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14 Dec 2017 15:59:24
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11 Dec 2017 10:52:36
Clough has been linked with a loan move to Bolton, is that a wise move, i can understand Clough wanting it as he is not getting enough games, but it would strengthen another Championship club.

Believable1 0Unbelievable

11 Dec 2017 12:21:31
Clough being kept out of the side by Dowell and won,t improve by not playing ,really needs a run in the side to see how good he is but that won,t happen with Dowell here begining to look like another Patterson situation and could end with someone getting him on the cheap.
CARLO

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11 Dec 2017 12:33:57
This is a tough decision but Clough needs games to loosen the rust and keep him sharp.
Itโ€™s a catch 22 situation unfortunately.
Itโ€™s like robbing Peter to pay Paul.

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11 Dec 2017 14:43:08
I know Dowell is good but its hard to see our own players suffering while we develop someone elses youngster. If there was a chance of buying him fine but I can't see it. You end up with him leaving and our player wanting to leave.loans are ok to bolster positions your short in.

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11 Dec 2017 18:32:29
Could always loan him to Notts that way he gets a game and won't give a team in our league a decent player

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11 Dec 2017 22:40:47
Why not just play Dowell and Clough?

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12 Dec 2017 17:42:10
you have to feel for clough i thought he was a great buy when we got him but to be fair he has not lived up to my expectations but he will have his chance again no way will dowell stay at forest but he's playing well so you can't really drop him,but i would use clough more than MW has this season

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12 Dec 2017 22:35:23
Thing is with Dowell he's very inconsistent,hat trick one game ,totally ineffective the next,last few games he's played he's been poor,but so has osborn.
Against Bolton it was a toss up which one to take off or even both?.
He's got talent no denying,but he's young and runs got and cold.
Osborn has been given the midfield role he craved for,but despite his running around has failed to show why he should play there.
I'd like to see clough come good and to be fair he started the season first choice no 10 but didn't grasp it,My concern is he's lightweight as Osborn McKay Vaughan and Bridcutt are,got to have some presence in midfield for me,players like clough and McKay need a midfielder too do the dirty work for them.
At Bolton he was surrounded by enforcers allowing him to play his game.
We need a hard tackling big presence in midfield to let the attacking midfielders to flourish.

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12 Dec 2017 23:52:43
Clough needs game time to sharpen up. A short term loan with a call back option would be if it club and player.
If he enables Bolton to beat the teams we are trying to climb above in the league then it's a total win win situation.

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13 Dec 2017 16:07:54
So having loans players in means loaning your own expensive players out !
Sounds like a merry go round that benifits two other clubs but unless the one you,ve got is epceptional of no benifit to you and possibly cost you money .
In the championship if you pay out big money I think unless the player you have bought is really poor they should get a good run in your side or the money,s been wasted.
CARLO

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13 Dec 2017 20:27:47
Think your right on that Carlo,not a fan of any loan deals myself,unless in extreme circumstances,where your struggling in an area with injuries.
Like to see clough given a run,first few games he looked the part and scored goals.
It's that same old problem though,he was signed by fawaz and maybe warbo don't rate him,this is a reason to stay with warbo let him sort out who he wants to keep and who he wants to bring in.
I do think we're overloaded with midfielders who mostly have the same build,small and easily bullied out of games.
For me if we can get our money back and say a few million for Osborn,then get a couple of stronger all round midfielders I'd be happy with that.
We seem to have had a pattern over the last five years of having these diminutive midfielders time for a change.

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14 Dec 2017 11:11:03
Quigly,Newton,Barnwell,Lyall,McGovern,Gemmill,Hodge,Reid, McKenna and many more ,not one over5'8 "it,s not height but talent and commitment that matters .
CARLO

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14 Dec 2017 13:55:08
Your talking way different quality from the players we have now.
Not a single midfielder we have now would have got into any of the sides any of those players played in.
I don't question the commitment of our midfield,it's just a fact they can't tackle and other than McKay and Dowell don't score either.

