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02 Feb 2018 16:45:05
Ben watson expected to sign after the Fulhsm gsme. Positve talks held at the academy. Will be great for us.

rutland red1

1.) 02 Feb 2018 16:53:30
Him and Coleback would be a couple of firebrands in midfield, along with Bridcutt I can see our work-rate going up.I don't know how Bouchalakis is going to fit in. There will be a lot of question-marks over our present players by the summer.

2.) 02 Feb 2018 17:34:50
I can't see where osborn and dowell are going to fit in

3.) 02 Feb 2018 18:30:22
Really Dowell is one of the best players we have

4.) 02 Feb 2018 21:03:36
Dowell is a luxury,which is fine when your playing well and winning.
His problem is he goes missing in games,sometimes for 70 mins then might pull a thunderbolt out of the blue.
Other than a big deflected goal against wolves,he has not played well for a while.
Needs to put a full shift in,but then you have to take into account he's been in a side that has a unbalanced midfield with four being left footed on everymatchday.
Should be more balanced now,but i'd leave him out tomorrow in favour of ged colback osborn cash and tomlin.
Stronger players against a very good side in great form.

5.) 02 Feb 2018 21:07:06
He is very talented i will give him that. he's a luxury player if the teams playing well he does well other than that he's very lazy

6.) 03 Feb 2018 08:12:45
Your right ff. we now have pit ponies as well as show ponies.

7.) 03 Feb 2018 11:42:41
New guys aside as I don't know about them, Dowell is the only one who can hit a decent free kick.

8.) 03 Feb 2018 13:24:04
As well as a dodgy corner 🙄

9.) 03 Feb 2018 21:22:20
Like i said should have left Dowell out,snowboater who plays for himself,not the team.

10.) 04 Feb 2018 11:58:13
Dowell needs to be dropped for a few games.

11.) 04 Feb 2018 14:57:29
Lol what's a snowboater it sounds good craic 😂



27 Jan 2018 22:31:22
At least now their can be no argument. Karanka has given him a chsnce and he has taken it. I told you all Velios is not crap well done karanka.

rutland red1

1.) 28 Jan 2018 06:39:53
Just seen the goal, great finish. Playing brereton ahead of velios has cost us .

2.) 28 Jan 2018 09:48:49
Two bad defensive errors cost us.
I said it was game over at half time.

3.) 28 Jan 2018 14:28:21
Ff79 you seemed happy with the line up yesterday. You then thriugh what you saw changed your tone. Was it really that bad???

4.) 28 Jan 2018 16:16:41
Rutland. Nearly everyone thought it was a positive line up. We even convinced ourselves that Carayol might be part of a master plan. We sat or stood mainly and watched absolute garbage.

5.) 28 Jan 2018 16:51:12
Ff79 i do not get csryol. He always looks liks he is limping either thst or he has one leg shorter than the other. For sure Karanka will have his eyes open now. Its so disrespectful to 4000 travelling fans for that to ever happen again.

6.) 28 Jan 2018 21:03:34

Karanka will have Carayol out the door as he had his eyes opened at Boro with him. He has no work ethic or courage and is good for about 20 mins a game on a good day!

He'd be better off in the French league where he will get more space.

7.) 28 Jan 2018 22:22:19
Rutland I was happy with the line up,the problem is they didn't turn up yet again.
They win a game against the top side in the league and follow it up with a shocker,been doing it for too long now,It's inexcusable big clearout required as they don't have the mental strength to succed

8.) 29 Jan 2018 05:15:31
Mental strength that's a good point. These next 4 days are going to be interesting. What does karanka do??? Stick or twist????

9.) 29 Jan 2018 08:36:31
On that performance twist.
Boukalkis fox Carayol definite non starters for me and and Dowell and Brereton dropping to the bench.



21 Jan 2018 13:46:46
Karanka has said we will finish the window with a stronger squad than we have now. That was after the game yesterday so he must have soms agreements in place!

rutland red1

1.) 21 Jan 2018 14:17:07
Great News, and in the Red door walks.?

2.) 21 Jan 2018 14:21:41
Could also mean Worrall and Brereton are going nowhere as well as

3.) 21 Jan 2018 14:58:20
All we need to do to have a stronger squad at the end of the window is sell Mills?

