Nottingham Forest banter 3

10 Jan 2026 11:58:05
As I’m losing the will to live reading some of the hysterical comments on here from last nights game, I will restrict myself to the following observations.

Firstly, if you read my pre match posts I anticipated a difficult night. Wrexham are a well run club ( unlike ours) one point of the playoffs with good investment. I see them as solid playoff contenders at the very least.

Secondly, again I ask, were you not entertained? A cracking match, end to end, with some brilliant goals and excitement.

Thirdly, we lost the first half 2 nil and won the second ( with more of our first team squad on the pitch) 3 one. We lost the penalty lottery, their goalkeeper was brilliant throughout the game, as were the Wrexham team as a whole. Good luck to them.

Fourthly, SD will have learnt a lot about his squad last night. None of those players are his choice and as for selection, following a busy Christmas schedule, this was our second game in 3 days ( with travelling time from East London to North Wales). SD has been in charge for less than 3 months. Contrary to rather tedious, repetitive and dim mantras on here of “SD out” and variations thereof, I think no manager should be dismissed without being allowed to shape his squad through at least 2 transfer windows and a pre season. Especially with his record so far in trying to steady the ship after the baleful effects of Nunos disaffection, Postacoglaus disaster, Edu’s recruitment and Marinkinakos negative interference ( though we all, of course, admire his investment and ambition).

10 Jan 2026 12:12:31
He won't be getting his own players stokey as he's toast at the end of the season, its as simple as that.

10 Jan 2026 12:20:37
A well reasoned post which I largely agree with. Those shouting "out" all the time are tedious and predictable. With Aina and possibly Yates and Sangare back we can win Five more games and pull off some draws. All reasons for optimism.


Dominguez is getting better and Jesus is working hard with little reward. Hutchinson will improve he's still young. Let's concentrate on supporting the lads however we can. Moaning about their mistakes, Edu and Dyche gets nowhere fast.

10 Jan 2026 12:29:27
You’ll restrict yourself but you’ll still have a pop at those who see something different to you. I’m sure your paragraphs contain some valid intelligent remarks but I’m too hysterical to read them and they’re written by an ostrich - so I can’t be bothered.

Dyche is the worst manager since Megson.

10 Jan 2026 12:48:14
How would we know if any of the starting 11 can play? Lump it and hope to 5 players with an average height of 5'5. Dyche is to blame for last nights result, he was only bailed out by CHO actually turning up for once.

We were poor and made to look even worse by a guy with the tactical intelligence of a brussel sprout. Noticed how well Kalimuendo did on his debut for Frankfurt. ?.

10 Jan 2026 13:07:43
Stokey I agree. There are some in this web site that forget last years FAcup early rounds and a penalty shoot out against Exeter! Also a Swansea defeat this season ( Nuno ).
I watched the whole match and yes was entertained. My own view is that McAtee played as well as a recent Anderson , he is only 21. He will come good in the fullness of time. Poor Morato tried to protect Cunha and slipped up in his own role.
All the goals scored were well taken for both sides. Jesus goal was a great header and OD third was a worthy goal of the season. This was always going to be a tricky away match. No way was this result SDs fault as a manager.

This was a second string expensive side which all of us if we are honest would have started with giving them a chance to shine. SD was right to criticize them. The TNT commentators said exactly the same thing at half time.
We will see similar casualties from the premiership today. As with us it allows the manager to try different players in a pressure match. To lesser teams such as Wrexham a chance to progress and they deserved to
To survive this season is our aim maybe do well in Europe for the first time in a while
We will not be relegated I am confident. SD should then be given a decent contract.

10 Jan 2026 13:13:36
Stop on stars, if you don't agree with them there's something wrong you, which in fact works both ways. We maybe hysterical but at least we are not delusional. Dyche is an outdated cretaceous cretin. ?.

10 Jan 2026 13:19:54
"The untun'd and jarring senses, O, when we are out of tune, we lie. " ??.

10 Jan 2026 13:25:16
I'm a bit busy at the moment, and although this delusional defending of the indefensible is barely worth a reply, I'm sick of letting this nonsense slide. I'll be replying in more detail later.

