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29 Dec 2018 21:41:30
For all the ak supporters please can you answer why other managers who have been in there positions the same amount of time as ak or less are doing so well and they have bought in a load of new players ect as well ie Leeds derby and so on, I have never managed a football team so maybe someone can enlighten me, I was always under the impression managers did homework on oppositions put together a game plan on the opposition's strengths and weaknesses with his assistants if this is the case why are we playing 4,2,3,1 week in week out regardless of the formation and players we are up against seems so one dimensional, even if it was 2 formations one with the ball one without just some variation to keep opposition guessing I just think his tactics have been worked out step up the pitch stop us passing 100% guarantee will stop us winning.

Red James

1.) 30 Dec 2018 03:43:17
think he's been found out over a lot of things.

2.) 30 Dec 2018 11:27:16
Farke came 14th with Norwich last season and look how they are doing now. We just need a bit of stability, sacking karanka will only disrupt the squad. Give him at least a season. He's won the champions league 3 times as a player and has got a team promoted from this league. With all due respect he knows way more about football than you ever will.

3.) 30 Dec 2018 11:53:46
And where did we finish under karanka last season then after he bought all those players in January too people seem to think this is his first season he has had 2 sets of players with the same win ratio and same carp tactics ? Being a good footballer doesn't make you a good manager so don't care what he has won he was a very good defender is that helping our defence . no, first all his supporters said don't judge till after 12 games then don't judge till Xmas now it's a whole season, I know enough about football too see that 4,2,3,1 isn't working at home yet he can't seem to work it out, pants has been shocking in most games still picked, JC should not be in team week in week out yet he is take those glasses off and see what's wrong in front of your eyes, so you agree with his same plan no matter what were up against

4.) 30 Dec 2018 19:31:06
This has been happening at forest for years though, we under perform and we get a new manager in and we sign new players and we get excited then 8 months down the line it starts all over again and everyones out for blood. Who is better suited to the job? I only mention his playing achievement because He's been at the top of his game and you should show him some respect, not many people in the world can say they've won three champions leagues, as a player I would want to learn from him. I think he gave Fox a lot of confidence. And we have got better at defending imo, the last few months havnt been the best but he's given me more hope than any of the other managers we've had. He arrived at the start of January with an awful squad, we now have depth and experience. Do you really think he is trying to sabotage the team, he wants them to play well just as much as you do. Confidence is massive in this game and having loads of fans moan for a poor dip in form isn't going to help anyone. Yes in a year's time if we are playing the same I will be on your side. I'm young, I've only supported forest since they've been a mid table championship side (Look how many players have moved on as soon as there is interest, we are not the most attractive team in the league) and maybe you've got to get your head out the clouds and accept that that's what we are. Fawaz did not help this club at all and it'll take time for those scars to heal. Patience mate.

5.) 30 Dec 2018 20:00:43
Dertwedge, You can say what you like about our manager but the fact of the matter is managers in most cases get to keep, or lose their job based on results, and league position, especially after spending more money than the club has spent for many a year.

2, i repeat 2 transfer windows and a lot of money later not only are we only 2 points better off this season compared to last season, but we have not won for a while.

The club set a standard with Warburton when they sacked him when we were 9 points away from the play offs, we are 6 points away at the moment.

Should we lose against Leeds, and Derby win then BOOM, the manager will be gone.

6.) 30 Dec 2018 21:42:52
Utter garbage sorry, not once have I disrespected him yes I've questioned his ability as a manager but not as a player but that has no bearing on managerial ability, a dip in form?

Where was the high the majority of games have been unconvincing wins or scraped draws with about 3 games where I've thought wow they were good the team was riding there luck for a while now the luck has run out and the bare bones are exposed please explain to me the progress then 2 points better off than last season still can't defend set pieces still can't score from, still can't break down teams sitting deep or defending well, still the same keeper problem, summer arrivals bar grabban and yacob have been uninspiring I just fail too see a year later a years progress yes rome wasn't built in a day but a more difference is needed simple.



