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18 May 2017 16:45:00
On bbc its a done deal. Got great vision for the future. Here's hoping.

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15 Jan 2017 14:12:11
What a week for forest fans. We never know for sure the details of what actually goes on inside the club hut from outside it looks in a perilous state. I think if the rumours are true re jj investment its either back to the negotiating table or see ya in court Fawaz.

I would imagine from whatever angle you look fawaz and his kind or not good to do business with, hus track record is poor. Moores maybe trying to steal the club but fawaz us between a rock and a hard place. Removing PM makes sense, tho a shame, so either a plan is afoot or he is having a fire sale.

I still don't think bashing fawaz will acheive anything positive. As fans we remain powerless all we can do is continue to support voice your opinion and hang on. But its vital to the name of forest we hang on in their.

Get behind the players, for if we go down the club need us hugely in our future and right now. We need to show future manager and future players that we are great supporters!

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1.) 15 Jan 2017 16:07:36
Why sack pm when you still got to pay him . Wouldn't been better keeping him On till things are sorted out ?


2.) 15 Jan 2017 16:10:36
Well said rudders


3.) 15 Jan 2017 16:14:22
Only by removing FAH completely will Forest become a real football club again.


4.) 15 Jan 2017 16:23:16
we are greatley supported world wide we do not want our great club destoyed hang on in there guys ( true supporters)


5.) 15 Jan 2017 18:39:19
Poor Montanier has been managing with his hands tied. He's not been a master tactician but when selection choice is so limited you have to make the best of what you have.


6.) 15 Jan 2017 20:24:14
You are right bsered as I said in yesterdays post why should anyone buy the club unless its outright. I'll bet Fawaz would not buy it this way


 

 

19 Jun 2014 17:51:36
Laing has signed. Alert from forest to my phone.

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19 Oct 2017 21:03:52
2tone asked me if i enjoyed prince billy's post match preambles. But it struck me that early doors Billy was very very good. He got the defence and midfield fairly solid and moved heaven and earth to get his caprain from preston mckenna installed. Best skipper since pearce, possibly.
It seems our current manager us the polar opposite to BD in setting up not to lose first and foremost. I was no BD fan in his 2nd coming but his passion in hus first employment was real.

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1.) 19 Oct 2017 21:19:30
Good reply Rutland- going back to after match interviews I can honestly say I hate them all, I just want honesty and there’s not many manager who have the balls to just say it as it is - the most honest I can think of is Sean dyche. He must have had a good upbringing-kettering roots that must have been helped on their way by a football genius (BC)


2.) 19 Oct 2017 22:01:35
I sold sean dyche a car when he was in kettering. Think he was on loan at rushden and diamonds from watford. His voice alone scared the sith out of meπŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚


3.) 21 Oct 2017 13:51:18
Sounds like the late Mike Reid!!!


 

 

18 Oct 2017 19:33:58
Some great posts on here about MW. IN REALITY though how many managers would get away with humiliating a striker who scored 5 goals from the bench pre season and not get a single opportunity as yet? Gives a 3 year contract to a 34 year old, btw who i like, but treats seasoned pros with such ambivilance is beyond me. He is a strange beligerant man.

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1.) 18 Oct 2017 20:39:07
History is littered with managers who have had their favorites, and in many cases players that were considered better being left out.

Someone a while back said our next manger needs to have more Championship experience, a manager with more Championship experience is going to want a big wad in both his wages, and in a transfer budget, that rules out many mangers with plenty of Championship experience.


2.) 18 Oct 2017 20:39:38
Agree with your points Rutland but what concerns me more is talent like Brereton and Clough not getting the opportunity to flourish in their favoured position.
I know Murphy is doing well be surely Brereton is an ideal substitute to replace sometime in second half with the carrot of go win your place in the side.
Clough I think is getting overlooked for Dowell.
I do rate Dowell a lot but we must remember Clough is our player and maybe his development should come first.


3.) 18 Oct 2017 21:48:03
The reason is we have too many players that play the same way but none of them are good enough to hold down a place.

We are 6 very different players short of a full picnic!

We have to let nature run its course and allow Warbo to to shuffle the pack but his hands are tied until the summer when we can get rid of most of the players everyone moans about?

Keep the faith and trust we will stiffen the spine in January to keep us on the up and judge your manager on our squad and performance over 2018?


4.) 18 Oct 2017 21:49:08
Dowell is a boy and it shows. Makes poor decisions. I really think clough deserves a run. On sunday mckay was taken off when in truth he was the most effective attacking force. Bewildered lil ole me. Warbs is a strange one


5.) 18 Oct 2017 21:51:06
I do agree. How long do we have to endure this frustration.
The quality in depth is there! He seems to have favourites, no matter what.
Seems he will not be advised. He will ultimately be the master of his own demise.
The team he picks against Burton will be interesting.
As fans we can only tell it as we see it.