Don't be fooled fellow trickies, just because someone can spell and has the spare time to write an essay where a few words will do, it does not mean what they write is based on football nous or tactical insight. Stokey's post may be opinion, but it's a wrong one. Plain and simple.

Dych is a bottom half manager, with outdated tactics not fit for modern football. The sooner he gets the fook out of my club, the better.

Sack Gingersaurus please, Marinakis!

10 Jan 2026 13:41:18
DTP …. So you keep saying…. ???

Gold stars I’m not having a pop at anyone. It’s just a mind numbingly dull mantra of largely unsupported statements. I can only imagine you were watching a different game to me. It was a great game with very little “lumping “ it up and lots of end to end action. As for “ Dyche is to blame” which of the players out there is he responsible for signing? Who else could he play up top who’s taller than 5’5”? Is it his fault Woody and Yates ( that would have been his kind of game) are injured and Taiwo finished?
By the way one of our midgets managed to score with a far post header……
Answers on a post card please…….

10 Jan 2026 14:06:31
Nononuno, the Swansea cup defeat was Angeball not Nuno.

10 Jan 2026 14:27:16
If over the course of 5 games you cross 500 times eventually even you Stokey would get on the end of one. Yes we don't have woody so how about actually doing his job and use a more tactically intelligent approach to the game. One dimensional lump, hoof and "have it" football belongs on a Sunday league pitch and to be fair that's insulting players at that level.
For a so called intelligent, educated and logical man you are sounding more deluded with each defence of the cretaceous crustacean.


I actually thought King Lear saying "the untun'd and jarring senses, O' th' deaf world. " suited the state of delusion coming from some here, for those who don't know King Lear lost his marbles and was self aware of his loss of those said marbles. ?.

10 Jan 2026 15:07:44
Redfred nononuno is another fan that wanted better manager look what they've ended up with ?????.

10 Jan 2026 16:49:31
Skeggs no forest fan wanted nuno to go, he wanted to go and made statements that made his position untenable, just the same as maresca and Amorin.

10 Jan 2026 16:54:36
nononononodoucheball. ?.

10 Jan 2026 19:04:41
Oddly enough Red Robin King Lear was the first Shakespeare play I ever saw performed live at Nottingham Playhouse on a School trip when I was 14 or 15, From then on I was hooked.
I was boring Lego with the storm scene quote the other night when he was telling me about Lieutenant Dan’s speech from Forest Gump….
“Blow winds and crack your cheeks etc”….

10 Jan 2026 10:29:02
Watching Forest reminds me of playing Football in the 80’s. Diplodychus Is like one of those Dad’s come coaches with this one dimensional insistence the ball must end up with a winger who generally can’t shoot, can’t cross, can’t beat a man.

10 Jan 2026 11:45:49
While I've no dislikes for Nuno and dyche, there's one thing that we should consider when it comes to Nuno, he worked with and is a close friend with José mourinho who in his own right is an excellent coach who has won pretty much every going.

He also has amassed a small fortune from getting the sack! Looks to me Nuno is following in his mentor's foot steps.

10 Jan 2026 10:04:05
Weirdly enough Kalimuendo was making his debut last night in a 3-3 draw. Got himself 2 assists and looked dangerous. We'll never know if he would have been any good for us as Dyche hardly gave him a chance. What a waste when he could have started last night for us, but i guess he doesn't suit lump it high and long outdated cretaceous ball. ?.

10 Jan 2026 13:30:44
One thing I did notice and was very obvious: when we played it to feet we increased our tempo and we looked decent.

10 Jan 2026 09:50:34
Ok. Now I’ve got more of a calm head, let’s analyse the game.
Some blatantly obvious things stood out a mile last night:

Zinchenko is nowhere near premier league quality. What we were talked into taking him on loan for is beyond me. There’s a reason he was not getting game time at Arsenal: he’s awful.

McAtee is perhaps one of the worst signings for the money we’ve ever made. Plays like he’s new to the game, and with two left feet. Again, there’s a reason he was not in Man City’s plans: they had our pants down with selling him to us.