03 Dec 2018 23:37:55
Is all this criticism Worrall gets justified? he was in an awful team zero protection from midfield, mancienne as a partner and silent Smith behind him what chance did the young lad stand I think he would thrive in this side.

Red James

1.) 04 Dec 2018 08:20:11
He's below par,just like Brereton and Walker. A liability.

2.) 04 Dec 2018 08:40:50
And what can you use to make that opinion he hasn't had a chance in good side any defender would of looked bad in that defence is my point one man can't make a defence

3.) 04 Dec 2018 09:57:58
A defender is there to defend the goal, what side he's in is totally irrelevant. Yes in a poorer side he may have to do more defending, but it's still defending and Worrall is just an old school, head it and hit it. He's a liability at the back, his anticipation is poor, always seems 1 second or 2 behind the game. Just like pants, if he's bought back, he will cost us goals and maybe promotion.

4.) 04 Dec 2018 10:02:15
If anything, a defender in a poor team has the chance to shine, be the one to step up and show class, Worrall never did that.

5.) 04 Dec 2018 10:26:52

Absolute rubbish!!!

Poor JW had a useless CH partner and two poor fullbacks and a keeper who didnโ€™t communicate. On top of that he had two useless central midfielders.

What chance did the lad have??!!!!!

Be real. . He needed to come into a good side, a bit like Dawson did when he started alongside Des Walker with Crossley behind him.

6.) 04 Dec 2018 11:12:30
Fox looked bad for three seasons trying to play centre back,all of a sudden a world beaterthis season?๐Ÿค”
The defence never had the likes of colback Watson geddy or Jacob in front of them.
Worrall will be class and a future captain.
Only as good as the players around you,it's a team game not about individuals

7.) 04 Dec 2018 11:26:33
Ahh echoes of how good Brereton once was in some peoples eyes and how much of a travesty it was that we sold him. 7m doesn't look so bad now though does it. Worrall is no different, he's never shown anything to suggest he's ever going to be any other than a mediocre championship defender. People just have a blinkered vision on home grown players.

8.) 04 Dec 2018 12:24:07
Ok gazza what should we do with appiah?
Sell him quick,because according to some,if they are home grown then they are only ever going to be average at best?
England think different of Worrall and he didn't do too badly.
Too early to write off brereton yet,don't think he made a good career move there.

9.) 04 Dec 2018 13:35:53
I think GazzaRed must've found Joe Worrall in bed with Mrs GazzaRed.


10.) 04 Dec 2018 13:39:04
Surely this is an opportunity for an under 23 player to be on the bench. Good experience. Don't forget, Colback can play at left back as well.

11.) 04 Dec 2018 14:09:41
Worrall is ok and in my opinion is a very good player. Working with Hefele and Robinson beside him to keep him in tune with what he needs to do will be a good prospect. Some of you are forgetting he was made England U21 Captain. You don't get that recognition unless you are a good player. As long as the price was low buying back Olly Burke is a no-brainer; he can terrify defences.

12.) 04 Dec 2018 14:25:26
Personally Worrall would have learned more staying here and learning in training from Dawson,he'd have had a chance to get the team at some point.

13.) 04 Dec 2018 16:15:32
FF799, I'd say it all depends how much first team action he gets at Rangers. If he plays but was 5th choice here then maybe not. I do like the idea of Dawson mentoring him, either second half of this season or next season in the Prem.

Agree with the sentiment above. He hasn't just Captained England under 21s. He has captained an England under 21 trophy winning team hasn't he? Fantastic prospect and red through and through. His detractors are full of bovine excreta.

14.) 04 Dec 2018 16:25:10
When Dawson's not injured, of course.

15.) 04 Dec 2018 16:28:31
Sorry Gazza can't disagree more defence is a unit if your partner is out of position your passed round easily if your left and right back are beaten time and again you can't defend cross after cross find your comment amazing why don't we just play one at the back then and have more attacking players if that's the case

16.) 04 Dec 2018 16:47:42
Just to be clear, Fox played as a left back but always had decent games when asked to cover at CB. Worral would not have got a look in if he stayed here this year, best thing to loan him out.

