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15 Oct 2020 20:42:29
The Lansbury link isn't going away according to reports.

I've seen a lot of negative comments about him on here but I don't agree. forest have desperately needed a midfielder capable of scoring tenn or more goals a season. I'm not sure what midfield you guys have been watching but Lansbury would definitely improve our midfield in my opinion as a goal scoring player and a dead ball specialist.

If Lansbury fits in with the system (s) Hughton will play then I would take a punt on him.


1.) 15 Oct 2020 21:23:02
Been saying the same on here this week cyclist. Totally agree.


2.) 16 Oct 2020 10:10:46
I agree as well, so long as we get the player that did a great job here at Forest when he was here before and not a unfit player looking for a easy time and another pay day, landsbury of old yes please. U REDS.


3.) 16 Oct 2020 13:14:03
Loan for season to prove himself. If we go up. He isn’t good enough for prem.


4.) 17 Oct 2020 09:53:48
Deadball specialist? lol Do we remember Lansbury's deadball delivery? Erratic I'd say.

One good game in five and pretty mediocre the rest of the time. Plus, at least a booking every other game.

But sadly yes, still probably not worse than what we already have lol.


5.) 17 Oct 2020 10:11:26
If lansbury was that great of a midfielder how come he's hardly had a kick at villa or was it when he was at forest the other players were that poor it made him look good.


 

 

20 Sep 2020 14:02:30
does anyone else find it hilarious that Lame-Poochy has stated that players with a knowledge of the Championship are important to help the club get promoted but he is also the right man for the job? Doh!

How about a manager with knowledge of the Championship would be better equipped to guide players who don't have that exerience - like Mighten and the Foreign legion we have?

I heard via a contact of my Dad that Forest have contacted Nigel Pearson's agent but just to put out feelers at this point. Have the owners actually learned something? If they have then they have wasted an awful lot of money with all the coaching staff appointments.


1.) 20 Sep 2020 21:36:13
Obviously you have a different sense of humour 🤣🤣🤣.


2.) 20 Sep 2020 22:35:25
I find it funny but it's also tragic.


3.) 21 Sep 2020 06:51:37
Sabri is just like a lot of other managers they are single minded only playing one way most of forest success over the years as always been with two upfront and a couple of decent wingers why do we have to play the foreign way good old 442, plus sabri might do better if not playing 6 defenders, I'm not one for getting rid of managers but if sabri don't start to learn new tactics then I can see him only having a couple more games before he's gone.


4.) 21 Sep 2020 11:16:27
I know many modern teams don't play 442 but there is a reason I still like the system. Simplicity. Everyones job is easy to understand. It is also a flexible system as you can do things like swith to a diamoned midfield.


5.) 21 Sep 2020 18:32:36
perhaps we can play a pantomime horse type style at the back get some lager shirts and stick two lads in a single shirt! We have enough defenders that's for sure.


 

 

08 Jan 2020 11:41:31
Forest have put in a bid for Ivan Toney. So said a Peterborough fan to me last night.


1.) 08 Jan 2020 13:05:37
Good. I like the look of him.


2.) 08 Jan 2020 13:44:30
No you are in fact incorrect. it's ivor the engine not ivan toney forest have put in a bid for along with uncle bulgaria and finger mouse.


3.) 08 Jan 2020 14:35:03
I know you went away for a while Fawaz.
Do you think they let you out too early? 😉.


4.) 08 Jan 2020 14:54:43
I like the look of him but I bet we don't get him until the summer if we go for him. Shame though because we need hungry fit players right now.


5.) 08 Jan 2020 21:28:01
Interesting that mighten and Johnson didn't take part for the under 23, mighten will be in the matchday squad for reading after his performance against Chelsea of that I'm sure.


6.) 09 Jan 2020 10:05:31
If Mighten isn't in the squad then it sends the wrong signal.


7.) 09 Jan 2020 14:01:46
Mighten as to be in the squad cause as of yet we have no back up for grabbon.


8.) 09 Jan 2020 21:37:50
You can't have a better offensive player on the bench than mighten, he's a managers dream who can play all along the forward line and number ten, which personally I think he will nail that position and will be gone for a record fee before he's 20.
Very good player who needs letting loose, Bellingham at Birmingham is slightly younger and he's been Brill for them so let the lad show us just how good he is, played the full 90 mins against Chelsea proving he has stamina as well.