4.) 21 Jan 2018 15:21:06
Ha ha good one

5.) 21 Jan 2018 16:23:43
Finishing the window stronger could just mean the players he has will improve in their right positions, not necessarily any more additions to the squad. Unless of course McKay or someone else leaves. Personally I think we have a good talented squad who can keep us up, even though there still will be ups and downs in terms of results. Let's work with what we've got and not expect some sort of single saviour to come in and put everything right all of a sudden.

6.) 21 Jan 2018 16:33:52
He may also mean that they will be mentally stronger following this and the Arsenal results and their new found team ethic.
That or we have some decent players coming in. maybe he is close to someone arriving.
Clayton please!!

7.) 21 Jan 2018 16:43:43
I think he will add two this window. One central defender and one strong chsracter in midfield. We have no cover for worral or bridcutt. Personally manciennd is no captain as he never ever speaks on the pitch so maybe expect a vociferous addition.

8.) 21 Jan 2018 18:02:07
Bsred, I think Karanka would like a general on the pitch. A strong character to lift the players if we are flagging, to enforce AK's directions. Clough had McGovern, AK trusts a player at Boro, I hope he gets his man.

9.) 21 Jan 2018 18:35:03
Billy (like him or hate him) sought out & got McKenna. We've had no-one since other than CC but always injured.

10.) 21 Jan 2018 19:02:09
Mancienne might not be a captain but we are a much better team when he’s in the back 4.

11.) 21 Jan 2018 19:32:59
Never saw McGovern give the team a lift ,like Mance just got on with his job and led by example.
Others in a that side were much much more vocal than McGovern ,you don,t have to bawl and shout to be skipper you need the others respect.

12.) 21 Jan 2018 20:14:55
Captains work in different ways, a crunching tackle to set the tone of a game, encouraging defensive shape, scoring a whopper. You could be the best player but a rubbish captain, I like a talker who praises, chastises, rollocks and encourages, a conductor on the pitch. We don't have that but I believe we would be that stronger side, if we could sign such a player.

13.) 21 Jan 2018 21:17:23
Carlo mancienne struggles with concentration. His communication with colleagues is ziltch. He is not a bad player but then he is not a great player. Captain material nope.

14.) 21 Jan 2018 22:32:33
Not a massive Fox fan but he was talking up the youngsters all game yesterday, good stuff from him.

15.) 21 Jan 2018 22:46:55
There's no great players at mid table championship clubs.

16.) 22 Jan 2018 00:05:58
You can have great players in any league and at any standard, the problem is keeping hold of them and trying to make sure the clubs get something out of them ie . Promotion or cash in the bank.

17.) 22 Jan 2018 00:58:28
Have said for a while that it is ridiculous that the only player I see every game shouting and talking to everyone all the time is young Joe Worrall!
None of our players who have worn the armband lately are overly vocal, Manchienne, Lichij or Mills. No matter what position a leader is something we need.

18.) 22 Jan 2018 13:09:17
All that means is mills will be sold 👍

19.) 22 Jan 2018 14:13:07
Who is going to buy Mills and pay 10 g a week ,perhaps Dougiie will take him to CP ?



19 Jan 2018 07:02:24
Karanka has denied bidding for clayton saying he is concentrating on " my own players "
That would indicate no signings this window. Brave man?

rutland red1

1.) 19 Jan 2018 08:51:57
lets wait and see shall we.

2.) 19 Jan 2018 10:26:43
Suttonpete: the worst thing would be to panic buy players who are cheap but are journeymen with no real talent as we have done in the past. Maybe we should just stick with our own lads, and bring a few more youngsters into the side.

3.) 19 Jan 2018 11:11:08
Wasn’t wanting more youngsters in one of the reasons MW and co got the sack? We need experienced Championship players but I don’t hold out much hope of getting the Boro lads, they are the type of players we need.Not much time left to get deals done.

4.) 19 Jan 2018 11:23:33
I think Karanka mentioned we had a very young side and suggested that going forwards he would address this so we are more balanced with experience as well.

I'd be surprised if we don't see 1 or 2 in during this window, there is probably more going on behind the scenes than we know, duck swimming analogy and all that.