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10 Dec 2017 09:04:05
Was at the game not a great performance but a much needed win that's stating the obvious
What frustrates me is we got the early goal and then allowed a poor Bolton team to get on top.

Why does our manager thinks that Osborne and Dowell has the strength to be our midfield engine room.
Murphy hasn't got the legs anymore to run the line for long periods of the game
We certainly steadied the ship when Bouchalakis came on can't understand why he doesn't make more starts
Just a few points I could name a few more what do you think.

Believable10 1Unbelievable

10 Dec 2017 18:34:17
Very few of the midfield combinations MW has made seem to have worked so far.

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10 Dec 2017 19:57:02
We need Jamie Ward in the midfield when we need to dig in as he is always the first to put his foot him and raise the tempo when required!

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10 Dec 2017 22:19:05
Redinexile great post,you will see in my previous posts that imo Wardy should always start if fit.Great little player and a real (mostly unused) asset!

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11 Dec 2017 07:00:05
He's not a MW player.

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11 Dec 2017 13:32:27
Red, you have been saying for weeks our midfielders are too small, and we need bigger players to compete! How does pint sized Jamie Ward resolve the issue!? I doubt Warbo will risk playing him now, with his dodgy hamstring, one match could see him back on the treatment table for months! I think he will be moved on in January.

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11 Dec 2017 18:04:34
Murdoch
You cannot pick players we do not have in the squad!!?
My issue is playing Vaughan McKay and Osborn together as they get steamrollered. Bridcutt has added some bite although not the tallest and Wardy is in the same mould!

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11 Dec 2017 20:37:37
Trouble with Ward though red, yes he will run all day for you, is a bit nasty, but has no end product. Also some of his efforts on goal have been shocking. I'm not sure bringing him back is the answer. I'd rather see us having two quick wingers that would be the outlet for our "under pressure" playing it out defence!

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11 Dec 2017 21:58:35
A slightly nastier Mackie?

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11 Dec 2017 22:50:33
Yep with the same injury record and can only last 70 mins even when fit.
Not the answer for me,

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09 Dec 2017 14:42:49
Wooly Bully is the Bolton signature song today having seen the Forest team sheet. Looks like we are in for a good roughing up given the size of the Bolton team?

Passing game and dancing on ice will have to be at least an 8 out of 10 for the boys to win?

Believable3 0Unbelievable

09 Dec 2017 14:58:41
It'll be 10 out of 10.
No worries.
Unlike the trains one coach from LE to Notts on a match day and shoppers plus a strike.
But it's 3 points in the bag,No worries

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09 Dec 2017 15:56:49
10/10 so far?

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09 Dec 2017 16:58:00
If thatโ€™s a 10/10 god help us when we put out 9 or 8.

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09 Dec 2017 17:13:22
We won Sutton,ground out a result for a change,are you sure yours red?

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09 Dec 2017 17:24:30
Well got away with 7 out of 10 for the win? Team showed what they can do when they turn teams but to take the pressure off our fragile defence we need to get more pace supporting Murphy.
Maybe if he tweaked the system the margins would not be so fine?

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09 Dec 2017 18:27:35
Nothing to do with pace,Osborn in particular had a stinker,total lightweight and Dowell wasn't far behind,time to give those two a rest,the two just not doing it,can't tackle and not creating.
Need more than that in the engine room.

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09 Dec 2017 19:14:23
If scoring 3 goals doesn't take the pressure off of the defence I don't know what will

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09 Dec 2017 19:48:31
We won, which is good. Terrible performance though. 1-0 up after 3 minutes. We should've put them to bed but we let them back into the game. Don't think we we're the better side at all. Woeful is a word I'd use for our performance. Lucky in the end.

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10 Dec 2017 09:26:18
Fact is we still have to score three to ensure we win.

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10 Dec 2017 11:16:28
Bsered

At least we can score 3, and did.

There is a lot of work to do to get the team to stop shipping goals but at least we are able to create chances.

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10 Dec 2017 20:15:19
Dress it up all you like but we were carp!

