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05 Sep 2018 13:30:34
I know AK is under a lot of criticism right now, for results, style of play and team selection. If he only has a handful of games left to turn this around, if he gets sacked, there is every chance a new manager will follow the same tactics. If we look at our last three managers, they have all tried to play out from the back, have 5 in midfield with one uptop, and have all played players out of position. It would seem if you want a 442 system, you are looking at old school managers like Warnock or big Sam. My point therefore is if AK goes, there is every chance we will be served up the same offerings. Personally I am undecided as to what the issue is. Is it the formation, or is our squad just not as good as we think it is?

Murdoch

1.) 05 Sep 2018 14:20:55
The issue is that the boss is not picking the players based on form.

Cash is on fire and gets dropped. Every time Osbourne is not in the team we look useless. The boss drops Osbourne. Murphy is scoring goals and the boss picked an off form Grabban (until he got a knock.)

Bridcutt came into the side and played really well? Watson plays two bad games and is obviously off-form. The managers response was to drop Bridcutt and play the off-form player.

These decisions are idiotic. Not good enough. If you don't play a player when they are on form in place of an off-form player there are two consequences. The team is likely to lose. The players are demotivated because they don't even get a game when they are obviously playing better than other.

If the manager carries on with this selection policy then he is a muppet!


2.) 05 Sep 2018 14:57:50
The Watson one is a simple answer, Watson is his captain. Grabban getting games is political because he’s spent £6m on him. I think people just need to get perspective on the whole situation.

Formations follow a meta game x formation beats y formation but y formation beats z formation which beats formation x. 4-4-2 is an old school formation, it’s balanced and allows for partnerships. 4-2-3-1 is a defensive formation aimed at breaking up play and counter attacking. My personal favourite is Liverpool’s 4-3-3 which relies on wing backs and 2 central midfielders providing width with the 2 inside forwards playing as wide strikers stretching the channels and a false nine occupying the pocket of space. I think we should adopt this formation personally but we don’t have the players to do it.


3.) 05 Sep 2018 15:10:33
Get rid of ak and bring big sam in that simples😆


4.) 05 Sep 2018 15:21:36
Well said Floresta , I would personally go y to the power of x ( x + y ) - y ( x - y ) I think that should sort it out


5.) 05 Sep 2018 15:23:04
My perspective is that it is the manager's job to pick the best team to get us promoted. If he can't do that then he is a plonker and will wind up getting the sack.


6.) 05 Sep 2018 15:24:09
And it isn't formations that win games. Players do. Work out who your best players are and find a system that allows them to play to their strengths. That is what a good manager will do.


7.) 05 Sep 2018 15:29:41
Fliresta totally agree,wether you like Liverpool or not they are a joy to watch and a succesfull formula.
Karankas could learn off klopp that you can play attractive football and succeed.


8.) 05 Sep 2018 17:32:10
Liverpool do play nice football in that formation but MR.Karanka(correct name used as I do not wish to offend) plays from the back and side to side.
As a lot of you have said the next 4 games are his chance to turn things around or he will be gone.
Surely he isn't oblivious to what's happening?
If fans can see things surely MR.Karanka can also.


9.) 05 Sep 2018 17:57:36
Floresta So let me get it right, because the manager has made Watson captain, spent £6m on Grabban Aitor plays them when fit.?

I thought being a manager was about picking his best 11, and players in form to bring success to a club, not keep picking players because they are his mates or he does not want to lose face.

Not many of us like Aitor's 4231 formation but Aitor favours that formation, because he is a do not lose and not a go for the win type manager.

Like someone else has said play to your players strengths, or bring in players you know their strengths suit your formation, sadly Aitor has done neither.


10.) 05 Sep 2018 19:04:27
As everyone is repeating themselves I'll have a go. Maybe he is playing the same style and using the same tactics from experience that achieved a playoff final and following season 2nd place.Im not saying he's right or wrong but if you were in his shoes and achieved success doing things a certain way would you not carry on with that theory?


11.) 05 Sep 2018 19:32:40
Interesting debate on formations and the one up front issue.

The regular 4-4-2 merchants Sheff Wed QPR Brum Bristol Millwall Reading are not exactly setting the league alive and free scoring.

Only Direby and Brentford regularly set up with 4-3-3

The free scoring teams WBA and Sheff Utd both play 3-4-1-2 or Leeds 4-1-4-1

The rest are usually playing 4-2-3-1 or 4-4-1-1

We now have the personnel to match up WBA, Sheff Utd or Leeds. AK has the nouse to tweak his line up especially at home to play a more expansive game higher up the pitch.

Let the games begin!