12 days is loads of time:)

5.) 19 Jan 2018 11:58:05
I have not assumed anything or stated he should or should not. I have never panicked being a forest fan, my glass is always half full and try and remain optimistic. I am certainly not one of these calling for a managers head every time we are on a losing run. We obviously need some improvement, but that comes over time. let's not forget were we were last season!!

6.) 19 Jan 2018 13:00:43
got to agree Gingerkid
We should be pleased that we are being more professional as a club not like the Fawaz days.
There is plenty of time to bring in the right players to improve the team

7.) 19 Jan 2018 13:01:22
Let's not forget there is more than one team we can buy players from 😂

8.) 19 Jan 2018 13:23:33
From what I have read, we have shown interest in the Boro players, but can't match or compete with the wages. If we get some players out first, it then frees up some money for wages.

9.) 19 Jan 2018 13:29:36
Daz - I don't think one of the reasons MW got sacked was for bringing youngsters in??? he got some youngsters in and then tried to get them to play out of position or in a different way. Bit like a site manager getting sparkies to do the plumbing :)

10.) 19 Jan 2018 13:58:19
2Tone I was trying to highlight the fact that MW wanted to bring in “more” young players to go with what we already have and the powers that be didn’t agree with that.So it was not “the” reason but apparently it was one of them.



18 May 2017 16:45:00
On bbc its a done deal. Got great vision for the future. Here's hoping.

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17 Feb 2018 14:30:50
I was right about fox in a new centre backs pairing. the kitchen sink has been thrown in today. Come on forest get at em.

rutland red1

1.) 17 Feb 2018 15:23:18
Come on you reds!!! Have to win today!!! Make it happen!!!

2.) 17 Feb 2018 17:07:06
Fox’s block kept us in it for all those slating him



01 Feb 2018 09:14:21
I thought i read yesterday that trarore had his contract terminated by mutual consent?
Watson hopefully will get the formalities completed today. Just what we need. Skipper material.
Can't belive warnock let tomlin go. He has great attitude.

rutland red1

1.) 01 Feb 2018 09:27:32
Tarore was negotiating i think, Dawson not coming must have changed things.



25 Jan 2018 13:01:01
I know we are all sick of velios talk and i promised not to mention him again, however. He must be on a deal where his next appearance opens up a down payment to Everton. I just wish the club would make a statement.
Velios is 6'4 very athletic and though seems unprolific at previous clubs his goals have been crackers. He has more mobility than murphy so surely we must try and realise his potential. At this level he could be the real deal. He must make a habit of humling the chairmans dsughter at every club as on footballing terms we could have a big missed opportunity here. Please just give him a go til season end we have nothing to lose, or like i said their could be contracual issues!

rutland red1

1.) 25 Jan 2018 13:11:20
Think you'll find it's just the managers don't rate him,end of

2.) 25 Jan 2018 13:19:07
Just like abdoun deibour velios is happy picking up his wages for nothing.
Send him back to Greece

3.) 25 Jan 2018 13:41:08
No one really knows the reason why he hasn't got any game time but the club need to look to offload him if he is not part of their plans. He's one player who we could actually get a fee for.

4.) 25 Jan 2018 13:50:35
His value is zero. Hs will be seen as damaged goods so who would pay a fee for him. If he is any good then why dkn't we play him. If he is crap as you all say and on good money we have a problem. Its a strange situation. Why don't we just come to an agreement and pay him off with half his wages!!!!

5.) 25 Jan 2018 14:14:44
Why would a manager play him if he doesn't rate him,just because we are paying him good wages?
I'll go with Karanka making the right decision.