 

 

30 Dec 2019 14:49:05
Could Glenn Murray be a good short term option as back-up striker. Tyler Walker would learn a lot from him too.

Basically the local rag say he is on the shortlist. At 36 he would obviously be a short term fix to get us out of the division to be followed by a top international when we get promoted.


1.) 30 Dec 2019 17:09:47
Not for me don't need another Murphy only just managed to get rid of him.


2.) 30 Dec 2019 17:58:49
No more OAPs: we've been down that route and it's no good.


3.) 30 Dec 2019 18:51:06
Problem is we get the press saying were after 20 players every transfer window, they aren't often right when it comes down to it.
With the scouts that are in place at the club I can't see many home players being signed.


4.) 30 Dec 2019 19:08:33
Murray is no Murphy. He has top scored in the Championships with 30 goals so knows where the net is at this level. We only need to get out of this division not play him in the Champions League.

I know most fans are hoping for Dwight Gayle but I'm wary of how much it would cost. Knowing our luck he'd cost us £10M plus wages and get injured for the rest of the season. We could be better signing a couple of players and/ or giving Tyler Walker a chance I reckon.

Hopefully now we'll sign Gayle and Che Adams and win the division but I doubt it somehow.


5.) 30 Dec 2019 22:02:52
Murphy was top scorer in 2014/ 2015 season with 27 goals for Ipswich but was awful by the time he came to us.

I don't think we will get Gayle or Adams and personally think we could get a bargain by trying to take a striker from a lower championship team. Maybe someone like Collins from Luton, Chaplin or Woodrow from Barnsley, Bonne from Charlton or even Jutkiewicz from Birmingham. All have proven they can score in this league and wouldn't cost an absolute fortune.

Still more likely we will get someone in from abroad though like most of the players signed in the summer.


6.) 02 Jan 2020 18:11:31
Bring walker back having watched him play he's come on leaps and bounds last couple of seasons he scoring goals from all over the place not just from the 6 yard box , I'd leave Gayle at 60 grand a week a bit out of our price range sooner try and get britt back


7.) 02 Jan 2020 22:21:10
We never know the actual finances so why as fans do anyone worry about it?
The owners get more in from transfers than they spend and alas waste money at times on bad loans.
But all in all there is a progression and we will get a new stand to replace the last relic.
If someone had told me we would have 43 p0ints by new year at the start of the season with a rookie manager I'd have laughed, so the best Christmas present I've had for a long time is seeing us up there being committed and competitive.


8.) 03 Jan 2020 12:10:44
One thing I do know about finance is this. You get a loan and the money is gone. You BUY a player and they have value.

It irritates me people (including Forest reporters) always saying it makes more financial sense to loan a player and develop them for another club and get no return.

Buy a player and develop them. That makes money.


9.) 03 Jan 2020 14:19:08
It depends how you look at it, with a loan you can send them back if it does not work out, when you buy, should they fail you are stuck with a player who will go down a league to get rid of provided they will drop wages, or loan with paying most of their wage. If a loan works out you can have a option to buy. There are risks with both.


 

 

01 Sep 2019 10:55:04
Gbolo Ariyibi has left the club.


1.) 01 Sep 2019 11:42:49
Just a few more to depart then before Mondays deadline or would Forest consider just paying up the rest of their contracts to get them out of the club? I would do the latter as you are going to be paying them anyhow.


2.) 01 Sep 2019 13:11:49
A better deal is to get them to accept some lower wages elsewhere and pay the difference. Cheaper than paying off the whole contract.


 

 

 

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21 Oct 2020 20:28:27
Very little in the local rag today. This is just a hunch but.

They had written several pieces on Grosicki. Some if he does get the green light to sign and some if he doesn't. Now there is no news either way they can't publish any of the stories in case they look silly.

It's time they started to pull out some good stories if you ask me. I used to buy it but no chance these days.


1.) 21 Oct 2020 21:01:12
The local rag and the local radio know not to criticise too much or the plug gets pulled just ask larry lloyd.


 

 

21 Oct 2020 11:30:26
OK, the truth about Grabban. I'm bored of the nonsense claiming he is doing well. He is not. Grabban is our main striker and starts almost every game so has far more chances than most of the other players to score. If Forest have a low chance conversion rate then in large part the buck rests with Grabban.

