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29 Dec 2017 15:34:34
I was one of the fans who really wanted stability to stick with a manager, give them plenty of time to get a decent backroom staff together and to try and implement a way of playing that can work through from the youngsters to the first team. I am however struggling to see enough positives from MW - the way he plays should be worked on through the academy and I'm sure we would see results in the coming years here comes the problem!

I cannot think of any manager who has ever been successful who hasn't played to his players or collective groups strengths, the level of success doesn't matter - it could be winning the champions league, a cup or winning a relegation battle. It looks to me that we are playing to our weaknesses in an attempt to play in a way that some of our players just cannot do.

We do have some good players and if they are encouraged to play to their strengths rather than their weaknesses we could easily have an extra 6-10 points this season. Come on breadman - play to our strengths and we will all support you, keep messing and it's a downwards spiral and more fans will get on your back.

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1.) 29 Dec 2017 17:05:20
But he’s not got a full squad capable of playing the football he wants. He’s not moaned about the squad that he has but it’s certainly obvious he feels he needs more of a certain type of player.

You’re right, we need stability but more importantly, and possibly above other things - we need patience and belief. No one is saying, “let’s see how this works over the next 5 years” - it’s a case of us understanding that right now, we are simply a mid table team trying to improve.

That improvement comes from a structure, a philosophy and a recruitment plan which are all on the same page.

Give this man another season and if it’s not working we look at our options. I’d also make a case for us being unable to attract top, top managers if we continue this revolving door policy.


2.) 29 Dec 2017 18:43:56
2 tone your bang on regarding players playing to strengths.Joe Worrall is a good example.When he keeps it simple he looks class but sometimes I feel he takes risks with the ball when it's just not necessary and seems out of character.I do have to give MW credit for giving some of these young men a chance.Past managers have been guilty of having a closed door policy on young players development.


3.) 29 Dec 2017 19:18:51
Ldn red - he’ll never have a full squad capable of playing the way he wants, that’s a completely different level to where we are and would cost millions!! If he isn’t careful he will ruin some of our ‘better’ players as they will forget what they are actually good at. I want to back him and give him a few years but I do want to see steady signs of improvement


4.) 29 Dec 2017 19:56:43
I’m not saying you’re wrong - but what I will point to is that in past/current seasons, teams which play a very similar style to us have competed at the top end or been promoted without spending millions.

Teams like: Sheffield United, Reading, Fulham, Bournemouth, Watford and Swansea.

MW won’t be looking to try and spend millions, he’ll be selecting players which fit his style.


5.) 29 Dec 2017 21:51:21
Bang on 2tone. Best post on here for ages


6.) 29 Dec 2017 21:53:35
Another season... You really think so?
Please lnd red enlighten us to why you think he should be given another season?
You state you want to sit down all of whom disagree with the way of the breadman... Again please enlighten us? Myself like many feel exactly like 2tone.

The inability to address many shortcomings is not how structure is built.
Structure comes from the chairman down to the staff who steward each week.
There seems to be a piece missing where Warburton is concerned his way of tactics, leaving players out in the cold and playing out position isn't a structured formula.
Yes structure takes time I agree but how much time is required.... 2,3,4 seasons?
So lnd red please with your infinite wisdom and inside knowledge tell us why Mr. Warburton is the messiah?


7.) 29 Dec 2017 23:11:04
I’m not one for enlightenment, I have an opinion, just like everyone here.

There’s certainly negatives with some of MW’s decisions, not all I’ve agreed with. But why kick us when we’re down though? Why get rid of the manager so quickly and start from scratch - AGAIN.

I feel it boils down to this. We have a young squad incapable of playing MW’s tactics on a regular basis and some fan favourites not getting as much game time as people would like. I’d be the first to say that we should’ve signed a CB and a GK in the summer, I’d like to think we tried (Hector & Federici) at least! The defence is certainly our weak point and it’s of course a shortcoming thay it wasn’t fixed back then.

The team he has now isn’t even his yet. There’s plenty of players in there which don’t suit the way Warburton wants to play which I think is largely why some players are being played out of position or not at all (Vellios). I personally feel we need to trust in a philosophy/manager and buy players which are suited to that style. It’s the only way we can make a real success of this - not by bringing in someone new and having them reshape the squad their way.

If we’ve learnt anything over the past few years, it’s that changing manager takes us at least 8months to reset. It’s been the thing which has largely held us back in recent years.

What we have now (I think), is a manager who wants to promote from within, has a clear idea of how he wants us to play and is willing to build a squad capable of doing that in his style. It doesn’t just happen in 1 window (incredibly rarely!).