6.) 25 Jan 2018 14:23:51
How is he damaged goods?is he really happy JUST picking up his wages?to me he seems unhappy about not getting a game which makes that statement look a bit silly as he wants to play for that moeny

7.) 25 Jan 2018 14:29:14
His Velios in a lot of fifa 18 teams and does he have a great rating on the Xbox game I’m just wondering if fans are seeing something that 3 managers ain’t seen on the pitch in the real world 😄

8.) 25 Jan 2018 14:39:59
Sutton the longer he is out of our team then people will smell a problem. I will be brutally honest. Its a disgrace the way the club have treated him, particularly without giving the fans a reason. What harm can it do playing him? its not as if he is a defender where a mistake is costly. He might just score a goal, look how many sitters murphy has squandered.
We could be in a win win situation. Play him he scores and his value is restored. If he doesn't score then neither have murphy brereton cummings mckay etc been prolific. All our crap players that karanka wants alledgedly to off load are worthless. A good manager would look at velios in a match situation to make proper judgement. What could possibly go wrong. The situation stinks to me.

9.) 25 Jan 2018 15:12:07
So your saying if Karanka doesn't play him he's a bad manager?

10.) 25 Jan 2018 15:15:17
Why would any manager in there right mind play a player that is not doing well on the training ground and put him into the first team and if he’s not happy with the way he’s been treated which is probably his doing as the last 3 managers ain’t played him go nobody’s stopping him let’s hope he’s off our freeloading wage bill by next week

11.) 25 Jan 2018 16:39:04
Rutland-it’s a disgrace how the clubs treating him and shocking how the club haven’t told us what’s going on??the situation stinks 😂 maybe in the future don’t break your own promises , then you wouldn’t have come out with that lot of trash 👍

12.) 25 Jan 2018 16:16:07
I am saying he needs managing ffs. Who in their right mjnd treats an asset like this. Ff79 Karanka should play him or give us the reasons. When we have struggled to score recently and now murphy has been out surely when you have a top earner and asset you play him or put him in the squad. Velios is not a crap player he is better than murphy and younger. He may have an attitude problem. He won't be the first. Their were many on here hoping that karanka would now give him a chance. He was in the villa game squad so maybe karanka sees an opportunity and all is not lost. But i will put my balls on the line, jf karanka does not get him fit and available then its a waste of time and talent and poor communication from the club to fans.

13.) 25 Jan 2018 17:15:50
Lol 2tone true but it is doing my head in😣😅

14.) 25 Jan 2018 17:36:21
Karanka has already said he wants him to go along with ward mills and Carayol,So Karanka doesn't want him.
If you think vellios is a better player than our other forwards? Then that's your opinion but not the managers

15.) 25 Jan 2018 18:13:52
Why all the hate for Velios? Saying he’s happy just to take the money is just daft. You know that for a fact do you? He’s made it from obscurity to the subs bench so Karanka must see something in him. It’s obvious that Warbo didn’t .

16.) 25 Jan 2018 18:18:46
I think you will see Vellios play some part against Hull at the weekend. I'm neutral on the situation but I hope he starts or comes on as a sub and bags a couple of goals just so I can see all the "I told you so" posts on here.

17.) 25 Jan 2018 19:21:19
Yes I can see him playing a part at hull polishing Brereton s boots 😝

18.) 25 Jan 2018 22:27:28
How do you know if he doesn't perform in training, we don't?
Give him a game or two as sub and see how he fares.
Nothing to lose by using vellios as sub?

19.) 25 Jan 2018 22:59:21
Fawaz get over it he’s becoming as bad as your name the sooner it’s gone the better 😀



21 Jan 2018 12:09:25
Can some who went yesterday descrkbe the performance? Was it a lot different to MW?

rutland red1

1.) 21 Jan 2018 12:17:55
From what I heard on the radio,we showed a lot more fight.

2.) 21 Jan 2018 13:04:52
I listened on the radio and it sounds like they have been told to be a bit more aggressive, 3 early yellows and it seems like they were up for it.

It sounded like we did to Wolves what other people have been doing to us when we've dominated games but lost. Well done Forest!.

3.) 21 Jan 2018 13:23:21
Also can anybody confirm system, heard 4-1-4-1 with Bouch in front of back 4 ?

4.) 21 Jan 2018 15:18:05
Confirmed Perks,Bouch was the minder with Bridcutt a bit further forward but out of possession the lads were very quickly 451 with the wider players like Cash tucking in and even Dowell doing a bit defensively.Well drilled and organized throughout though,they looked like they knew what they were doing!

5.) 21 Jan 2018 19:58:12
Cheers Stokey.Think any signings will happen this week?