Last season Forest were near the bottom of the table on chance conversion rates (13.4% chances converted) . Charlton (14.5%) and Wigan (15.1%) were relegated with higher conversion rates.

So Forest were NOT kept up there by Lewis Grabban. They were kept up there by the defence and much maligned midfielders who included Yates!


1.) 21 Oct 2020 11:49:35
More stats. This season so far Forest are second bottom with 2.2% conversion. Grabban has played in all of thos games and has a conversion rate of 0%. Absolute garbage I'm afraid.


2.) 21 Oct 2020 11:53:26
So when Grabban was supposedly in form? He was still missing crucial chances before lockdown.

Wasted opportunities by 20/ 3/ 20

Big chances missed:

Patrick Bamford (Leeds) : 25
Lewis Grabban (Forest) : 17
Ollie Watkins (Brentford) : 15
Martyn Waghorn (Derby) : 14
Karlan Grant (Huddersfield) : 13

So Grabban was also the second most likely leading Champioship striker to miss a chance from "A situation where a player should reasonably be expected to score, " BEFORE lockdown. In other words if you give the ball to him on a plate then there is a good chance he will miss anyway.

This is our main striker guys.


3.) 21 Oct 2020 11:55:34
I doubt you will see this information in your local newspaper.

Maybe a few of us should start a new blog or something as proper footy journalism isn't just quoting the boss and reporting other National newspaper reports.

{Ed001's Note - you could write the articles for our football-news-views site if you don't want to take the trouble of setting up your own site?}


4.) 21 Oct 2020 12:33:34
More info on the striker topic and Forest. Here are the best players before lockdown in terms of conversion:-

Goal conversion percentage (more than 20 games played) :

Scott Hogan (Birmingham) : 43%
Chris Martin (Derby) : 43%
Jonathan Leko (West Brom/ Charlton) : 36%
Ollie Watkins (Brentford) : 32%
Lyle Taylor (Charlton) : 32%

Our very own Lyle Taylor. Who should be first choice striker?


5.) 21 Oct 2020 12:52:56
No doubt in my mind grabban needs to drop to the bench for the derby game as a kick up the backside from the manager. If he continues with Grabban it is poor management as his form is terrible, what does that tell Taylor? Sorry pal a striker that can’t hit a barn door at the moment will still get to play ahead of you! So that’s 2 strikers down in the dumps, not even glimpsed our 3rd option! Taylor has got his nice contract that he wished for will he really push himself if this is the situation I don’t know, but he deserves a run of games to see what he can do, and let grabban get his form back from coming on as sub.


6.) 21 Oct 2020 13:13:02
Manager sees Taylor in training so we have our new manager with fourteen new additions playing the same tactics as Lamouchi.
Cyclist you won't be impressed with taylor even if he's given a run in the side.
Luke freeman is a big problem at the moment as he clearly isn't fit.
Colback just dawdles about at walking pace and the minute a player goes near him passes backwards.
Stats don't give a true story as you have to get in those positions to score in the first place

Thats why martin is just a hold up striker who others feed off but doesn't get that many chances to actually score.
We missed the boat i'm afraid ivan toney was available and we should have gone all out to get him.
But we go out and sign 14 players of dubious quality instead.


7.) 21 Oct 2020 13:21:54
It took him about 8 games last season to score a goal don't know why we got rid of walker, Taylor should start at least make grabs fight for his place as he knows no matter what we don't have another replacement apart from Taylor for to long we've brought midfielders or defenders in we could do worse than try the younger players upfront.


8.) 21 Oct 2020 13:23:51
Hi Ed001,

Email me the details of how to submit an article and I'll consider throwing someting your way. If its wordpress then I'm already familiar.

{Ed033's Note - emailed you.


9.) 21 Oct 2020 15:22:42
I completely agree that Toney would have been a great signing. He plays differently to Grabban too which is better for the manager/ coach.

Don't get me started on Tyler Walker! He should have been given more of a chance at Forest. I read an interesting article discussing recruitment to replace Toney should he come to - ironically- Forest in May. They concluded that Tyler Walker was the best player to replace Toney IF THEY PLAYED 4,2,3,1 but that Keiran Sadlier was the better option for their system. They rated Walker as the better finisher.

