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09 Nov 2018 01:03:43
John Robertson is doing an evening at the Organ Grinder on Tues Dec 4th. Only 40 tkts available, so far 10 sold. Get in quick.

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08 Nov 2018 19:18:08
AK is pleased for FL in helping the sheep to do well. He was quick to mention that he inherited a side that had regularly challenged for promotion before FL joined them.

AK also mentioned how we have had a cycle struggle before he joined Nottingham Forest, i take it he is not confident getting anything from the Stoke game, or is he simply trying to quell our expectations.

Off course no one knows what the result will be but i will go for Forest to Win 2-1.

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08 Nov 2018 20:46:25
Facts so you can’t argue with what he’s said.

09 Nov 2018 10:44:27
Facts they may be, but had i been that situation i would have said i'm pleased for Frank with how well he has done in his first job as a manager, i wish him well. That is off course if i meant it. There was no need for what else he said, facts or not.

09 Nov 2018 11:03:24
The Forest fan insecurities about our near neighbours coming out again!
AK was just telling it how it is.
No doubt if the sheep manage to scramble out of the Championship dip at our expense that will be AK's fault? The guy just cannot win in some eyes!

09 Nov 2018 12:23:30
You seem to have a complex when it comes to AK, and people not being completely mesmerised by everything he does and says.

Why could he not just give the bloke praise then leave it there?

I'm not doubting what he said was right, off course it is right.

I thought his need to mention their recent promotion pushes, and our struggles he was trying to take away from Lampard doing better than anyone might have thought in his first job.

I also thought it showed a lack of confidence by Aitor of getting any points against Stoke tomorrow, so he came out with what he did.

In case you did not notice i then asked the question : Was it AK wanting to quell our expectations.

As no one has answered saying the latter that tells me the first thing i said is closer to the truth.

Off course that is speculation.

09 Nov 2018 12:52:40
Redinexile your so defeNsive about AK. Lampard has done a great job after a dodgy start. The bulk of hus squad he may of inherited and no doubt he would be told to spend wisely. His team is entirely british battle hardened. He may gave gambled with the peterborough lad but its paid off snd was only about 5mil. Trust me their a far better players suited to this league thsn the likes of the 3 amigo's which if the loaned two remain will cost about 30 mil. i know which manager i would rather have!!!!

09 Nov 2018 17:17:57
If he would of praised lampard for doing a great job so far fans would of been all over it asking why he’s being nice to the sheep humpers!like red said he can’t win.
Ak is bang on lampard has inherited a squad that has been good at getting up there then falling away come feb,we havnt quite got there yet so let’s praise when he as done a job rather than half way through it.

09 Nov 2018 17:23:00
AK did praise him though?

08 Nov 2018 18:13:45
Do we want or need Kieran Dowell in the new year, don't no what we have with the Greek but gueddy not been at his best last few games so might be worth looking at. What do you lot think, I didn't see a lot of him last season.

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08 Nov 2018 22:42:03
Not for me. Apart from scoring a few worldies did nothing

09 Nov 2018 08:30:57
So red man are we saying stick with gueddy and the Greek lad or do we need another option if so who, got anyone in mind.

09 Nov 2018 11:04:19
Nick Powell all day long?

08 Nov 2018 18:10:49
Watching Sri Lanka v England test match this afternoon.
Great big NFFC banner hanging from the castle overlooking the cricket ground.
Good work spreading the word guys.

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08 Nov 2018 12:22:13
I know Carvalho cost £13 mill, not broke any pots as yet we must be thinking long term . Patience needed with this lad he is still very wet behind the ears, this league takes some getting use to so give the lad time . We are so desperate for promotion it hurts, had so many new beginings, managers and owners we are punch drunk with it. When we get up, which we will it will cost us a pretty penny for class players, how deep do you want our owner to put his hand in his pocket. The stage is set for said Carvalho, yes we would have nurse maided him but that's what you do.
Watch out for the aerial threat from Crouch this weekend, he must fancy his chances against Pants, we need to protect the threat.

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08 Nov 2018 13:05:50
The trouble is, once we have nurse maided him he will be off to a bigger club. Even if we get to the Premier league he will leave once he has adjusted, and shown consistency.

