and we continue to struggle under Nuno, the place will become toxic. I will cheer the lads on no matter who manages or owns the club, but I can’t help but feel we have all been let down so badly. Surely the club knew the rules, we aren’t a special case and to the Premier League we are just another promoted championship club. Our history counts for nothing.
The crazy thing is, the FFP brought in to “protect” clubs may well be the dagger in the back that sends us down. Hardly what it was designed for - and should we get relegated with, reportedly no relegation clauses in players contracts, we would be dead and buried.

RedFrog

1.) 19 Mar 2024 07:01:11
I can't help but think that the moneymen within the club thought we were allowed to lose £105 million over 3 years instead of the £60-odd million that we were actually only allowed to lose. Hench, why we were being told by the club that everything was under control. Mistake? Incompetence? Or just bad money management?


2.) 19 Mar 2024 07:41:57
At the end of the day whoever is in charge of finances got it wrong we got away with 4 points we've lost a lot more than that from winning positions so let's put it behind us now it's down to Nuno and the players to do there job and get us results.


 

 

18 Mar 2024 16:24:41
Well we are in the bottom three now- no complaints from me. The football under Nuno has been so disappointing after a decent start. He looks to me like he couldn’t inspire the crust off a rice pudding and I’m sure the players must pick up on this. He just looks so disinterested.
I think the points deduction was lenient- it won’t make any difference in my opinion anyway because the longer we stick with Nuno the further we will be mired in the relegation zone. All so predictable.

RedFrog

1.) 18 Mar 2024 16:59:10
Redfrog I think you would of only been happy with a demotion to the championship you've never been happy with anything mate maybe if we go down.


2.) 18 Mar 2024 17:47:04
How can we complain? Honestly, how?

Spent loads on a pile of crap, the rules are rules. You tell me two transfer successes and I can give you seven that aren’t. Even you with your inflated ego can’t run a club like that.
Then we have Nuno. I know you love Nuno but to me he is a Charlatan. Just calling things as they are, the proof is in the pudding as they say. And that’s the facts whether you, me or Marinakis like it or not. We are in the. Bottom 3 for a reason.


3.) 18 Mar 2024 18:03:32
Red frog we can complain because the sanctions are being applied even handed, 2words Manchester City, , the premier league is bought and sold by sky,


4.) 18 Mar 2024 18:07:24
To be honest redfrog I wouldn't lose any sleep if maranakis got rid of Nuno tomorrow all I know at the time he came in we wasn't getting results and needed a manager with experience in the premier League and I stand by that still and forever results we need don't care who's in charge.


5.) 18 Mar 2024 18:55:05
Just read the club statement, initially quite impressed. This was tough but measured and I hope that they use this as starter for the appeal. Well said NFFC! Lots of comments critical of promoted clubs' treatment in the Prem.


6.) 18 Mar 2024 19:27:29
I read it to and thought the same Norfolk.


7.) 19 Mar 2024 08:13:34
1 charge compared with 115 is a big clue as to why it's taking longer to sort the City issue.


 

 

 

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12 Feb 2024 20:09:09
Well having seen Sels live he looks crap but his kicking is better than the others. We seem to have a group of goalkeepers who are unable to make saves when it matters.

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29 Nov 2023 21:54:43
The bin dippers couldn’t afford all three.

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21 May 2023 16:52:40
Yes apparently he has interviewed twice for the position.

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18 Sep 2021 10:27:41
Brilliant, another Hughton. Loves 1 up front and lots of defensive midfielders.
More boredom then- and to pay £1.2 million for his services is nothing short of a bad joke.

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07 Aug 2021 10:54:52
I thought he had rejected us earlier preferring to fight for his place and play in premier league?
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25 Mar 2024 13:21:25
Never mind “Nuno out”, it should have never been “Nuno in” in the first place. Got lucky by being given a fantastic crop of Portuguese talent at wolves, got laughed out of Spurs and drummed out of Saudi. But people seem to think he’s good enough for us ?
Bloke seems spineless and completely disinterested to me.

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23 Mar 2024 05:11:31
Bowie mate I just hope all the loons and conspiracy theorists who have been running riot these past couple of months now realise just how foolish they look.
The poor woman has cancer, she needed time with her family after having major abdominal surgery. I wish her a speedy recovery. Anyone who has been touched by cancer knows what a dark and frightening experience it is.

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22 Mar 2024 15:46:26
Absolutely Red Vale. Agree 100%
Don’t let Skegs get to you mate, some think on here that he’s a troll and most probably a Leicester or Derby fan in disguise. But he’s off to give his head a wobble so that’s ok. ? keep wobbling Skegs?
In the real world of Premier league football you’re completely correct- Nuno has done very little since arriving apart from moaning and whining. If he were to achieve what Cooper has achieved the fans would love him. But talking to many people they don’t.

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22 Mar 2024 09:35:00
Skegs your either a bit simple or trolling ?. The club is in a worse state now than when cooper was in charge. The team has no cohesion, the fans not together and behind the team. Nuno looks clueless and to be honest disinterested. But let’s not let facts get in the way.

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22 Mar 2024 05:14:44
It’s a philosophy Skegs that most decent coaches have. Attack first, and let the opponent worry about stopping you, rather than the other way round. Sadly perhaps you and Nuno don’t quite grasp that facet of football.
Cooper did what he could with the dross the club accumulated as playing staff. Nuno is hardly doing any better is he? In fact I would say we are worse under Nuno, the heart has been ripped out of the club and the team spirit seems rather poor to me.

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