I remember a young John Terry coming to us for a season, it will do Worral a world of good.

17.) 04 Dec 2018 19:51:38
Appiah actually has some quality. When Worralls back in the team and he's being a calamity and you're all slating him,I'll be the one saying I told you so

18.) 04 Dec 2018 20:31:48
We can all be wrong though gazza,look at Darikwa,totally different player this season,magnificent on Saturday,great shot for the first and great delivery for the last,but his defending has improved dramatically as well.
It's not always how good you are,but about the confidence the team has and how they perform as a unit.
Appiah obviously is a talent,he plays for England and performs on that stage,so did Worrall and was a winner in the process,so they can see the talent,maybe that should be taken on board???

19.) 05 Dec 2018 06:59:06
Michael mancienne played for England.

20.) 05 Dec 2018 18:12:28
Give it up, GazzaRed. You're writing off a 21yo centre-half who has shown promise and it's foolish.

Even if he does turn out to be an average Championship defender, I'd rather have him here as 3rd or 4th choice than some overpaid foreign mercenary.

Lascelles is an excellent comparison. Showed good promise but never really excelled in the Forest first team on a consistent basis and no one moaned too much when he moved on to Newcastle. In his first season at Newcastle he wasn't regular and they were relegated. A few years on, he's back in the Prem and one of the first names on the turn sheet. Patience is required, especially with young defenders. Even more so if they're one of your own.

21.) 05 Dec 2018 20:42:43
Good post SSWE.

22.) 05 Dec 2018 21:23:58
Agree,not sure what the turn sheet is though??or do I??
I'm just glad the lads ok and the doctors have got him "regular" now,must have taken a load off?๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ

23.) 06 Dec 2018 15:27:48
Sorry, should've read 'team sheet'!

24.) 07 Dec 2018 23:56:47
Worrall is as good as Lascelles in my opinion. Better than Wes Morgan was at 21! Digest that fact for a moment.

Morgan has captained a champions league team and Lascelles a Premier league one and neiother were better than Worrall at 21



03 Nov 2018 08:56:55
I see TM wants to use Bereton as a winger lol and the fans are calling the deal a waste of money, some are asking if they can pull out of the deal.

Red James

1.) 03 Nov 2018 18:33:42
Ha ha what a shocker. No thanks, we donโ€™t want him back.



03 Aug 2018 22:06:55
I think we should sign Burke Antonio and Britt ๐Ÿ˜‚.

Red James

1.) 03 Aug 2018 22:24:26
Have you just win the Euro millions?
Or is a Turkish holiday really that cheap?๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ

2.) 03 Aug 2018 22:57:22
To be fair red James the three Portuguese lads look the real deal and they say never look back?

3.) 03 Aug 2018 23:30:29
You might be joking but I'd suggest Burke is available at the right price.

4.) 03 Aug 2018 23:39:33
Could pay in lira would help a lot lol

5.) 03 Aug 2018 23:40:45
But yes they do I was at the Bournemouth game and we looked the prem side and them championship just concerned with Murphy getting the number 9 shirt

6.) 04 Aug 2018 08:10:22
Murphy needs the number 9 bus out of here.

7.) 04 Aug 2018 17:38:33
@Red always: WRONG!

8.) 04 Aug 2018 21:36:04
Murphy has a role to play or AK wouldn't play him. Most fans would welcome the Murphy we saw at the start of last season. Injury and personal issues robbed us of that player. His age and contract will attract unfair criticism, his only escape is to score goals. So well done Murphy, well done AK keep doing what you're well paid to do.๐Ÿ‘

9.) 05 Aug 2018 14:22:57

He didn't give himself the contract. We are paying him what we are paying him but that and his personal probs last season don't make him a bad player. I just reckon people have been unfair with him and should give him a break.