6.) 18 Oct 2017 22:37:19
Prefer the word destiny .
Demise means it's been decided.

Doesn't matter becuase in reality no one wants him sacked?


7.) 18 Oct 2017 23:10:51
Good post red.
A voice of reason in where we're at.
Warbo not going for a Burton yet?.


8.) 19 Oct 2017 09:14:25
Hi rutland, at last one of a few fans who actually sees things like they are.
You are right the breadman is a strange kettle of fish.
His way of thinking is beyond belief.
Vellios needs to be in the team along with lichaj.
But what do we know?
We are just fans.


9.) 19 Oct 2017 11:52:45
Cheers fawaz. Some more thoughts. We all want consistency and a settled msnagerial team that's given time RIGHT????
So why does warberton keep chopping and changing. Te defence is different every week so how can they settle into a system and grow a little confidence? Mckay must be wondering wtf??? Hobbs must be crying and as for velios i do not think he exists and is just a figment of our imaginationπŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚


10.) 19 Oct 2017 18:21:19
I'm sorry but putting brereton before Velios makes no sense to me at all


11.) 19 Oct 2017 20:20:01
Why does it make no sense billybong?


12.) 21 Oct 2017 20:00:51
No ff Demise is the correct word and definitely not destined to fulfil the ambitions of Forest.


 

 

30 Sep 2017 19:34:12
Great to hear the positive vibe on here tonight. 2 up front was a relief. We weathered a storm but now we have a valuable platform to build on and the break is not ideal but vaughn coukd be in contention in a couple of weeks. Well done to the lads and management. Make no mistake a great resultπŸ˜„πŸ˜„πŸ˜„.

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30 Sep 2017 02:20:28
To all you fellow posters who insist on keeping with mw. For all our sakes i hope we give a battlkng performance against sheff u. If any of the humiliated 3, hobbs, licha, velios vet picked and we lose then they will get the " i told you so " remarks. But these players need a run i the team not judged on kne performance.
I cannot get to matches these days so rely on commentary, tv etc. For those who stump and follow the reds home and away can you really see improvement in the team?
We are not judging mw on 10 games. He had 3 months last season, the summer and nearly 2 months of this season. By the sounds of things attacking wise we had better 2nd halves against villa and fullham creating more chances but simply not scoring. Well if you leave the back door open you will get burgled and that is his achilles heel. Playing footy is one thing but doing the dirty work defensively is the springboard for success. It is pretty much a given that succesfull teams have settled well drilled defence. So with the changes forced tomorrow will the line up be given a chance to gel? The slide needs to be halted and this game against a streetwise battling sheffield will be another great yardstick. A battling draw could just be the launch pad needed. Has mw got it?
Lets hope soπŸ˜ƒ.

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1.) 30 Sep 2017 05:15:46
What is it with the Hobbs fans? Yes he can play, but there are two things wrong with Hobbs. 1) He is injury prone, some can not accept that. 2) For all his quality he is slow, combine that with his high wages that makes him a player that needs to leave the club, but like many others over years he clings on to the bitter end.


2.) 30 Sep 2017 06:20:53
Probably cause mills can't play is slow and on high wages


3.) 30 Sep 2017 07:25:39
Rutland why do you say Hobbs is clinging on? Do you know something we don't? Given a choice between him and Mills I know who I'd pick - I agree with many on here who think the defence needs a shake-up, so why not try a different line-up?


4.) 30 Sep 2017 07:34:01
sorry Rutland I got the wrong poster - too early in the morning. I agree with you actually


5.) 30 Sep 2017 08:33:15
Ok swiss red lol i posted at 3am. Ppl miss the point. Hobbs if hobbled should be paid off. Indurance will cover it. So all i am saying is we should have some clarity re hobbs licha and velios. " not in my plans " like a normal msnager would say. Its playing lesser quality players that we just don't get.
Our slump in fortune coincides with vaughn being sidelined too. Bridcutt does not have the same bite or quality of pass!!!!


6.) 30 Sep 2017 11:33:31
On what basis is everyone saying Hobbs is not NOW fit? Yes he has had his problems but unless someone is in the know he has not broken down when called upon under MW and has certaintly looked more solid than the other centre backs.
It seems MW is not prepared to give him a run rather than his fitness not allowing him?


7.) 30 Sep 2017 14:03:18
Hobbs is our best cb. Yes he is injury prone but he needs a run of games. If he is a high earner can we at least get some value for money out of him? We don't get that if he is sat on the bench. that's why we can't sell him either. What would you do in his place? "Hobbsy, you can go and play at this other team for about 10 grand a week less, or you can stay here and sit on the bench". " hold on gaffer. Can I think about it?"
If he was a youngster he would be off to play football but the rest of you would do exactly the same. He needs games.