Morato. Ah, Morato. Good old Morato. Quite possibly our worst defender. No positional awareness. No footballing brain. Too slow. Too much of a liability. Two goals were more or less his responsibility, and he still did his best to gift them another. Shouldn’t be near this squad.

Bakwa. I’m still convinced there is a player in ther somewhere…but…his positional awareness is woeful. He was all over the pitch last night and didn’t seem to know where his best spot was. Too sloppy. Too slow to understand what was happening or read the game. Unless things really improve, he’s not for us.

Ndoye. I cannot understand this one as he ‘seemed’ ok when he first came to us and had a good reputation. However, on recent showings, he’s not good enough.

Savona is another who’s positional awareness is off. Leaves massive holes on the pitch and gets dragged out of his zone endless times. Too clumsy too. When he’s on it he seems OK, but his other attributes let him down.

All of the above can be let go for all I care. Unfortunately, as they’ve not shown anything in the ‘shop window’, we won’t get anywhere near the amount for selling them that we paid. And that’s if any team would he interested in the first place, which I highly doubt.

I think Dyche was VERY naïve last night to start with the players he did. I said to a friend yesterday morning that Dyche had better not play a ‘B’ team and that he better have some of the senior players ready to haul ass, as Wrexham are nobody’s fool. When I saw the starting 11 I KNEW it was going to be problematic. Problematic, that’s a massive understatement having seen the game: it was a monumental stuff up. It was like Dyche and gang hadn’t even bothered to do any homework on how passionate and capable Wrexham were.

Sadly in the end, our poor start, our team selection, and poor players on the pitch, got us exactly what we deserved: dumped out the cup.

10 Jan 2026 09:10:24
Now that all the knee jerk hysteria has calmed down about sacking Dyche look at the facts

He knows that Premier League survival is the number one priority also he knows that after the Arsenal game we have 2 important Euro cup games to play. so he made 8 changes to the side after a battle against West Ham

Bakwa Savona Morato Ndoye and McAtee were 5 of these who cost 120m between them who are Edu players and simply aren’t good enough to wear the shirt!

Cunha and Hutchinson played well imo

Morato is a pub player and the other 4 are lightweights

Why blame Dyche for trying to give Anderson Murrilo Milenkovic Gibbs White Hudson Odoi
Williams etc a break as the team he picked against Wrexham should have been good enough to beat Wrexham

Hudson Odoi looked like a natural number 9 the way he took his goals

Onwards and upwards Arsenal next and I think if we play our strongest side we will get a point

My team to play Arsenal

Sels.

Aina
Milenkovic
Murrilo
Williams

Dominguez
Anderson
Luis

MGW

Hudson Odoi
Jesus

4-3-1-2.

10 Jan 2026 09:30:47
It doesn’t bother me at all that we lost to Wrexham. Out of the FA Cup means less matches so we can concentrate on staying up. Let’s try for a point now V Arsenal.

10 Jan 2026 09:40:32
I agree, HO took his goals very well, but he found the space and had the time. Playing as a number 9 is totally different, leading the line whilst being shadowed by 2 bruising defenders.

Not sure he has the build / strength / speed for the No 9 role.

Jesus is just getting battered, but the balls to him are not the easiest to control and subsequently making him look poorer than he is.

Still the number of aimless crosses is a worry, very few lead to an effort on goal. Sels had a nightmare, in play and the pens.

10 Jan 2026 09:51:59
It's his hoofball tactics that's the problem, MUNMAD, not his team selection.

10 Jan 2026 10:04:15
Hutchinson was terrible as was luiz.

10 Jan 2026 10:08:27
Not blaming Dyche for rotating, i'm blaming his style, tactical approach and the fact he can't get a tune out of the players. Last night was embarrassing, if it wasn't for CHO it would have even worse. Look how much our starting line-up was worth, especially going forward, then look at the opposition. Anyone how is honestly happy with that needs their head testing. ?.