08 Nov 2018 14:31:17
Not being argumentative or rude to any one person on here but just my view a lot of fans seem quite happy to wait around for this youngster to get up to scratch and be a first team player week in week out when some weeks he looks awful ok I get it we invested what I would say his a stupid amount of money in a youngster that one day hopefully we will get something back now the thing is what really pissess me off is your quite happy to not want our youngsters to play first team football because there not up to it lol there's no patients with them you just want them shipped out sometimes fans on here contradict them selfs and really haven't a clue what they say from one minute to the next

08 Nov 2018 18:31:42
No surely not, are you sure.

08 Nov 2018 18:35:51
Sutton will let you know with his research,he knows who said what and when.

08 Nov 2018 19:01:42
He needs to start with his comments lol 79

08 Nov 2018 20:59:32
I’m not sure what some of you lot a talking about or watching, Carvalho is joint second with five assists in the championship, mostly setting up goals for Grabban, which a few of you we’re slating not that long ago, we are conceding less goals which is a good sign for any side to get in the top six, build from the back, which was Cloughie’s methodology.

It’s no wonder why there’s a lack of atmosphere at the city ground, we’ll be known as the grumpy reds, Another win on Saturday then what are we going to complain about.

09 Nov 2018 00:38:57
Demis there's no lack of atmosphere because the football is boring and how you can compare any team or set up to clough is beyond me he might of build from the back but he had a bloody good midfield and strike force it was sweet football at it's best I wonder if we do make it to the premier league how many karanka lovers will be asking for is head after a few games because he's no premier league manager and if by some mere chance he proves me wrong I will be the first to hold my hands up 😆

09 Nov 2018 07:16:05
I get what your saying Skegs, but we have to remember this is still a fairly new side and the players need to express them self more, and I believe they’ve got the ability but they are afraid to show it because the fans are straight on the backs, that’s why they seem to perform better away from home, if and that’s a big IF we get to the prem we would see a whole different team.
Like you I remember the good old days, but they are gone and football has changed and so have the players mentality, but like you and me and the rest of us reds fans we can only keep dreaming,

09 Nov 2018 09:15:00
I can remember what the football was like when Clough arrived and it wasn’t pretty . It was a gradual improvement after a big overhaul of the squad. It takes time

09 Nov 2018 12:03:05
Comparing some of our youngsters to the talent of Carvalho 😆 😆 😆

Can you name a No10 in our academy with anywhere near JC's potential?? No, thought not.

Although, I'd imagine some fans couldn't see potential if it fell into their half-time pint.

09 Nov 2018 12:42:47
Not only is there not a no 10 in the academy,there isn't another one in the first team squad.
He has to play and our season will be defined a lot by how well he does.
He's definitely the better of the three with goncalves a waste of space altogether

09 Nov 2018 12:55:12
Jc’’s potential is open to debate, and players in the championship who cost 13 mill are bought to be match winning regular stand out performers,and havnt been brought in for their potential

09 Nov 2018 18:04:46
Trentender when Brian came he hardly had anything to spend no signing players from benfica for him he did make use of our home grown players woodcock, Robertson, o’neill,Anderson,etc karanka is a cheque book manager,of course I hope he succeeds, but his methods an situation are completely different to the great mans

09 Nov 2018 19:03:42
I think youll find he signed loads including breaking the record for a goalkeeper

09 Nov 2018 20:53:07
That was after we were promoted he only signed O'hare McGovern, Clark and Barrett, all bargain basement signings, to get us promoted.

09 Nov 2018 21:18:29
Trentender yes but not at the start that’s what you were talking about and comparing.

09 Nov 2018 23:11:26
Ff799 I think also peter withe and Larry Lloyd but like you say all bargain basement stuff mate

07 Nov 2018 12:45:47
Dowell has complained not being happy on Everton's bench, i feel he did not work hard enough but was good going at the opposition.

Is he better than any of our regular playing staff?

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07 Nov 2018 13:32:29
Better than carvallhio

07 Nov 2018 13:44:58
He did well, though he did fade towards the end of the season.

07 Nov 2018 16:16:52
Gave the ball away too much.

07 Nov 2018 16:52:57
Didn’t have the solid base we got now he would add going forward but doubt Ak would be interested

07 Nov 2018 18:10:49
Thing is bsered as with your comment previously regarding Guedioura giving the ball away,unless you have a midfield of Watson's and Colback's who stick to the 5 yard sideways pass you will give the ball away more if your trying through balls or 40 yard diagonals to try and create scoring opportunities.Someone has to be good enough and brave enough to try and make things happen.If they come off you look great if they don't you look bang average.