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07 Dec 2017 15:40:29
Lewis Walters has been loaned out to Barrow, is it a wheelie good move?

Believable0 0Unbelievable

07 Dec 2017 19:36:12
Yates spent a year there too. Walters just hasn't quite made it into the first team at Forest so it makes sense to give him some exposure in another Division.

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07 Dec 2017 22:43:12
If all works out he'll be playing across the Trent next season then.
Not so far to "wheel his barrow"๐Ÿ˜€๐Ÿ˜€

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08 Dec 2017 07:48:29
If he goes let's hope he "fetches" a good price!! ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‹

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08 Dec 2017 13:39:06
Indeed Rogie, we need to show them they can't push us around!

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09 Dec 2017 11:59:18
Myself I,ve aways found a one wheel barrow harder to push but easier tip up where as the two or four wheeler is much easier to push but hard to tip the cargo out!
CARLO

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06 Dec 2017 06:50:54
Many clubs in for Lichaj, including Leeds and some MLS clubs. Get his contract sorted now Forest, he's twice the player of Darikwa.

Believable17 0Unbelievable

06 Dec 2017 09:24:07
With so many clubs interested that should show Warburton how good he is, and he should keep being picked, and in his best position.

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06 Dec 2017 12:09:13
If the contract he,s being offered is the one in the post I still think MW is trying to move him on and then blame the player ,he loves TD.
CARLO

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06 Dec 2017 13:30:26
Carlo
Give over. Agent and club are haggling and Eric wants to stay!

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06 Dec 2017 13:48:56
I have to admit, I don't see what some of you do when it comes to Lichaj. He was released from a very poor Aston Villa squad, which in my opinion says quite a lot. He's done ok for us but that's about it. I have seen him play on many occasions, and have you all forgotten when he gets turned, he's always first in with a little kick or shirt pull. I'm afraid if you want to see football at a higher level, it means bringing in players of a higher standard than Eric. Now I know your all going to hit me with the fans player of the year. well there was nobody else really to pick, in what was a poor squad.

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06 Dec 2017 16:45:15
Murdoch

Although you have a point, what i think you are missing is that if he was as good as you want him to be he would not have hung around Forest.

When Antonio was with us Eric allowed him to do what he did best by covering his defensive duties.

Eric works hard is pretty good at defending and gets forward aswell, forget about him having been player of the year, he is our best defender.

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06 Dec 2017 19:43:35
Eric needs to stay and be made captain,he's been here long enough and majority of fans love him,he's happy and settled in Nottingham and always puts a shift in,someone has to take over from Cohen and I can't think of anyone better,still relatively young for a full back and someone who the fans relate to.
Sign him up and make him captain

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06 Dec 2017 21:23:30
Redman, unfortunately, due to the many years of decline at our club, I think we now have to accept that any decent players we get, or produce out of the academy are going to be sold to a bigger club with money. The hope is with the academy you produce a conveyor belt of talent. We therefore can't just look to sign average players as we are worried about them leaving at some point in the future. With Eric, we have had a very poor defence for over 2 seasons now, and the fact he's standing out as the best player, I think is not a reflection of his ability, but more how poor our defence has become. I see too much sentiment attached to this player, and as a business we want the best we can get. If we want progression, this is all part of it.

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06 Dec 2017 21:55:04
Murdoch were no different from any side outside the prem,You get a good player and he'll move on.
Even if you get to the premier,unless your top six,if you have a good player they'll move on.
Only got to look at Southampton for that,what a side they'd have if they could have kept the talent,got nothing to do with clubs in decline.

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07 Dec 2017 06:02:12
Britt left in the summer because he wanted to go but we kept hold of the youth
We will end up selling some but Fawaz has gone so the quick buck mentality should have gone too
Move forward Murdoch, that's what the club is trying to do and Eric is a player that can help us do that

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07 Dec 2017 09:07:25
Sell Eric at your peril Warbs!!!