Could you make it up? Forest's recruitment policy is nonnsense. I've said it for a while, Walker was the best finisher at Forest by a country mile and perfect for playing the loan striker with his strength and pace to get through on goal off the shoulder of the defenders.


10.) 21 Oct 2020 15:24:22
"If Peterborough are looking for a sole striker whose strength is their finishing and getting in behind, Walker is the right man for the job. However, if they want a similar player to Toney then Sadlier is the suitable option due to his all-around ability. "


11.) 21 Oct 2020 18:03:20
Problem is cyclist if you say how it is on here your a moaner.
Get what your stats are saying.
Ive never been convinced grabban likes being a sole striker.
Think he'd score far more in a partnership.
But modern day coaches frown upon two up.
Think we've already seen hiw hughton will set up and its more of the same.


12.) 21 Oct 2020 20:21:18
I've never understood the "you are a moaner" camp when people have valid criticisms.

Yes we are fans. We support the team every game. That shouldn't mean we should be happy clappers when we don't agree with how the club throws away our money on dodgy transfers through agents, lining their pockets or potentially laundering money for players we have never heard of. Funny how 90% of those players hardly play a game. Why have we never heard of them again Marinakis?

It is about opinions but some things are facts. This club throw away money buying loads of players who are at best as good as what we already have and we have for years. This season we have got in a few who can play at this level. It's a shame we lost Walker and Cash to pay for another ten.


13.) 21 Oct 2020 20:23:18
Oh, I rate your posts FF79. I especially agree with your opinions on many of our managers/ coaches.


 

 

19 Sep 2020 17:23:00
I'd start with Benalouane and Dawson at the back next week. They are both Premiere league defenders so don't start your naysaying straight away. Drop Grabban as he is clearly off form. Don't pick Lolley if he isn't fit as we have the pacy Mighten available.

This team needs freshening up. Let the players who failed last season work to win back their places. We have a decent squad so why not use it. The opposition should be trying to guess how we will set up not knowing what we will do.

The coach is not good enough.


1.) 19 Sep 2020 17:57:24
I think if he’s ever going to play Dawson again today was the day,


2.) 19 Sep 2020 18:31:20
Today cried out for Taylor, M. I. G, Freeman and Mighten going at them.


3.) 19 Sep 2020 20:28:13
Christ cyclist I know we are desperate but those two at the back together would give us some right speed at the back🐢🦛.


4.) 19 Sep 2020 21:37:39
Speed? We would have defended the corner no problems. Did we concede to pace? Nope!


5.) 19 Sep 2020 22:41:42
Like Worrall and Figs have pace 😂.


6.) 19 Sep 2020 23:12:18
Worrall also cost us the play offs last season. I like the guy but he needs to earn his place and hasn't done so for a while like a lot of the players. The shirt only means something if it is hard to keep, not if it nailed on your back!


7.) 19 Sep 2020 23:50:07
Think figs and worrel are a bit quicker than Dawson and Ben, the truth is none are good enough.


8.) 19 Sep 2020 23:59:02
We always struggle with corners, have done for years .


 

 

11 Sep 2020 13:05:59
I know you are all convinced that LamePouchy will play 4:5:1 againg but.

He does seem to be trying to sign a good left sided CB/ LB and a right sided CB/ LB (Blackett and Loic Mbe Soh) so I suspect he is planning a back three for some games. He tried it towards the end of last season once at least. So I reckon we might see 3:5:2 at times.

Samba
Blackett, Worral/ Figs, Soh
Rebeiro, Sow, Colbach, Freeman, Lolley
2 strikers.


1.) 11 Sep 2020 15:47:24
looks like the plan is DOF to sniff around europe for random freebies and bargain buys mate, don't blame Mr M for that though he, s spent big over the last couple of years. Think Lamouchis going to play the same no matter what 4.5.1 defending and 4.3.3 when we counter-attack (like liverpool lol! ) . can't see him playing 4.4.2 even with 4 strikers at the club and we don't have any real wing backs . Still think this is a good squad though so they might be top 6 if they can gel as a team. one things for sure if we can't muster more than 1 shot on target each game its au avoir Lamouchi .