07 Nov 2018 20:16:28
If you are a midfielder you have to be able to pick a good pass, but also defend your own space, tackle back, and not keep gifting the opposition possession. "Making things happen" by taking risks is too often a cover up for poor play.

07 Nov 2018 21:11:41
Carvalho has already played in more killer passes than Dowell did although he has a better eye for goal.
I'd be interested in knowing which better creative Number 10 we have had at Forest in recent years as other than a half season from Majewski I'm struggling to think of anyone that gets close to Carvalho?

07 Nov 2018 21:36:05
In reply to the original post. Carvalho is and will be far better than Dowell. In my humble opinion,of course.

07 Nov 2018 21:56:24
Redinexile think that’s just wishful thinking on your part mate

07 Nov 2018 22:20:11
No Thanks, too lazy, never tracked back or defend, would you play him instead of Carvalho, I think not.

07 Nov 2018 22:20:41
Lol Carvalho can’t remember the last time we was close to paying 13 million plus for a number 10 can you redinexile is he proving he’s worth 13 million no where near he has a long way to go so I will be holding on to the praises at will change them when I think he’s worth 13 million

08 Nov 2018 00:12:20
Tomlin end of. Scored more in less, stronger, sees the possible not the impossible, rarely missed the target.

I must admitt to looking forward to seeing carvalaho develop into the player a lot on here think he is or will be. He is improving but a lot of game time wasted on him. Fortunately the better teams have come back to us and we are now well placed. With the new entre forward ansafared it could be exciting times ahead and if carvalaho blossoms then happy days.

08 Nov 2018 06:29:54
Rutland you say a lot of game time wasted yet in the same sentence say he is that game time isn’t wasted as it has helped him improve and helping him get to grips with the championship.

08 Nov 2018 11:16:30
I'd like Dowell back, he blew hot and cold but that's pretty much what we're getting with Carvalho at the moment.

If we could bring KD back on loan in January til the end of the season I think he'd give us a great option to battle JC for the No10 role.

08 Nov 2018 14:25:14
Some on here being blinded by the price tag, if one of our acadamy lads were getting his game time and performing like him my guess is most would be saying he’s not quite ready but because he’s cost 13mill + people are seeing stuff that ain’t there

08 Nov 2018 15:54:23
Stevie f
Off course the price tag is a big factor in people's assessment of him, the more a player costs the closer to the finished article you expect them to be. Look how good Britt A was for half the money.

08 Nov 2018 16:41:40
PP it’s easier to assess a striker his progress is measured in goals about this stage of last season dowell was being more effective than carvallhio is now

08 Nov 2018 18:42:19
Stevie f
The way i see it strikers are judged on goals scored, mostly as that is their main task after all but in Carvalho's case he will be judged based on effective runs, passes reaching their target, and how many tackles won.

I see your point though.

08 Nov 2018 23:03:14
Tomlin was better than both of them. He also had the ability and strength to hold the ball up which allowed other players to get forward and support.

09 Nov 2018 07:41:05
Tomlin will be here in Jan as cover,no one else can play ten if calvahalo gets injured,soudani was a mistake and not good enough.

09 Nov 2018 18:29:58
Ff779 I agree with you on soudani

07 Nov 2018 12:07:49
Lolley has won PFA player of the month, i'm pleased for him.

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06 Nov 2018 21:33:54
Two more for Tyler

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06 Nov 2018 22:28:12
Impressive stats and think the lads got something, he won't get a chance here though.

07 Nov 2018 06:44:47
He's at his level

07 Nov 2018 06:49:46
You never know FF. if he does well this season and then goes into league one and does well he might get his chance. Pleased for him in any case

07 Nov 2018 09:18:42
Be nice if he did get a chance grant scored a bucket load for Notts didn't get a look in

07 Nov 2018 10:23:53
Is grant now with luton on loan hows he doing ?

07 Nov 2018 09:53:16
Maybe our academy is not up to producing top class players. They seem to do well in League 1 and 2?

07 Nov 2018 11:26:48
Walker is at his level.not good enough for this league,proved that by what he did at Bolton.league 1 player at very not having a go at him and there’s nothing wrong with being a league 1 player.