Worth noting quickly - if we lose MW, we also lose our DoF, Frank McParland. Not something I’d want to do in a hurry.

Warburton aside for a minute - and remembering last season, where do people feel would be an acceptable place for us to finish based on our squad. Top half would be a lot of progress in my book.

If we can manage our expectations and take the lows with the highs, I think we’ll all be better for it.


8.) 30 Dec 2017 09:38:31
LDN Red

I agree with what you are trying to get across, but i feel 2 things are getting on most people's nerves are, we let the opposition score too easily, and there has been little sign of it being sorted, and inspite all of our possession, and odd patches of really good football the opposition mostly out play us.

It is a slow process, and we should try to be more positive, and hope for the best, but with each loss it gets harder.


9.) 30 Dec 2017 10:25:00
With you there 100%. Who here could say watching us lose is much fun?! I was at the Wednesday game and felt for much of the match we were actually miles better than them. 3 one on ones and a strong penalty shout - we were unfortunate not to go in 3-1 up at half time.

I digress.

The defence is a cause for concern and a large one at that. Most attacking possession based sides do leave themselves open at the back. We do need to be more solid but I’d wager that this is a personnel issue more than anything else.

Look at Huddersfield’s style of play (Champ and Prem), they look to out score you rather than play bland, slow football where you’d be lucky to see us score a goal. Progress is slow but my god, weren’t we a lot worse before?

The statement from the new owners and in particular the new chairman stated they wanted stability. This comes from trust and again, managing our own expectations.


 

 

14 Jan 2017 18:51:19
25 million for a club like ours which is running at a loss, has no real assets and no structure still seems an awful lot of money. Fawaz thinks it's worth double that? Whose mad? Is it fawaz, is it the yanks for spending so much time and effort on a gamble that the selller might just crumble and give it away at the last minute or is it the fans who think the club is something that any sane businessman would buy at 50 mill? I'd suggest it's all three of the above?

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1.) 14 Jan 2017 19:03:50
It's a gamble but run the club right and we could be worth a hell of a lot more. just think with fawaz gone we will have the 10k back that are staying away whilst he's in charge bringing more money in. get Nigel clough or rowatt in and we will never lose another game and be promoted first season which again brings even more money in! simple


2.) 14 Jan 2017 19:25:28
Lets take it on dragons den see if peter jones will invest


3.) 14 Jan 2017 19:41:00
Nffc is a brand, and as one of only 5 English clubs to be. European champions, then yes, worth 50 mill. Famous throughout the world, and that, you can't buy. Well you can, but you know what I mean!


4.) 14 Jan 2017 19:42:28
what crystal ball you been using?


5.) 14 Jan 2017 22:31:49
None of the championship clubs make money unless they have parachute payments. The difference is a prem team costs 150M and a champ team can get brought for sub 30M. Get it right. get paid.

Our attraction is we have history and fan base. but no ground. We are in this melee every year until we either go up or down. Same as 16 of the other teams. Championship teams lose money. They operate on negative equity. Like it or not Fawaz has helped us exist. JJM would have just been the next one to spin us for another 5 years.


 

 

27 Aug 2013 01:06:47
ive been told Rhodes is going Wigan on the final day of the window? Info from a big scouse fan with good links around the nw

2tone

1.) No you just read the rumour yesterday. Wigan may however have the cash to buy him after the sale of young midfielder James McCarthy.


2.) Forest rumours

{Ed034's Note - this is a forest rumour as fans on here have been talking about him. If any fan doesn't like the rumour being posted, ignore it and move on to the next


3.) If i'd seen that rumour yesterday why would I just post it again? As I said in the op I was told this by a lpool fan who has good links around the north west.


4.) And its the same Liverpool fan who told me that I wouldn't be able to understand carragher on tv! So he us 100% correct with his info so far this season :-)

{Ed034's Note - he is awful


5.) Not according to Blackburn MD who says they will not sell to Wigan. Its going to be an interesting week to see who we get and who goes. If we could sell a few Rhodes could be affordable with the financial rules.


6.) He has a terrible tv voice which seems to get higher and higher the more animated he gets! Knows his stuff though and says it how it is

Keeno


7.) Wigan have signed Grant Holt - why would they need another?


 

 

 

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06 Dec 2019 21:48:08
Does Mir get an assist for helping us to a draw?

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06 Dec 2019 19:11:44
Mir to step up tonight and get us the win - come on you reds!

2tone

1.) 06 Dec 2019 19:16:10
Got to say I'm liking his bravery hope it pays off. In fact I know it will still going for 4mil.