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07 Dec 2017 13:42:08
We will have to agree to disagree on this one, as I really don't see that Eric raises the standard of the team. An ok championship player at best. If we went back to the last time we had a good back four, so I'm thinking Morgan, Chambers and probably Cohen at left back. Add Eric to that, and ask who is the weakest player? For me it's Eric all day long. Fast forward to now, and suddenly he's the best we have?! No, because you can pick 3 others ahead of him. This is my point about having better calibre players. We have been so poor in this area for years now, some of you have almost accepted the lower level as the new standard!

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05 Dec 2017 19:16:04
Liam Lindsay on the radar as a long term centre half replacement for the oldies provided we can get seasoned Championship defender in first?

Believable1 0Unbelievable

05 Dec 2017 19:48:31
Redinexile where have you seen that?

Yes you are right we need a seasoned defender, and he needs to be vocal, both in urging on those around him, and giving them what for when needed.

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03 Dec 2017 21:27:59
My money is on the next goalkeeper being David Marshall from Hull City.

Just the sort of experienced and inspiring keeper we need to marshal our defence?

Believable3 2Unbelievable

03 Dec 2017 23:47:57
Or more appropriately for our manager the bread man what about Mark Bunn or Bread Bin Van Der Sar?

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04 Dec 2017 07:33:08
Nice one Fred!!! Or how about "Bread" Friedal!!!

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04 Dec 2017 16:01:42
Who is your money for our next Manager ?

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04 Dec 2017 16:34:05
Jake
There is no manager vacancy so there is no point in mindless speculation?

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04 Dec 2017 17:40:59
Federici will be the new keeper.

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04 Dec 2017 20:59:16
Jake is a sheep fan.

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03 Dec 2017 20:30:33
It would be wrong to say it is ok for the lads to keep giving the opposition a goal in the early stages, let alone anytime during a game, off course it is not.

We gave Ipswich the lead three times, although that is not good enough we did get back in the game twice which is a sign that they have the bottle, and believe in the manager.

There is no getting away from, the lads very often are stuck in their own half pondering who to pass to and wasting valuable time when with a bit of gumption could be getting the ball forward and putting pressure on the opposition.

What we need to understand though is that no system is turned into a well oiled machine overnight, i can not say for sure but i would suggest Wimbledon did not get their system sorted in one season.

I would say there was less pressure on them to do well and went under the radar until they honed their system to the point they took the leagues by storm.

Warburton's plan seems to be bringing in young players then have the odd experienced player along side of them and trying to play a slick passing game.

Warburton's plan has two problems, the first is young players lack consistency, the second is that nowadays slick passing is a fading art unless you are in the very top leagues in the world.

What is a positive of wanting to play slick passing, once it has been honed is, when we get in the Premiership we will be more likely to stay there.

Warburton's way is something until it is fine tuned will be like pulling teeth by a bit of string on a door, it will take time and hurt like hell. We have however waited many years will two or three make any difference.

Believable3 4Unbelievable

03 Dec 2017 21:09:55
if anyone has forgotten we beat most of this team 3-0 to stay up last season. since then there additions have hardly been awe inspiring. In the meantime we've changed our team pretty much wholesale albeit in defence , and barely 20 games later we lose like that today concedind 4 poxy goals against by now you've probably guessed what i consider very ordinary oppostion.

Leeds are the only team to comphrensively take us apart and they didn't score 4 ffs, MW only makes like for like changes seldom makes tactical changes. i was unfortunate enough to be at Reading for instance and it was clear after 10 mins what was required.Did he change to avoid the blindingly obvious.

No his w subs were completely like for like just throwing on fresh legs hoping something would happen Hmmm, to say the jury is still out is an understatement.Dont necessarily want him gone but someone definitely needs to have a word in his ear!!