12.) 05 Sep 2018 20:06:12
You could be on to something there red so what your saying his karankas formation is the right one and all the good teams are playing this formation 🤔except we aren't one of the good teams playing this formation because we can't play that way with some of the players he keeps choosing so we might as well play 4 4 2 because this bloke hasn't got a clue what he's doing lol next please taxi for kranky😆


13.) 05 Sep 2018 21:43:03
Quick call dg taxis


14.) 05 Sep 2018 21:58:08
Skegsjay

I'm just putting a few facts out there. How you conclude "what I'm saying" is beyond me but then again I have you down as a 4-4-2 merchant?

The facts suggest we would be better playing with either 3 at the back now we have 3 strong quality centre backs or now we have signed a strong deep lying playmaker we can play one holding midfielder and 4 further up the park closer to the centre forward.

AK has more of a clue than you give him credit for and will tweak his system and selections in the coming weeks. He changed it at Boro so what makes you think he will not do it with his new squad?


15.) 05 Sep 2018 23:47:36
If the facts suggest we would be better playing 3 at the back ?
Which I agree with, then why haven't we seen it in 29 games so far?
You say he's flexible?
Looks as flexible as concrete when it comes to tactics.
His tactics are set in stone and very predictable.
I admire your loyalty to karanka red and hope you prove me wrong and he is succesfull and I'll be the first to pay homage, but alas my friend that's very unlikely to happen.


16.) 06 Sep 2018 01:50:35
the biggest problem is we have too many players


 

 

23 May 2018 21:03:54
I seem to remember when we were in the middle of our financial difficulties, Mel Morris took delight in pretending to have interest in a couple of our players. I would find it rather amusing now if we were to slip a cheeky bid in for any of their better players! I'm sure Mel would appreciate the gesture!

Murdoch

1.) 24 May 2018 03:20:46
It would be funny Murdoch.Theres probably only Lawrence I'd be interested in to be fair.


2.) 24 May 2018 09:17:15
Not vydra?


3.) 24 May 2018 09:57:51
He's probably off to Stoke but yes he'd be worth a go.


 

 

13 Apr 2018 13:59:03
It has been an interesting week reading everyone's opinions on our current and past Managers. I do have a question for you all, and would be interested to see the responses. From our current starting 11, how many, if any would walk straight into one of the teams currently in the top 6? I would say none, and it kind of highlights the gap of where we are now, and where we want to be.

Murdoch

1.) 13 Apr 2018 14:09:15
Think your right there murdoch,but then if you were to look at Millwall team man for man,then it could be argued we have better individuals than them?
It's not necessarily the best players that make a good team it's how they gel and how confident they are in there own ability and confidence in their teammates and the ability of the manager to get the best best out of each player.


2.) 13 Apr 2018 15:01:29
Agreed FF.
Afraid I agree with you too Murdoch. A couple might make squad players. Toby and possibly Lolly.


3.) 13 Apr 2018 15:27:43
Maybe Pants ? !


4.) 13 Apr 2018 20:18:38
Yes the manager is the key, what a job Harris has done . Despite an embarrassing quantity of attempts we can’t get it right can we?


5.) 13 Apr 2018 20:49:10
Thing is 2 star if you look at the table at the start of January they were a place below us.
Just shows what a great job Harris has done


6.) 13 Apr 2018 21:06:25
I'd say Watson plenty of experience and there is always room for a solid defensive midfielder


7.) 13 Apr 2018 22:04:55
Interesting that so few names offered up here. Reality is a high mid table finish next season would be improvement! I agree with the Millwall comment. Team spirit, and playing for each other makes a big difference. The other issue for us is we haven't had a decent spine of a team to build around for years.


8.) 13 Apr 2018 23:03:59
Reality for us is one thing the owners will want more than that I'm afraid.
You can see that in the signings,it's old pros with no thought for the future.
Personally I'd rather watch us build something and do well for a couple of seasons and get there with a sound base to keep us there.
No point getting there to get stuffed week in and out


9.) 13 Apr 2018 23:11:52
Millwall captain Morrison was on the radio the other night. His main reasons for success this season if I remember right was team spirit,their style of play,being a new team to the league,other teams not knowing much about them and low wages stating some championship players are on astronomical amounts compared to them.


 

 

08 Jan 2018 13:35:20
Well, I enjoyed going to work this morning, and not getting the knowing looks about not mentioning the football, or having people commiserating with you. This result has really put us on the map again, and people talking about how well we played and what a result it was! I was a proud Forest fan this morning, and hopefully this could be a turning point I our fortunes!

Murdoch

1.) 08 Jan 2018 16:22:57
Same here mate. I walked in this morning. arms aloft!!! Boy it felt good!!! Hopefully I can do that a few more times this season FTID!!!