2.) 11 Sep 2020 18:04:47
Shepp. when has the Greek spent big and who?


3.) 11 Sep 2020 18:30:36
£13m on a midfielder, have you forgotten him already.


4.) 11 Sep 2020 19:53:31
Shepp he's collected big mate
Brereton 7mill
Lansbury 3mill
Osborn 3mill
Appiah 7mill
Cash 12 mill+
With more to follow pal.
Its the 30k aweek on the loon and 25k on a sicknote that are costing the club along with others like bong and heffle.


5.) 11 Sep 2020 20:49:09
You mean that Carvalho player who every manager fails to put in their squad?
You have to admit Mendes had the Big Greeks pants down with that signing to add to the other poor signings ie hefele bong direakby mir muric da costa! 😁.


 

 

06 Aug 2020 11:17:52
I'm not sure what you guys think but let's say we can't afford a new quality creative player because we either spend all the Cash money on a striker and winger or can't shift Carvalho for a good deal.

Who thinks the boss should try to get Zach Clough some game time. Talk to him. See whether he can start the new season with a chance of playing?


1.) 06 Aug 2020 11:36:27
Carvalho is on the Retained List, who would bid for him? The only people likely are Olympiacos I think. Maybe that's why SL is over there to help sort that out.


2.) 06 Aug 2020 11:52:48
RC, I’ve just posted something similar, I’m thinking it didn’t send as it’s not on here .

Clough given game time would have been just as productive as carvalho in our style of play yet we wasted all that money on him and the money a redundant Clough has cost us.

No doubt the club has made some progress but this particularly scenario is as a bad an example of how the club as managed that you could ever wish to find .

It’s a good thing that Lamouchi looks safe but odd when you look at the bizarre tactics, inept substitutions and poor mentality in the players . Many have walked for less and it makes things seem even stranger to me.


3.) 06 Aug 2020 14:15:53
Clough is useless. Carvahol is much better but neither suit the managers style. There’s no point sacking the manager when the midfield we have is not good enough. Employ a decent central 3 with Lamouchis tactics and we will be well up there.


4.) 06 Aug 2020 18:00:51
to be honest clough didn't do much when he went out on loan so i reckon his confidence is shot. no harm in trying him for a few games i suppose.


5.) 06 Aug 2020 18:34:37
Not just confidence he is also a biscuit. Constantly injured. Add all that together and being overrated in the first place means he’s no good to us.


6.) 06 Aug 2020 19:15:20
Carvalho is no better and has had chance after chance . 3 managers can’t be wrong although the manager everyone wanting sacking seemed to be on the road to getting the best from him .
I think the point is, why sign him? He’s done notating she all for us and yes Clough is garbage as well but we may as well have wasted just that money . My prediction is carvalho won’t have a much of a career either, we’ve been hoodwinked and it was obvious to the majority very early on. It shows how desperate we’ve become. When his name was shouted incessantly despite the inept performances.


7.) 06 Aug 2020 19:41:24
2star what i found weird with carvallaho is his first touch. Crap for a supposed playmaker and his second touch was a tackle. Just not natural enough for me and £13mil.


8.) 06 Aug 2020 20:11:45
I guarantee if we sell Carvs he will have a good career wherever he ends up. The last couple of managers we had do not play to his strength. Time to cut our losses and bring in the players that suit our style.


9.) 06 Aug 2020 20:54:53
Carvallho no better than clough, you can't ‘ guarantee ‘ anything, he might enjoy a decent career, but not at this level, in this country, too lightweight like clough, and gives the ball away too often, putting his own team on the back foot, he’s been here two seasons now, what will it take to make some on here realise he’s not good or robust enough,


10.) 06 Aug 2020 22:18:35
Our whole team gives the ball aay too easily stevie.
Alot of those late equalisers were down to giving the ball away.


11.) 06 Aug 2020 22:59:28
Stevie if I can’t guarantee he’s good you can’t guarantee he’s bad. He might not make it here but he will be one of those players who light it up at another club when he leaves. Carvs is Much better than Clough.