27 Jun 2018 12:57:26
Formal offer has made to Daniel Podence.

Red James

1.) 27 Jun 2018 13:09:42
Portuguese Messi

2.) 27 Jun 2018 13:12:02
Who ?. Get Marriott in and get in done and offload Grant if need be

3.) 27 Jun 2018 13:37:30
Marriott is way overpriced just like bambi.
Let some other club take the risk.

4.) 27 Jun 2018 13:44:19
Getting a feeling that Marriott isn't what AK is looking for,I think a proven goalscorer at this level,fingers crossed for grabben

5.) 27 Jun 2018 14:19:25
Soudani medical Friday.
Grabbon hopefully but we defo need another central midfielder. We got Watson bridgcutt.
Geddy not good enough osbourne cash can do a job there but little light weight.
Clayton needs signing. No more overseas players
Got enough. we need championship/prem experience

6.) 27 Jun 2018 14:26:02
Anyone heard anything on Robles?

7.) 27 Jun 2018 14:36:47
Mo Besic please

8.) 27 Jun 2018 15:49:03
Haven't we reached capacity in midfield yet?

9.) 27 Jun 2018 17:20:27
Capacity? Nonsense. Yes we need to sell/loan players. But what do you want the management to do if a better player than we have becomes availably. Bring him in and remove a weaker player or keep the weaker squad?

That is how you strengthen. You bring in better players than you have. Only an idiot would keep what they have and turn down better players.

10.) 27 Jun 2018 17:31:33
Like your post red cyclist.
Very true indeed.

11.) 27 Jun 2018 18:14:41
Roy our now saying Soudani to sign for calgiari

12.) 27 Jun 2018 18:50:04
RedCyclist I am fully aware of the philosophy behind the strenghtening of an existing squad and the commerce that is necessary to facilitate such an endevour, but thanks for reminding me.

13.) 28 Jun 2018 06:21:54
Sgetty May I also remind you that this a rumours page not the banter page.
Sarcastic or condescending posts will be treated with an appropriate manner as such that your post maybe forwarded to the Derby County site for thorough investigation into why you have posted such a post regarding commerce, philosophical strengthening of a football team.
Fwank and Crush candy mel will give you the opportunity to explain your theory to the board to put your example of commerce and strengthening into the new Derby. County Model also known FFP.
You have been warned! ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

14.) 28 Jun 2018 08:16:02
"RedCyclist I am fully aware of the philosophy behind the strenghtening of an existing squad"

So you know I'm right then. Congratulations on actually admitting the obvious truth - that the foremoaners are wrong about bringing in better midfielders is the wrong thing to do!

It's like trying t suck blood from a stone getting people to admit they are wrong on here. :P

15.) 28 Jun 2018 11:42:41
Can't say I've tried to suck blood from anything nevermind a stone?
Care to elaborate red ๐Ÿšด ๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜‚?

16.) 28 Jun 2018 12:16:57
My blood is red. That's all you need to know. :)




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05 Oct 2019 14:22:00
Not jc and ts together again too lightweight in midfield ๐Ÿ™.

Red James

1.) 05 Oct 2019 14:33:03
Playing Brentford at the own game James. Could be another great move by SL.

2.) 05 Oct 2019 14:59:15
Manager has earned our trust.

3.) 05 Oct 2019 15:56:54
Just don't like a number 10 on the wing who has zero pace with ameobi and adomah on the bench just don't get this one I must admit.



01 Sep 2019 20:41:12
Is marniakis upto dodgy dealings again 8 mill for appiah is crazy, wonder if he has given them the 8 mill in a back hander to buy him off us ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚.

Red James

1.) 01 Sep 2019 21:07:25

2.) 01 Sep 2019 21:07:28
If itโ€™s over in Greece nothing will ever be proven so as long as itโ€™s in our favour happy days ๐Ÿคท๐Ÿปโ€โ™‚๏ธ.