6.) 21 Jan 2018 21:19:44
How was Bouch as the minder/defensive midfielder? I was told by Greek friends when we signed him that his best role is similar to Dowell just behind the striker and as the most attacking midfielder but he has never really had that role for Forest and has been asked to play Deeper. I would be interested to see how he would do in a more offensive role as we all know what a long shot he has and his pass is decent it is his tackling that has been a weakness for me in that Central or defensive midfield position.



18 Jan 2018 20:07:02
Watching norwich lastnight. They were good and a great advert for championship football. Their was a directness about them that chelsea struggled to cope with. The football was scintillating and our old boy olivera just brilliant. Chelsea struggled to pass it out of defence as they were swarmed. Norwich could pass it out, long ball it or the centre half coukd carry it. Great blue print just saying😁😁.

rutland red1

1.) 18 Jan 2018 21:08:47
They played a Chelsea side who's players want rid of the manager and a manager who doesn't want to be there?
Truth of the matter is they can't turn out good performances week in and out in the championship just like us,hence their position in the league,

2.) 18 Jan 2018 21:20:04
The blueprint isn't doing them much good in the league though is it rutland?
Nor the cup for that matter. They got knocked out. Just saying.

3.) 18 Jan 2018 21:20:11
Well no-one can argue with that observation!

4.) 18 Jan 2018 22:54:29
I was talking about one game lastnight which you cannot deny was good. For whatever reason Norwich turned it on with great style that's all.




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16 Feb 2018 16:25:33
Murphy will play but expect worral or msncienne or both to drop out. Watson with the arm band hopefully

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15 Feb 2018 21:31:56
Ff, does Mancienne and Worral keep their places? I think ond or both will go. Do you know if Hobbs has died?
My honest opinion is that their is nothing to lose from massive changes. The minimum from sat is a battling draw. In reality we need to take the game to them, we need some fire in the offensive!

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14 Feb 2018 06:23:32
Great post ruddy

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13 Feb 2018 14:45:11
Lets be honest and realistic. Our current form and situation is that of a relegation destined team. It could happen but probably won't if AK can install a captain/leader ( watson ) and gets the troops battle hardened and unified. Its time now to play the experience he has drafted in, reconnect with the fans and givd it everything from now is going to take a gargantuan effort but no more pussyfooting around with the wimps.

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13 Feb 2018 10:41:00
Fair enough sutton but based on what you have witnessed thus far do you think Karanka has it to change the fortunes of this utter mess?? Bear jn mind he walked at middlesborough throwing his toys with a good team of players. I would say that his job is now one of the most daunting in our league no doubt.

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16 Feb 2018 16:29:42
Rogie red i dod not make your squad, gutted😃😃😃

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15 Feb 2018 21:39:25
This team ship goals and that is becoming a worrying trend. Its even more worrying the lack of goal threat from us. That is where we need to get busy. AK can you deliver on one or both???
Big saturday coming up.

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14 Feb 2018 06:45:32
Just a thought. Msybe mancienne has gone down hill since ZONAL MARKING was introduced. When you see our bsck four retreating in a line when attacked and then see the two central defenders static at set pieces then the mind boggles. Mancienne has been good in the past but looks so uncomfirtable now, is it down to the system?
He is no captain but maybe i have been harsh on my recent critiscm of him. To my mind good centre halves pose a threat both when attacking and defending set pieces. They know how to position themselves to attack the ball and not worry about being out manouvred od bullied. Hobbs was good at it, in both boxes, john terry the master.
Just my thoughts.

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14 Feb 2018 06:33:38
Traorae is a very good player. Just needs clear guidance and simple messages. But you do not give warnock less than 100%. He is proven experienced and a mans man. Great manager, humerous and has the nack of freshening his squad at crucial times.

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13 Feb 2018 17:25:40
If karanka said that retford then its more than worrying. Stevie Wonder could see that the team is rudderless. Geduiora is a decent midfielder but not a captain. Bridcutt again works hard but injury prone and quiet. AK should have coirage for his convictions and put Watson in as skipper and and reshuffle back four. If he plays mancienne then that will be even more worrying. Worral msy need some time out too. Fox is worth a shout alongside the big spaniard.

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