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03 Dec 2017 21:11:26
Well said red man

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03 Dec 2017 21:43:47
Systems??? Football is a simple game complicated by idiots. Their is a goal at each end of the pitch. You defend one and attack the other. Cloughie would wet himself with talk of this nonsense

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03 Dec 2017 22:02:09
What idiots like pep,mouriniho,and every other manager in any major league in the world?
You have to have as system of play.
Well seeing as there is a goal at each end we could just play 5 defenders and five attackers,job done.
Blimey it is simple,I've been watching idiots manage for years๐Ÿค”๐Ÿค”

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03 Dec 2017 22:16:05
When we beat Ipswich at home 3-0 we played a back 3 with wing backs and overlapping wingers, overloading the wide positions. We aren't playing that format at the moment with a definite back 4 so . .
I am certain we will get better as a team with MW at the helm, we have to show more patience

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03 Dec 2017 23:20:27
Nice one chuggs.

Was that a plan B?
Surely not?
No plan A according to some

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03 Dec 2017 23:31:17
Systems??? So a system is a rigid way of doing things and you stick to the system. Ah that's where we are going wrong. Not sticking to the system. Footbal is a fluid ever changing ebb and flow. You can have a formation thst you set out with that you can change due to circumstances but a system does not allow for change. Fact. Systems are things that people get bogged down in fact. We need personelle who are good at their job, can adapt to an evolving situation and be able to embrace change. Do you think that warnock gets his players bogged down with systems? No his players get stuck in wind up the opposition, makecthem make mistakes and they fight to the end. Thatscwhy clough and velios are out won't stick to the system. Think about it.

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04 Dec 2017 07:21:02
Why do people keep bringing top premiership managers in to it?
They play their "systems" and if it does not work they spend 50 million on a new player to fit into that system until it works
We are Forest not man u or city
We can't keep buying and buying, if the system does not work we need to change the system to suit what we have and that is where we are failing
No plan B

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04 Dec 2017 18:42:26
Warbos problem is he persists to use the same tippy tappy passing even when he can blatantly see that itโ€™s not working,as soon as he sees itโ€™s not working he should change it rather than stick with it but he is either too stubborn or a poor manger.

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04 Dec 2017 20:52:39
It's ground hog day.
Records stuck.

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04 Dec 2017 21:18:09
The forums getting really boring with all the scratched records stuck in the groove!

Time to bin off some of the old vinyl?

Any suggestions?

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04 Dec 2017 23:01:33
Yes red,can Steve the taxi driver come back on and tell us one of his stories from Birmingham airport,that was banter at it's best.

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05 Dec 2017 06:17:07
Yes the scratched records of those who believe breadman is the chosen one. . how about one you FF. โ€Donโ€™t Stop Believingโ€ or Let me Entertain Youโ€.
Donโ€™t worry ladies keep smiling๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

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05 Dec 2017 08:33:16
If we keep sacking managers every time you don't like him,it'll be
"Dire Straits" money ain't for nothing,You know.
As Celien says,better think twice before you role that dice.๐ŸŽฒ๐ŸŽฒ๐ŸŽฒ

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05 Dec 2017 18:22:07
Or in the case of the Fawaz Acolytes " Only the Lonely"?

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03 Dec 2017 19:48:41
As far as I can see mW doing a good job with the players he has and the bit of money he had to spend if its anyone's fault we are not in top 2 its maronakis for not giving mW enough money maranakis out.

Believable0 8Unbelievable

03 Dec 2017 21:12:59
4 good pro's to replace the 30 somethings down the spine of the team playing no nonsense footy when needed and we are sorted?

Owner and Manager IN!

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03 Dec 2017 22:13:35
I'm in total agreement with you there red.

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03 Dec 2017 22:18:18
Playing 30 something's players is short term, we are trying to develop the club in the long term.
Can't believe some of the fans on here

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04 Dec 2017 23:08:58
Chugs you miss read he said to replace the thirty something's.

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03 Dec 2017 19:46:02
Guys,
You WILL improve when you change your manager, because no matter what is blatently obvious to everyone your manager will never change.

Believable9 2Unbelievable

03 Dec 2017 20:16:45
I see rangers have won.๐Ÿค”๐Ÿค”

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03 Dec 2017 22:19:45
Is the manager responsible for individual player errors

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04 Dec 2017 18:46:37
Chugsy last season that was what the fans were blaming our results on when pm was in charge why is it different this season?

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