3.) 01 Sep 2019 21:32:23
Let's hope he gives someone 150 mill to buy murphy off us next lol.

4.) 01 Sep 2019 21:53:22
The Greeks are obviously savvy when it comes to football finance, for all their outlay they have have sold
Britt 15mill
Brereton 7 mill
Appiah now for 8 mill
Wasted alit of that on wages and panic signings at times but at least it's a balanced way of conducting buisness with ffp always a problem.

5.) 01 Sep 2019 22:32:11
Britt was sold by fawas.

6.) 01 Sep 2019 22:24:00
I don't care I'm off to my log cabin hot tub and fishing tomorrow can't bloody wait think 8 million for appiah is a great deal now 8 for silva and 5 for carvalho and I will be a happy chappy anyway I have free WiFi in Lodge so I will be watching ๐Ÿ˜œ๐Ÿ˜.

7.) 01 Sep 2019 23:10:22
No he wasnt it was our first pre season under marinakis.

8.) 01 Sep 2019 23:15:02
Appiah loan with a view to buy, surely? Liga 2 side paying ยฃ8m? The world's gone mad. ๐Ÿ˜.

9.) 02 Sep 2019 08:51:13
It has scouse look at us and carvalho ๐Ÿ™„.

10.) 02 Sep 2019 10:08:46
Good answer skegs.

11.) 02 Sep 2019 12:23:29
Carvalho the guy who has about an hour of football under his belt but already has a goal and an assist.

12.) 02 Sep 2019 14:01:57
Take no notice perks they must be winding you up as everyone can see Carvelho is the best player we have got.

13.) 02 Sep 2019 14:41:01
Lolley is the man other teams are more scared of.

14.) 02 Sep 2019 15:28:54
Carvs helps Lolley scare the other teams. Itโ€™s not a coincidence heโ€™s struggled without him in the team.

15.) 02 Sep 2019 19:06:48
Redtree lolley didnโ€™t struggle against brum.

16.) 02 Sep 2019 19:31:11
The more talented players we have on the pitch, the beter. ๐Ÿ‘.



01 Sep 2019 16:27:51
8 mill for appiah is a good price just a shame as he showed a lot of promise looks like were trying to balance the books to me.

Red James

1.) 01 Sep 2019 17:17:51
Cannot understand this deal regarding Appiah. Shades of Burke and look what happened to him. The only thing I can think of is that they need to balance the books.

2.) 01 Sep 2019 17:28:16
Cause we need to balance the books with the huge squad we have to pay ,thousands payed every week to players who never kick a ball ,crazy !

3.) 01 Sep 2019 17:39:44
Seems a good price, just interested what other people would have valued him at?

I think Burke was further ahead in his development and was contributing regularly, very sad how its worked out for him but he's set for life financially.

4.) 01 Sep 2019 17:54:34
I think itโ€™s a good idea Ginger. I donโ€™t think he will get a look in and someone has offered a lot of money for someone whoโ€™s not even making the bench. If you were the club what would you do?

We have to trust the manager and if he thought Appiah was better than what we have I think heโ€™d be playing. Secondly the club have got it spot on lately in who theyโ€™ve sold and who theyโ€™ve kept. 23 million for brereton and burke and both are struggling to make an impact, based on that alone Iโ€™ll opt for faith in this decision .

5.) 01 Sep 2019 18:34:21
Strange a second division club from Spain paying 8 million.

6.) 01 Sep 2019 19:13:45
Ginger kid I would snap anyones hand off at 8 million never really kicked a ball for us and if I'm honest looked over awed when playing the few games at senior level.
Good luck to the lad and it might come back to bite us but a lot of money for potential.

7.) 01 Sep 2019 19:33:07
If anyone is really paying 8 million for someone like him I am at a loss- this game has gone mad and is so far from the real world. Scared for the future of the game to be honest ๐Ÿคท๐Ÿปโ€โ™‚๏ธ.

8.) 01 Sep 2019 20:10:05
Itโ€™s quite a lot of money . It makes Brereton look like a bargain and that seemed like a ludicrous price.