2.) 06 Dec 2019 19:20:57
Looking forward to the game but mir being up front fills me with a bad feeling.


3.) 06 Dec 2019 19:27:30
We need a manager that has a plan b so let's just see we might all be surprised by mir we can't always rely on grabbon 4 nil.


4.) 06 Dec 2019 19:29:04
Grabbon will be on after an hour and cause havoc.


5.) 06 Dec 2019 20:38:10
At the moment doesn’t matter whether it’s mir or ronaldo up front we ain’t getting that far forward, it’s like Wigan all over again probably worse, pretty much self inflicted as well.


 

 

27 Nov 2019 22:19:15
Ok that's an ok ish away win but what really disappoints me is picking up a couple of yellow cards! we should be aiming to win these games by at least five goals, keeping clean sheets and not picking up any bookings!
Always room for improvement 🤣.

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1.) 27 Nov 2019 23:05:54
I’d also expect a lot more from Carvalho 😜 but on a serious note I’m loving the fact that we look like a team that’s together an all for 1.


2.) 28 Nov 2019 08:48:00
To be fair, Cash never touched the lad that tried desperately to get him sent off. And the Bostock booking was as harsh as they come.

Thought the Ref did ok though, especially after the red card (which I think was correct) because QPR tried to get things evened up by play acting and rolling around.

There 'keeper though? Christ. He should be flapping about on Hackney marshes, not Loftus Road.


3.) 28 Nov 2019 19:56:56
Warburton said both of Cash's feet were up when complaining.


 

 

25 Aug 2019 00:37:13
I know we've tried this a few times before but who fancies a pint before the direby game? I'm landing about half six?

2tone

1.) 25 Aug 2019 08:54:49
I would be there like a shot 2tone but as ever working mate I hope you get to meet up with a few of the lads off here have a couple of Stella's for me👍🍻🍻.


 

 

10 Aug 2019 08:42:40
Keep smiling - £5 at 35-1 on forest winning two nil. Ok I guess I'm just giving some cash to the Irish man whose got all the power but you can't beat the buzz of match day whatever's going on 'off the pitch'
Happy days 👍⚽️.

2tone

1.) 10 Aug 2019 09:18:03
Did you see our keeper last week? and you mention 2-0 scoreline. lol.


2.) 10 Aug 2019 10:20:19
Bye bye mon - don’t look back in anger mate
It’s match day-beer, banter and a sing song - who cares what the score is 🤣 after a few beers it’s all good 👍.


3.) 10 Aug 2019 11:57:29
Thats the spirit Tone, you'll have a blinder if it is 2-0.


 

 

 

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04 Dec 2019 12:49:50
Common sense? 🤣 it was all about our manager being looked at by Watford - what has that got to do with Leeds and Watford? i'm sure everyone agree with the essence of the post ie. history, crowds, ground Big club/ little club etc. but still can’t see why dirty Leeds got a mention - surely the forest / watford differences are clear to see for anyone 🤷🏻‍♂️ Anyway can we just ban the ‘ dirty Leeds’words from the forum and put this to bed 👍.

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04 Dec 2019 08:08:12
🎈Gayles linked to forest - why on earth would he leave Newcastle to sign for Leeds 🤪.

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04 Dec 2019 00:20:16
Is the Leeds manager linked with the Watford job then? 🤷🏻‍♂️ I get it now, thank goodness our manager isn’t linked to that job-he wouldn’t be able to turn it down, it would be a huge opportunity to manage a massive club 🤣 oops that balloons popped 🎈📌.

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03 Dec 2019 19:23:05
Not sure what you have you been filling your balloons with red? Thanks for the explanation but I still don’t get it 🤷🏻‍♂️.

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03 Dec 2019 16:32:20
Sorry but where did Leeds come into it?

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08 Dec 2019 13:11:35
Best wishes FF - keep your chin up.

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06 Dec 2019 16:12:22
WTW don’t even baste your time talking about him 🤣.

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04 Dec 2019 19:38:26
The good ol days gazz 🤣 the owner even gave us a burger when we left him about three hours later 😱too scared to move and we helped him pack up.

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04 Dec 2019 10:33:47
Skeggy it certainly used to be one of the worst places to visit but even now they still creep out for big occasions or when fans travel in large numbers. When I was about 14? I can remember hiding in a hotdog van from what seemed like 100’s of them chasing us (probably was actually about 10 though 🤣 Or maybe 5, it could have really just been one big un’ or someone who was loud)

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04 Dec 2019 08:19:10
Realistically There’s no way the owner can stop it, it is becoming a bit more brazen now though.

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