 

 

16 Oct 2017 13:47:09
One thing I really don't get is why are we conceding so many early goals? Are the players really not switched on from the start of the game? Is it a protest from the players about MW's tactics, so concede a soft goal to give him the message? You would have thought, or hoped MW would have them fired up comming straight from the dressing room? I'd also like to know why MW rates Walker more than Vellios? Walker is one player I'd be happy to see MW convert to a winger, as he may have more success than being a centre forward.

Murdoch

1.) 16 Oct 2017 14:44:56
What about Brereton as well. His progress at Forest has gone backwards.Played out of position or not at all.
Zac Clough, 3.5 million, scored for fun at Bolton and think most fans excited about him signing. Gone backwards. Joe Worrall, like Brereton breaks into first team,awesome. Now gone backwards.Why?


2.) 16 Oct 2017 17:23:09
Brereton been very disappointing this season not seen much of Zach but I was excited at his signing and velios should now be given a chance up front because were missing a poacher I just hope things get better.


3.) 16 Oct 2017 19:02:32
Velios is a much better player than the strikeforce we put out. Butvits warburtons way or no way!!!!


 

 

 

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24 Aug 2018 13:30:09
The thing is guys I could understand you saying this if we were in QPR's position, but as things stand we are 4 points off the top, and have played some good teams! There are valid points with performance's and defence, which hopefully will only get better. I don't think we should be dropping the new signings, as they are better than what we had. With the old guard in, those battling draws we got, would probably have been defeats last season. If we beat Birmingham on Saturday, we will be well up in the mix! COYR

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18 Jul 2018 13:49:35
Lam was more of an attacking threat than defensive. He also had a decent shot on him. He may have a future as a midfield player. Skeg needs to take him on a night out or two so he can bulk up a bit on the amber gold!

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05 Jul 2018 13:18:25
To add to this, AK said in an interview that he told a group of players they were not in his plans for next season, so were free to move on. This group is now training separately from the first team, as no effort to move was made. So, as someone said above, these guys look likely to sit out their contracts unless an offer comes in. Players in that group were Ward, Cummings, Velios, etc.

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28 Jun 2018 22:06:05
Sorry lads, but I have to disagree with you all here. Abdoun, djebour and Lars all looked poor on youtube, and indeed they were not good enough. Some of you have put Soudani on a pedestal, but in my opinion he's the same standard as Cummings. Some of his goals are just comical with defenders just stood watching him walk past, and poor goal keeping. That's not going to happen in the Championship! I'm not slating him, and would love it if he did tear up the league. All I'm saying expectation level is way over for him.

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28 Jun 2018 13:22:10
I hate to say this, but I watched a couple of his youtube clips last night, and wasn't that impressed. He may have scored a lot of goals, but when you look at the standard of what he was playing against, it was very very poor. He won't get the time and space to play like he does in the championship. I hope I'm wrong, but I think he will struggle at this level.

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30 Aug 2018 13:49:42
The thing is skeg, Brentford are a very good side, playing a good brand of football, so would it be a shocker if we were to lose to them? I don't think so. You moan about these so called happy clappers, and just because we spent a bit of money on new players we should smashing the likes of Brentford. Reality is a draw with Brentford would be a good result, a win would be a terrific result. The Birmingham game was a poor performance, but we didn't lose. The championship is all about building momentum, and last nights performance shows what we can do.

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24 Aug 2018 13:37:48
You say that Skeg, but didn't we try to sign him in the January window, which may indicate he was a target identified prior to AK coming in?

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22 Aug 2018 13:41:10
This is the point I was making yesterday red. Some fans seem to be under the impression we'd be smashing teams 4-0 each week, and now be sat at the top of the table! Our squad was pretty poor before the summer recruitment, it now has a better calibre of player. The key phrase was we are having a go at promotion, not guarantee we'd get it. 4 points off the top is not bad, and staying in the mix will no doubt please most fans.

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21 Aug 2018 15:10:09
Being truthful, what we are seeing now is a result of years of mismanagement on and off the field. We now have an owner who is creating an infrastructure to take the club forward. He has also backed the manager very well, and that unfortunately has sent expectation levels through the roof. The reality is the signings we have made are all good, but are only the first few building blocks.

Our squad has simply not had the quality required to mount any challenge, which is still the case now. A frequent comment on here is look how strong our bench is? When I look it's the likes of Watson, Murphy etc. It's not strong, no match winners or exciting play makers waiting to come on. Getting a top 10 finish would be good, anything higher is a bonus. Personally I think it will take another couple of transfers windows to get a squad good enough to be a top 6 team. These are frustrating times, as we have waited too long for any success.

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20 Aug 2018 13:32:52
I would be surprised if we are entertaining selling BB given how light we are in the striker department. It would be a big risk for AK, especially if his target is a top 6 finish. It doesn't make sense to sell the type of player that could get you there.

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