12.) 07 Aug 2020 00:45:07
Redtree I can guarantee what I’ve seen over the last 2seasons, a man that most of the time in a match looks like a schoolboy in a mans game, plays a good ball about every 3games and people like you acclaim him as a quality player, the 1st excuse was he was too good for the players around him, now it’s, the managers system doesn’t suit him, the last 2 managers who see him everyday haven’t given him a look in, so maybe they’re wrong, and you’re right, but I doubt it,


13.) 07 Aug 2020 00:59:33
Jason Lee was better than carvahllo ridiculous buy I just hope we can get a tenner back for the crap.


14.) 07 Aug 2020 18:46:15
Stevie maybe you need your eyes testing then. Both of those ‘excuses’ are true. Just because a manager doesn’t pick a player doesn’t mean they’re crap. It’s clear Lamouchi doesn’t play a formation where Carvs can fit in,


15.) 07 Aug 2020 22:58:16
I agree redtree lots of players look bad under certain coaches yet thrive under others.
Kevin Campbell was absolutely garbage for three seasons until the donk came along and then he continued to play well at Everton.
Birtles cudn't buy a goal at man utd but was a perfect fit for us.
Sanchez great for arsenal but garbage at United.
The list is endless but its about having a balanced squad with players enjoying their football.


16.) 07 Aug 2020 23:01:27
Ps that's why i have the upmost respect for Ronaldo he's good whoever he plays for and Ibrahimovic.
They performe week in and out.


17.) 08 Aug 2020 09:09:13
Those kind of players you mention 79 are just pure class. Ronaldo should probably go down as the best ever or be at least well up there on all time greats. Same goes to messi.


 

 

 

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19 Oct 2020 16:00:21
A loan player doesn't haggle over money. His main club pay his wages. The negotiation was between Forest and his club if it is a loan. If permanent then the player must have already agreed terms and the club hadn't agreed a fee.

It sounds like Forest met the asking price right at the last minute. If that is true then it is incompetence or something akin to that incident over a players eyesight (i. e. the club didn't really want to pay but were trying to appease the boss) .


 

 

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18 Oct 2020 20:06:49
It was his club holding out for money I think.


 

 

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17 Oct 2020 20:04:50
Or they were TRYING TO PRETEND TO GET THE PLAYER TO KEEP THE MANAGER HAPPY BUT "ACCIDENTALLY" COKED UP THE PAPERWORK.


 

 

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13 Oct 2020 13:27:00
We have already got a big strong striker haven't we?


 

 

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12 Oct 2020 14:14:46
It looks like it will be down to what proportion of his wages we are prepared to pay.


 

 

 

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22 Oct 2020 00:15:49
Dunno, what is Guerrerro like. Has anyone seen him play. Didn't he score a couple against us in a friendly?


 

 

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21 Oct 2020 20:23:18
Oh, I rate your posts FF79. I especially agree with your opinions on many of our managers/ coaches.


 

 

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21 Oct 2020 20:21:18
I've never understood the "you are a moaner" camp when people have valid criticisms.

Yes we are fans. We support the team every game. That shouldn't mean we should be happy clappers when we don't agree with how the club throws away our money on dodgy transfers through agents, lining their pockets or potentially laundering money for players we have never heard of. Funny how 90% of those players hardly play a game. Why have we never heard of them again Marinakis?

It is about opinions but some things are facts. This club throw away money buying loads of players who are at best as good as what we already have and we have for years. This season we have got in a few who can play at this level. It's a shame we lost Walker and Cash to pay for another ten.


 

 

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21 Oct 2020 15:24:22
"If Peterborough are looking for a sole striker whose strength is their finishing and getting in behind, Walker is the right man for the job. However, if they want a similar player to Toney then Sadlier is the suitable option due to his all-around ability. "


 

 

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21 Oct 2020 15:22:42
I completely agree that Toney would have been a great signing. He plays differently to Grabban too which is better for the manager/ coach.

Don't get me started on Tyler Walker! He should have been given more of a chance at Forest. I read an interesting article discussing recruitment to replace Toney should he come to - ironically- Forest in May. They concluded that Tyler Walker was the best player to replace Toney IF THEY PLAYED 4,2,3,1 but that Keiran Sadlier was the better option for their system. They rated Walker as the better finisher.

Could you make it up? Forest's recruitment policy is nonnsense. I've said it for a while, Walker was the best finisher at Forest by a country mile and perfect for playing the loan striker with his strength and pace to get through on goal off the shoulder of the defenders.