8.) 30 Sep 2017 18:51:03
Hobbs needs a run of games? If he is not fit he is unable to play, if fit a run of games means he will get injured. We can not sell him as he is not fit for long enough, he should have retired at least 2 years ago.


 

 

27 Sep 2017 06:31:40
I read MW PROFILE lastnight. Fro what i can gleen, he is more suited to a director of football role. He only played at non league level and has high principles regarding how things should be done. He has fallen foul of hirarchy at several clubs. I think he inherrited a reasonable squad at brentford but he would not be compromised over his ethos so he fell out with the chairman. now to my point and it surrounds msinly his outright disregard for velios, who in many ppl's view has been harshly treated. I think bouchalkis was forced on warburton so his retaliation is velios. It may sound far fetched but i am digging for a reason as to why he refuses to play or even experiment with him.
Also warbs has taken the same backroom staff with him in wier and mcparland. In some ways i feel for him but he js single minded and compromise is not part of his make up.

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1.) 27 Sep 2017 09:38:44
I don't want to put MW down or see him out as we need stability but I have to admit rutland that I don't get why he won't use certain players. Hobbs needs games (if fit) and is our best cb. Vellios could do no more. Lichaj not getting a sniff?? I thought he wanted rid due to high wages but while they are at the club bloody play them.


2.) 27 Sep 2017 09:50:13
I take it you don't like him Rutland oh well bring in another manager we can get sacked after a few months


3.) 27 Sep 2017 11:06:36
No i don't like his so called style or treatment of some players. He truly baffles and is full of codswallop talking about players becoming streetwise etc. He picks the players, some are too young and not up to it yet. Yes time is neccessary but in this day and age you will not get it. If giving warbs time means flirting with relegation again then we will see were the loyalty lies!!!!


4.) 27 Sep 2017 11:18:02
Redfin just imagine you are hobbs. Or even velios. Seeing players get chosen before you and you are fit. What do you ask yourself, particularly in the fact the worral for example is making big mistakes. if hobbs is not fit or has a career ending problem then pay him off, insurance will cover it. If not then why has he not been given a run like worrall and mills and brereton have been given. Hobbs was once captain and a proud man. Negativity will fester. As for velios well i would be sulking big time now and rightly so. If murphy is better, which he may be then surely velios could be used as a sub occaisionally, keep him sharp and matchfi etc. Do you see my point???
Oh and lijcha??? Is a better player than any fullback deployed on matchday. Has the passion and drive and vocallity that is missing. He must be a happy chap too!!!!


 

 

 

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21 Oct 2017 20:37:59
Well that is crazy. If your info is correct. The sort of passion filled player that adds bote to the team...

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30 Sep 2017 19:38:25
I think he gas struggled of late against 2 markers

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27 Sep 2017 22:05:02
I said less ego and as for holloway he has motivated average teams to the very very top. Ppl bang on about king billy, king of bs. A meglomaniac. Remember paul hart??? He knew how to harness youthfull endeavour, played a bit of footy but that was not enough for forest. He got sacked, disgracefully in my opinion.

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27 Sep 2017 20:47:02
Skeggs asked the same question. I think a manager with less ego and more common sense would pick lijcha hobbs and velios. Have a skipper and a better grip of defending. I may have opinions but i cannot choose. But managers like holloway, big sam and neil warnock seem to quickly get their players playing with endeavour and look like battlers. Big big passion and where sometimes the foofball jsn't the prettiest they get at the opposition. The players under theses managers play well above their abilities. Its simple motivation.

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27 Sep 2017 12:38:39
Agreed redfin

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19 Oct 2017 22:01:35
I sold sean dyche a car when he was in kettering. Think he was on loan at rushden and diamonds from watford. His voice alone scared the sith out of meπŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

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19 Oct 2017 20:55:28
Early days were ok but paranoia took over 2tone

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19 Oct 2017 12:02:09
Next 4 games? He is on a next game scenario. Truth is plain to see on that pitch. Confusion reigns. On sunday his subs were like for like and made no difference well actually we got worse. A battling draw at worst against Burton or i feel the trigger will be pulled. Can you imagine what the players have to listen to from warbs? His after match diatribe is consistsntly annoying and full of outdated cliche.

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19 Oct 2017 11:52:45
Cheers fawaz. Some more thoughts. We all want consistency and a settled msnagerial team that's given time RIGHT????
So why does warberton keep chopping and changing. Te defence is different every week so how can they settle into a system and grow a little confidence? Mckay must be wondering wtf??? Hobbs must be crying and as for velios i do not think he exists and is just a figment of our imaginationπŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

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18 Oct 2017 21:49:08
Dowell is a boy and it shows. Makes poor decisions. I really think clough deserves a run. On sunday mckay was taken off when in truth he was the most effective attacking force. Bewildered lil ole me. Warbs is a strange one

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