9.) 01 Sep 2019 20:41:57
Didn't, some English second tier team pay 13m for some Portuguese novice not to long ago .

10.) 01 Sep 2019 21:00:08
Game went a long time ago, the rich clubs will only get richer an that will force smaller clubs to over spend to compete aka Bury/ Bolton, look at all the clubs that had to sell the grounds to keep within ffp.

11.) 01 Sep 2019 21:01:41
Apparently a rich Arab has taken over that Spanish club. I donโ€™t agree that this deal is anything like Burke. He was a first team key player who had the world at his feet when we sold him. Appiah hasnโ€™t even broken into our second team. Weird because a lot of people seem to rate him.

12.) 01 Sep 2019 21:04:42
Yes Carlo but they still havenโ€™t had a return from it and they might not? As I said itโ€™s crazy.

13.) 01 Sep 2019 21:06:14
You mean the one that set the goal up yesterday? ๐Ÿค”๐Ÿค”.

14.) 02 Sep 2019 09:10:41
I would sell all day long for that money if it's true, who wouldn't! Think there is way too much in front of him to get much more than a sniff this season.

I haven't seen anything on it yet.



21 Aug 2019 22:37:56
Loving sl post match interview "we played like sh! t" lol at least he honest.

Red James



21 Aug 2019 21:45:49
Game changed when bostock and sow finally came, sow should be one of the first names on the team sheet lesson learnt I hope sl.

Red James

1.) 21 Aug 2019 21:50:49
Sow didnโ€™t come on did he? Thought it was Bostock, Adomah an Mir?

2.) 21 Aug 2019 22:20:51
The game changed when started to keep the ball better and put Charlton under a bit of pressure. Typical Forest away performance really though. We start lack a bunch of players that have never met before, concede the inevitable goal and THEN we start to play. Happy with a point but start like that on Saturday and the game could be out of site by half time.

3.) 21 Aug 2019 22:29:58
Bostock looked good. Must start ahead of Watson.

4.) 21 Aug 2019 22:32:38
Sorry bostock and adomah I was just wishing sow was playing lol.

5.) 21 Aug 2019 23:46:22
Yea ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป I actually thought we started the turn around just before half time when Grabban should of hit it with his left foot, I weighed in on grabs after the 1st 2 games but tonight he was very good apart from scoring lol thought silva kept giving the ball away as well an can Watson actually pass a ball forward haha, they say draw your away games win your homes but will be the toughest game of the year on Saturday.




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04 Oct 2019 07:43:47
If were serious about promotion I wouldn't let him go for any amount, surprised you would let him go.

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21 Sep 2019 18:15:08
Are you sure you meant comprehensive not hanging on lol.

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23 Aug 2019 05:52:23
We have only played 3 games lol.

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10 Aug 2019 14:28:20
Yes and what did they spend on those players you can't even compare it lol.

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10 Aug 2019 13:34:22
Dan what do you expect from these players with all the constant changes it's the second game of the season away at a Leeds side who have been together a lot longer and its 0-0 I will take that all day long at 90 minutes not many teams will go there this season and create much.

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05 Oct 2019 20:26:00
League position is the only stat that bothers me can play this way all season of we finish 1st lol.

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05 Oct 2019 15:56:54
Just don't like a number 10 on the wing who has zero pace with ameobi and adomah on the bench just don't get this one I must admit.

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25 Sep 2019 19:43:52
Spot on aps we all wish for promotion but the harsh reality is were prob no where ready as even prem money wouldn't be enough to build a squad who can survive very happy to be proven wrong though.

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25 Sep 2019 17:50:54
I think he knew it was disjointed but didn't care, the squad is good enough for championship but already knew not for the prem or we would be top already.

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14 Sep 2019 22:18:37
We can't afford gayle he must be round the 20 mill mark so unless our owner buys our big screens TVs for 20 mill and loans them back too us no chance lol.

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