07 Nov 2018 12:42:21
It’s better than most of us could do. Still a forest player though so nice to see him playing well and enjoying his football. I share the view that we generally seem to procure lads that are great a lower levels. Perhaps this is because every youngster that looks the part is hoovered by the big clubs who have 100’s in their academy. Another example perhaps of where wealth is ruining the game. Perhaps the FA should restrict how many players go into an academy to give accadmeies like ours a chance to snare some of them.

07 Nov 2018 15:24:57
The FA would need to miraculously sprout something from their nether regions where they are currently deviod!

07 Nov 2018 16:34:32
Unless the coaching at academy level just ain't up to par which I doubt ,managers are under to much pressure to produce that prob why our young lads don't get a good chance

07 Nov 2018 16:56:00
Hope Tyler helps Mansfield to promotion, better there than with the bitter lot across the river and their attention seeking chairman

07 Nov 2018 18:53:44
Stevie, love it mate - man after my own heart. Hope they get relegated and hope the stags put six past them .

07 Nov 2018 19:20:16
2star of course it’s better than what most of us could do but then again we havnt been training day in day out for 7years.
There’s nothing wrong with being a lower than championship player.

06 Nov 2018 14:50:55
Think Watson and Bridcutt will be moved on in January given that Yacob Tachtsidis, Guedeura and Colback are all above them in the pecking order not to mention Yates.

Good thing imo, would like to see left back cover for Robinson as Osborne not a natural LB and gets found out against good wingers.

Apart from that now Ansarifard signed i honestly believe we have s quad of players good enough for at least a playoff place and with a bit of luck automatic promotion.

Don't see 2 better sides than us over 46 games this seasoN in this division apart from possibly Leeds and Norwich.

And our squad is stronger than both of their's if they pick up injuries.

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06 Nov 2018 15:58:40
Watson's previous club were happy to make him a free agent so doubt he would get the type of deal he would want by another club.

06 Nov 2018 20:26:25
In my opinion we just need a left back. I think we’ll have a few teams in for Osborn and Cash. I can see a cheeky bid for Lolley coming in too. I’d like us to go for Bidwell I think wwe need to get rid of a right back, either Byram or Darikwa. Being greedy I’d look at a goal keeper too.

06 Nov 2018 21:01:15
Let me think about it 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
Byram became injury prone once he joined his present club, he joined Forest on a season long loan and soon got injured 🤔🤔🤔 he has to be gotten rid of as you put it.

The only ways Osborn and Lolley are going anywhere is either they demand to go, or the manager feels he can get better players in their place. You do not loan or sell players of their quality otherwise is you aim is promotion.

Cash could be loaned out but i feel he will stay as he used regularly as a impact sub, he has proven time and again he is willing to fight for a place in the team.

06 Nov 2018 21:51:23
Cash could be loaned out?
Great young player or should we take him to cash converters?
Wouldn't get get much for gonclaves that's for sure, dodged a bullet paying 20million for that one?
But who would? ticket home for that one, hilda showed more than that.

05 Nov 2018 20:54:56
Now it seems promotion is imminent,reading current posts, would we like to take you know who with us ,l,d miss the fixture if we were to separate or would we sooner gloat!

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05 Nov 2018 21:24:56
Take them with us"if" we make it,points are hard to come by in the premises, basically we'd get beat most weeks and only chance of staying there would be to take points off the likes of Derby,it's a divided league,six elite teams six very good teams and the rest just trying to survive.

06 Nov 2018 09:12:18
"Promotion Carlo" best chance we've had for years The championship this season is very average , last season at this stage the top 2 had 35 and 33 points respectively , this season 30 and 29 points for the top 2 , we only have 2 points more this season than last season after 16 games under Warbo so don't get carried away !!!!, long way to go but this season we have a stronger squad providing AK uses the right tactics and picks the right players

06 Nov 2018 14:29:06
Is the league average or have several teams improved , like us and so the points are getting distributed more around several clubs

06 Nov 2018 15:46:59
I think that the league is very average with teams grinding out results from hard work rather than quality. Take nothing away from Saturdays victory but if we are being totally honest it was a totally average game played out by 2 very average teams on the day. 3 attempts on target from 2 of the top 6 teams doesn't show quality. The fact that only highlight was the goal says everything.

06 Nov 2018 16:17:06
Trentender the league is average by definition if all the teams are bunched together

06 Nov 2018 19:22:38
good point

06 Nov 2018 20:28:59
I’d happily be the second best team in an average league. But can see us getting 7th which might be disappointing but is massive progress


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