10 Jan 2026 10:22:15
As always I agree and disagree (that’s why I always enjoy your posts mate )

The fact we replaced 5 first choice players with 120m + of players yet still got
Outclassed
Outfought
Out thought
By a championship side is both absurd and terrifying.
I still maintain a big factor in this is dyche. Even with good players on the pitch the play is too predictable and one dimensional, always looking for the Chanels and an often worthless / fruitless outcome. At the moment I cannot stand Hutchinson, he can’t beat a man, he can’t do anything - infacr he seems brain dead.

10 Jan 2026 10:25:54
Munmad that will be the team more or less, but CHO will play as a winger and Hutchinson will with no luiz
We will sit deep and punt missiles up to jesus and it will not end well
Sorry but dyche has no other tactics in his locker.

10 Jan 2026 10:29:33
Sangare instead of Luis if back from AFCON.

10 Jan 2026 10:33:12
Very good post MUNMAD.

10 Jan 2026 11:45:22
Well that's 2 of us agree on useless Hutchinson then.

10 Jan 2026 07:39:26
{Ed's Note - BRD has posted a new article entitled, Still Reeling From Amorim's Exit at Manchester United

10 Jan 2026 06:28:43
Well done wrexham. they definitely deserved the win. anyway has laurel and Hardy been sacked yet.

10 Jan 2026 09:42:38
Skegs - Got to agree - was a painful watch.

However, start of second half looked positive, and even then they went 3-1 up.

OBrien played well when he came on, he could have been useful for us I am sure.

10 Jan 2026 04:57:14
No embarrassment losing to a team who wanted it more, have good style, are well run and have a game plan.
We on the other hand have none of the above.
Apart with the introduction of Taiwo, anyone notice how we looked better with every substitution of pre Edu players for Edu players?
McAtee Morato Zinchenko Taiwo need new homes quickly, they aren’t even championship standard.


Edu out now.

10 Jan 2026 08:49:38
Console yourself with that all you want frog - it’s embarrassing. I agree with what else you have said.

10 Jan 2026 00:51:10
So pleased I have bad health, which prevents me from doing what I love. I was a goal keeper in the miner leagues, loved it, WITH NO PAY! Sadly, being paid thousands a week is no incentive to play football.

I shall be pleased to welcome the turf over my grave, so that my Forest support is laid to rest! Who the fook recruited these 3 legged players into the dressing room?
Rest in Peace the Forest Academy!

09 Jan 2026 23:05:51
Get on the phone to Newcastle
You can have Anderson, we want elanga and Murphy.

10 Jan 2026 00:59:35
Really.

Along with Murrilo, Anderson is our best player. Who has hardly had a break in 18 months. U21's and now full international.

Form is temporary. Class is permanent.

10 Jan 2026 01:25:38
It's stability we're after. Not players.

10 Jan 2026 04:08:03
There's no words, no plan and no formula to defend the rubbish we are having to endure week in week out this season. Scrape one win, lose four Dyche ball. Skegs warned us on day one due to his Arsenal fans family members what Edu would do to our club and he's bang on. 200 million down the gurgler. Marinakas puts his hand on his pocket, true, but he's a total nutter, Can't run a club.

Bournemouth and Brighton is how you run a club on limited ffp resources.
Cup semi finalists/ Euro qualifiers to relegation strugglers in one move because Big M didn't like Nuno's substitution. Last night wasn't a giant killing it was an expected result. The favourites won. How anyone can't see it and defend Dyche is behind belief. Enjoy the rest of your season lads cause we are going nowhere.

10 Jan 2026 07:27:16
Is this the same Brighton we smashed 7-0 mate?

10 Jan 2026 09:10:42
No. we had Nuno and not Dyche a raptor!

09 Jan 2026 22:43:06
So pleased we are out of the FA (no sky coverage) Cup, an institutional competition for football fans. It's ruined by TV rights, no live draw, limited normal TV! Then the so called elite teams play the reserves, so that players can be rested!
Concentrate on staying in the Premier League, and win the Europa Cup!

PS Mr Bean has made his intention of going for the Forest managers job!

10 Jan 2026 00:56:30
Totally agree with that one redtree, we might stay in the premier League now, we didn't need another cup run this season and the extra games it would bring. I wish some on this site would stop banging on about getting rid of dyche, ITS not his team! He hasn't brought in any of the players, his remit is to keep us up and at the end of the season he will gone.

he can only work with what he has END OF.

10 Jan 2026 01:07:08
PS dyche isn't a wizard with a magic wand!

10 Jan 2026 07:34:30
No he's not Red vale, he's a clown with big red nose.

10 Jan 2026 08:27:34
That probably only proves the point Rogie, last season was the only time we’ve come closer to stability, established structure across the club beginning to pay dividends until we decided to throw all that away. For what?

Brighton have survived in the prem and become established, they sell, they buy they never rarely get into any trouble. Whether you meant to or not, I reckon it only supports the folly that larry has highlighted in his post.

10 Jan 2026 08:52:20
This is the FA cup we all love the lower club defeating the Premier club accept it its a shame its us. The FA should be ashamed they sold out to TNT etc, that saying Forest have no excuse of too many games now so I EXPECT us to move up the league with out the domestic Cup holding us back.

Definitely need to off load Morato, Mcatee and Awonyi plus send Zinchenko back to arsenal play Abbott instead Luiz is off his game also. Use the transfer time to bring in a couple of loans including a Striker.

09 Jan 2026 22:33:59
Well done Wrexham, hats off to a great effort by them.

This is our net spend below (league position in brackets) in the 4 seasons since we got promoted. Think it puts us in top 6 in Prem over that time.

25/ 26: £-97.28m
24/ 25: £-15.58m (7th)
23/ 24: £-42.28m (17th)
22/ 23: £-167.48m (16th)

For sure we have signed some good players in that - MGW, CHO, Murillo, EA, Wood, some others - but so much has been wasted.

I know there are a lot of people who say ‘be careful for what you wish for’ as it can worse (Fawaz, Scholar, others we remember). But the simple fact is the club is not seemingly well run. We are also a club people now seem to almost laugh at.

Is it any surprise that many of the apparently worst run clubs, end up getting the weakest results? Wolves, West Ham, Us, Spurs, MUtd.

I’m just so fed up with it. It’s all such a waste of an opportunity. We have all waited so long. What is our plan?

We may well stay up - just - but we are totally reliant on about 5/ 6 quality players + we have an owner who is never likely to stop moving on coaches, hiring and firing, maybe even marching onto the pitch again. It doesn’t help.

It’s such madness. Why oh why can we not just have a plan, some stable, senior club management, and a constant approach.

Don’t even get me started on the bulk of the summer signings.

Am I enamoured by Dyche - no I am not.

But nothing will really change, until our whole approach changes. Everything else is noise.

09 Jan 2026 23:36:09
Good post pal
It's annoying isn't it
But we were never ready for Europe
List the two most influential players from last season and their goals and assists
Elanga and wood
The players bought in just don't get the pace of the premier, bakwa ndoye?
They both want to. play in their own time
Thise two will never hack the premier with that attitude
Dyche hasn't a clue tactically and is by passing the best midfielders we have had
Jesus has to fight a losing battle every game with those tactics
Premier survival is all that matters now
We'll be out of Europe soon and Dyche fate will be sealed along with stone and woan and cheerio ho to them
Re group in the summer with a new coach who won't be English.

10 Jan 2026 03:52:02
Good measured post Agen.

09 Jan 2026 22:19:50
Were you really looking forward to that DTP? I'm looking forward to a complete clear-cut of sub-standard rubbish before our next game. Considering a list of the players who have to go: McAtee and Morata top of the list for tomorrow morning. Without Gibbs-White and Callum Hudson-Odoi we have nothing to offer. Hopefully Aina up to speed very soon.

09 Jan 2026 23:22:14
I was to see our second team and evaluate them
They failed miserably just as they did last season at exeter and the rest
Thought mcmanaman summed it up perfectly rhr
Bakwa
Morato
Ndoye
Zinchenko
Mcatee
Awoniyi?
All need moving on they have had chances but blow it every time
Dyche needs moving on aswell as he's run our only striker jesus into the ground.